Montana on whether he suspects the Pats: "They always say if you ain’t cheating, you ain’t trying"

Soul_Survivor88 · Oct 15, 2015

http://itiswhatitis.weei.com/sports...ays-say-if-you-aint-cheating-you-aint-trying/

Hall of Fame quarterback Joe Montana joined the NFL Network’s “Around the NFL” on Thursday to touch on a number of different subjects, including the Patriots.

Montana was asked if he’s at all suspect of what the Patriots have done over the years and is it wrong to question what they have done?

“They always say, if you ain’t cheating, you ain’t trying, so they sure are trying hard,” he said with a laugh.

“Are they cheating or trying hard is the question?” the host asked.

“They could be both,” he joked.

“They have this thing called the rule book,” he added. “When you step outside the rule book, you’re fudging with it a little bit.”

Montana was asked if his 49ers teams did any cheating back when he played. He said everyone did what they could to gain an advantage to win.

“Like I said, if you ain’t cheating, you ain’t trying. Everybody does everything they can to possibly get a little bit of an edge,” Montana said. “Back then, it wasn’t illegal, but it was illegal — like our guys used to spray, and everybody did at the time, silicon on their jersey’s. The linemen, so that the defense couldn’t get a hold of them and then the defensive line did it so the offensive line … then if you did it too much they said, ‘No, no, go change your jersey’s.’ It’s just a game. Everybody wants to win so you do whatever you can to make it happen.”

BelichickFan · Oct 15, 2015

Someone's scared that TB12 is going to win #5.

PatriotsPimp136 · Oct 15, 2015

Yes. Montana's full of jealousy. Brady has surpassed him.

sevengables_2207 · Oct 15, 2015

Peeped this, and Montana seemed to be alluding to the fact that the great teams are always looking to "push the envelope", even his own 49ers teams in the 1980's... Maybe it's just me, but it came across like he actually considers it a positive thing...

Brady_Moss · Oct 15, 2015

Why is it that every time our Pats are in the mist of breaking history, there's always some retired player hating?? Like, wtf...just stfu and watch history be broken

PatsWSB47 · Oct 15, 2015

I wish he would have said every team tries. I wish reporter had asked if evey team tries.

RelocatedPatFan · Oct 15, 2015

They asked Montana about Brady possibly passing him in SB wins. Don't remember his exact answer but it was fair enough and kinda funny.

Something to the effect of "How many people (really) want to see their records broken" and "Not many of his records held for long".

fair catch fryar · Oct 15, 2015

PatriotsPimp136 said:
Yes. Montana's full of jealousy. Brady has surpassed him.

Yes he has. All discussions will center on Tom Brady like people used to talk about Joe Montana at one time.

oldrover · Oct 15, 2015

Hmmm... this could get...

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...sticky.

Soul_Survivor88 · Oct 15, 2015

sevengables_2207 said:
Peeped this, and Montana seemed to be alluding to the fact that the great teams are always looking to "push the envelope", even his own 49ers teams in the 1980's... Maybe it's just me, but it came across like he actually considers it a positive thing...

I agree. But it didn't sound like the appropriate thing to say, especially given what the team and the fans have been put through these last 9 months

Betterthanmost · Oct 15, 2015

PatsWSB47 said:
I wish he would have said every team tries. I wish reporter has asked if evey team tries.

He kinda said it in the read up.

RedSleevesPinkStripes · Oct 15, 2015

I heard this on the radio and it definitely didn't sound like respect or acting like all great teams "cheat". It sounded like a bitter jab at a franchise /player potentially surpassing he and his GOAT 9ers... I wonder how he feels about Rice's stickum use or Walsh's admitted and alleged tactics.. I guess that's all totally legit though.. Losing more respect for Montana every time he opens his skechers wearing mouth.. Ugh.

BelichickFan · Oct 15, 2015

sevengables_2207 said:
Peeped this, and Montana seemed to be alluding to the fact that the great teams are always looking to "push the envelope", even his own 49ers teams in the 1980's... Maybe it's just me, but it came across like he actually considers it a positive thing...

The full quote isn't as bad as it sounds like it could be. However, he's still saying the guy that has tied him - and may well pass him - in Championships is doing whatever, up to and including cheating, to win. If Montana were a true, secure, Champion he would simply say that the Patriots have been a great team, and Brady a great QB, the past 15 years. Period.

363839 · Oct 15, 2015

I haven't heard so much double talk since...well I don't know when.
Sure Joe..."Like I said, if you ain't cheating , you ain't trying."
No Joe, that is what you said the Patriots are always saying.

jah · Oct 15, 2015

Chill guys, he's not "hating" or "jealous", he's basically admitting his own dynasty cheated.

Rob0729 · Oct 15, 2015

Who cares? Jerry Rice cheated (Stickkum). Bill Walsh cheated (faked his radio communications didn't work so Parcells couldn't use his). Montana's titles are just as tainted as Brady's.

Soul_Survivor88 · Oct 15, 2015

Elijah said:
Chill guys, he's not "hating" or "jealous", he's basically admitting his own dynasty cheated.

.......while simultaneously accusing Belichick and Brady of doing the same

Montana should thank his lucky stars his team didn't play in the age of Twitter and the 24/hr news cycle.

TommyD4207 · Oct 15, 2015

Chiuba E. Obele said:
I agree. But it didn't sound like the appropriate thing to say, especially given what the team and the fans have been put through these last 9 months

Perhaps we're all a bit oversensitive to it, as well.

I don't think Montana was saying anything sinister. I mean, after all, his WRs were using stickum.

BelichickFan · Oct 15, 2015

TommyD4207 said:
I don't think Montana was saying anything sinister. I mean, after all, his WRs were using stickum.

But no-one talks or cares about it. If I'm guilty and no-one cares, that frees me up to point guilt at others and I get off scott free.

Deus Irae · Oct 15, 2015

Montana's been consistent, and mild, in his comments. This is no different, and it's no big deal.

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