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Myles Jack is only a junior Isn't he? I'd think he'd probably go back for his senior year - he's a lock for the top half of the first round if fully fit.

Yeah, I'd be very surprised if he comes out in 2016.
 
Myles Jack is only a junior Isn't he? I'd think he'd probably go back for his senior year - he's a lock for the top half of the first round if fully fit.

Yeah, I'd be very surprised if he comes out in 2016.

Normally I would think so, but having that $5mil insurance policy if he doesn't go in the first round due to injury could actually be an incentive to declare. Going back to school is always a risk and declaring might be the safe option. We all know how much things fluctuate during the draft process and every year there are at least a dozen guys at one point or another we all say "player x is a definite first round pick" and they fall.

Now Jack's injury happened early enough in the season that he will probably be healthy enough to work out pre-draft and might not fall at all. But if I'm in his position I declare regardless because the downside is still $5mil+ whatever his draft slot is + reaching free agency a year earlier in the NFL. If he ended up going early/mid 2nd he would probably make more money than being a top 10-15 pick anyway.
 
What's a good NFL comp for cardale jones?
 
Normally I would think so, but having that $5mil insurance policy if he doesn't go in the first round due to injury could actually be an incentive to declare. Going back to school is always a risk and declaring might be the safe option. We all know how much things fluctuate during the draft process and every year there are at least a dozen guys at one point or another we all say "player x is a definite first round pick" and they fall.

Now Jack's injury happened early enough in the season that he will probably be healthy enough to work out pre-draft and might not fall at all. But if I'm in his position I declare regardless because the downside is still $5mil+ whatever his draft slot is + reaching free agency a year earlier in the NFL. If he ended up going early/mid 2nd he would probably make more money than being a top 10-15 pick anyway.

Right now, Jack is my favourite prospect in the draft - I think he's at that Khalil Mack level of defensive talent. If he's there in the mid-second round, I'd be all over that as a trade up.
 
I think Myles Jack could fill a couple of those roles. I know its still unlikely and a long way off, but his injury could drop him out of the 1st round. And considering he has a $5mil insurance policy if he doesn't get drafted in the first round, it might be in his best interests to fall into the 2nd round.

In terms of RB, I have been quite vocal the past few years about not wanting to spend a high pick on any RB. The exception to that would be trying to set ourselves up to get a high pick in 2017 to draft Leonard Fournette, that kid is absolutely special and in my opinion the best RB prospect by far since Adrian Peterson.

Myles Jack is only a junior Isn't he? I'd think he'd probably go back for his senior year - he's a lock for the top half of the first round if fully fit.

Yeah, I'd be very surprised if he comes out in 2016.

Normally I would think so, but having that $5mil insurance policy if he doesn't go in the first round due to injury could actually be an incentive to declare. Going back to school is always a risk and declaring might be the safe option. We all know how much things fluctuate during the draft process and every year there are at least a dozen guys at one point or another we all say "player x is a definite first round pick" and they fall.

Now Jack's injury happened early enough in the season that he will probably be healthy enough to work out pre-draft and might not fall at all. But if I'm in his position I declare regardless because the downside is still $5mil+ whatever his draft slot is + reaching free agency a year earlier in the NFL. If he ended up going early/mid 2nd he would probably make more money than being a top 10-15 pick anyway.

I actually agree with you: If I'm Myles Jack, I definitely declare in 2016.

01 ~ I don't know how much of that $5,000,000 would be applied to Loss of Market Value, but it sure goes a long way towards eliminating any Incentive to stay in School and expose his body or his Market Value to Injury. And as his previous Market Value had already skyrocketed to the Top 10 before his Injury, thus presumably establishing insurable Value, I see little Advantage to be gained from remaining in School.

02 ~ The Recovery Year. One of my Pet Theories is that it usually takes Players 18 months, give or take, to fully recover their previous Levels of Excellence ~ if in fact they do so. That consequently usually produces what I call Recovery Years, wherein the Players play, but at a relatively mediocre level.

Mind you: Jack is a Freaky Freak, and a young one, so he may very well be back to 100% by next September. But it is a Risk, one that could produce an uninspiring Senior Campaign that causes his Stock to tumble to the 2nd or 3rd Round or even further. Of course: That cuts both ways, as the flip side of that coin would be his enduring that prospective Recovery Year as an NFL Rookie...

But even as a 1st Rounder, Growing Pains would be expected, and he'd very likely be 100% for the start of the 2017 Campaign, with the additional Benefit, of course, that he Got Paid after the 2016 Draft, most probably entirely from'is Rookie Contract, but prospectively supplemented by his Insurance Policy.

03 ~ All of which is to say: Considering the fact that his Injury is not considered serious or detrimental to his long term Health or Efficacy, I believe that he'll very likely be a 1st Rounder if he declares this Year, but actually faces more substantial Risk of his Market Value taking a Tumble if he stays. :eek:

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But do I believe that Jack himself will declare this coming Spring, flying in the face of Conventional Wisdom and Years of Historical Precedent?? Actually...quite possibly. :eek:

The fact that he actually took the stop of investing in that Policy in the first place tells me a great deal about Jack's capacity to think above and beyond Conventional Wisdom and Historical Precedent.

To think Off The Grid, if you will. :D

Indeed, the fact that he took that Step ~ as a Rookie!! ~ is, in my Opinion, the strongest Argument there is that he has the Wisdom, the Vision, and the Testicular Fortitude to make that next Bold Move.

Yep. Writing is an integral part of my Thinking Process, and while I'd already previously and instantaneously made up my own mind as to what I'd do, I must say, on further review, that I think you've got an excellent, excellent point, Brother Wilfork: All things considered, I'd say that it's a distinct Possibility.
 
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What's a good NFL comp for cardale jones?

Jamarcus Russell

Russel had a lot better college stats and two full years as a starter before he went to the NFL

You appear to've actually misunderstood your own question ~ that ain't easy!!
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You appear to've actually misunderstood your own question ~ that ain't easy!!
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I was saying that I dont know if Cardale Jones has shown he can be as good as Russel was, which is to say not at all.
 
Tony Pauline on Iowa CB Desmond King

Junior cornerback Desmond King of Iowa, a week three riser, picked off two passes and broke up two more to go along with nine tackles during the Hawkeyes victory over Wisconsin. In conversations the past week there’s a feeling from many King has first round potential if he enters the draft. At present time most believe King will likely stay in school. From a character point of view I’ve heard nothing but positives about him.

When I watched him, he was an outstanding tackler but I wondered about his athleticism. Not convinced he's a first rounder athletically. Good film though.

http://www.draftinsider.net/blog/?p=10859
 
Sorry for the distraction but I really wanted to share this:



Great to see Whitlock playing and being productive. One of my favorite "heart" prospects.
 
So Myles Jack has declared for the draft. Hold everything! If this guy falls because of his injury, which I doubt, he's a must draft. Jack is fantastic.
 
So Myles Jack has declared for the draft. Hold everything! If this guy falls because of his injury, which I doubt, he's a must draft. Jack is fantastic.

We're not going to be anywhere near the spot he is likely drafted. I do agree with you though, he is great. Imagine having him and Collins on the same team.
 
We're not going to be anywhere near the spot he is likely drafted. I do agree with you though, he is great. Imagine having him and Collins on the same team.

I realize it's a pipe dream unfortunately. Don't forget Hightower, I do think people underestimate what he brings to the table. Adding Jack to Collins/Hightower would really free up Collins as a pass rusher because Jack is the much better pass coverage guy.
 
I realize it's a pipe dream unfortunately. Don't forget Hightower, I do think people underestimate what he brings to the table. Adding Jack to Collins/Hightower would really free up Collins as a pass rusher because Jack is the much better pass coverage guy.
Not sure we can keep; Chandler Jones, Hightower and Jamie Collins. If we keep Collins and Chandler, Jack could be a Hightower replacement. In our 4-2-5. I'm guessing Mayo is gone after this year. Hightower will play under a tender next year. Then, we'll see if we can keep him.
 
Not sure we can keep; Chandler Jones, Hightower and Jamie Collins. If we keep Collins and Chandler, Jack could be a Hightower replacement. In our 4-2-5. I'm guessing Mayo is gone after this year. Hightower will play under a tender next year. Then, we'll see if we can keep him.

I'd rather we keep Hightower than Chandler Jones. Part of me thinks that Hightower is the glue that enables the front 7 to do what it does. Not sure Collins is the player he is without Hightower.
 
Not sure who we will get but not trying to get overly excited about top talents. It is going to be interesting to see how BB drafts as this year we don't have any other 1st round picks.

I am thinking CB, OT (a backup better than Cannon be nice and it is good to get your future starter a year early). Vollmer's age and Solder's short contract make me wonder about 2017.
 
Jayron Kearse. 6'5", 220lbs but only a Junior. Plays a Chancellor type role.



Nephew of Jevon.
 
Jayron Kearse. 6'5", 220lbs but only a Junior. Plays a Chancellor type role.



Nephew of Jevon.


Thanks. First half of that video looked to be more opportunistic plays (right place at the right time), but the last minute or so really impressed me. Especially that last play of staying back, letting the runner come to him, and then immediately wrapping him up for no extra yards.

If he can add another 5 to 10 pounds while remaining athletic, this is a player that might be able to go up against Gronk and give him fits in all aspects of play. A complete TE like Gronk (and Bavaro before him) is the holy grail of offense. I've always felt that a SS who has size, quickness, speed, and strength to block/tackle in both the run game and passing game is the holy grail of defense. Kearse might have the raw tools there; interested in seeing how he progresses as time goes on.
 


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