Draft Kings, Fan Duel and Fantasy Football--What do you think?

XLIX said:

The leagues (including our very own Bob Kraft) are heavily invested in the DFS's. The networks are heavily invested in the DFS's. The leagues and networks are partners. The DFS's are spending tons of money on network advertising during ball games.

If all that ain't an example of an incestuous business relationship, euphemistically speaking of course, then I don't know what is.

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An example would be if you could draw some sort of relationship that's improper, or could be imagined to be improper. As incest is considered improper, that's the euphemism.

Like a former Jets employee being the man who investigated accusations against the Jets.

All you've done is name relationships that have no logical connection to impropriety.

You might as well say Kraft makes cardboard boxes, Kraft has invested in Amazon stock, Kraft bought something from Amazon and had it delivered in a cardboard box. Therefore we need an investigation.

Investors in Draft Kings make money from people playing, and don't have any reason to want an employee possibly scamming to advantage himself. Loss of belief in fairness of the game loses them money, they rely on fairness (or the appearance of it) to make money.

The real connection is that the NFL makes money from their game being popular, and fantasy football is popular among people who watch the NFL, therefore the networks target commercials to the same audience. And the NFL hopes more fantasy players =more viewers, and the networks hope for the same. But there's nothing improper about that, and it hardly takes the FBI to figure it out.

Bobsyouruncle said:

An example would be if you could draw some sort of relationship that's improper, or could be imagined to be improper. As incest is considered improper, that's the euphemism.

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Really? You don't see any potential for impropriety in any of the above? Really??

Really??????

Keep in mind that this is a league that fights tooth and nail to keep gambling on games illegal because of all the potential for impropriety contained therein. But, at the same time, they wholeheartedly endorse and even invest in this alternative form of gambling.

Bobsyouruncle said:

You might as well say Kraft makes cardboard boxes, Kraft has invested in Amazon stock, Kraft bought something from Amazon and had it delivered in a cardboard box. Therefore we need an investigation.

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Yeah, that analogy is bankrupt on too many levels to address.

XLIX said:

Really? You don't see any potential for impropriety in any of the above? Really??

Really??????

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Really, but feel free to make an argument instead of just waiving your hands.

Keep in mind that this is a league that fights tooth and nail to keep gambling on games illegal because of all the potential for impropriety contained therein.

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FF is not gambling on games.

But, at the same time, they wholeheartedly endorse and even invest in this alternative form of gambling.
Yeah, that analogy is bankrupt on too many levels to address.

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I laid out logically why those relationships exist. Frankly any knowledge of basic marketing could put that together.

You apparently have some nefarious idea in your head why the networks, or owners, or anyone else would invest in FF besides the obvious proper reasons. I'm simply asking you to say why. What's your theory here?

Bobsyouruncle said:

Really, but feel free to make an argument instead of just waiving your hands.

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If you are too blind to see the shadiness in sports leagues and team owners being directly invested in a gambling operation involving their own sporting contests - and yes, DFS's are gambling - then we're just going to have to agree to disagree.

Furthermore, if you look at the facts I have clearly and logically laid out, and all you see is "waiving hands" then you are beyond help and far too closed minded to discuss this issue with.

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Nevada Orders Daily Fantasy Sports Sites to Shut Down

Source: Nevada Shuts Down Daily Fantasy Sports Sites
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No daily fantasy sports sites are licensed in Nevada, but the sites can apply for licenses.

A notice issued by the Gaming Control Board said the sites must stop offering their contests to Nevada residents immediately, and until they are granted a license. Operators face felony fines and 10 years in prison for running an illegal gambling site. The board said it worked with the state attorney general's office for several months to look into the sites' legality.

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gooooo....schefty!!!!

XLIX said:

If you are too blind to see the shadiness in sports leagues and team owners being directly invested in a gambling operation involving their own sporting contests - and yes, DFS's are gambling - then we're just going to have to agree to disagree.

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Yes, DFSes are gambling, and IMHO, yes, the NFL should not be accepting advertising nor should their owners be allowed to invest in DFSes. And you said it's "a gambling operation involving their own sporting contests" but that ends up being different than gambling on the outcome of the games. It's a thin excuse in my book, but it's the one the NFL is using to claim that it's different than going to the bookie down the street or the Las Vegas sports book.

The NFL is putting itself at great risk but it seems their greed just prevents them from seeing someone else rake in all the $millions that DFSes are generating. It has a great potential for ending ugly, IMHO.

XLIX said:

Furthermore, if you look at the facts I have clearly and logically laid out, and all you see is "waiving hands" then you are beyond help and far too closed minded to discuss this issue with.

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I think you two guys aren't as far apart as you think. Both of you seem to think something shady is going on. The real difference is that one thinks this shadiness warrants a FBI investigation, the other doesn't. From what I know the FBI usually doesn't get involved till they get evidence that a crime is being committed, and I don't think we'll see FBI involvement till then.