MNF: Detroit Lions at Seattle Seahawks - preview and prediction

Joey007 · Oct 6, 2015

jmt57 said:
Is it me, or is Ray Lewis completely losing his ability to communicate in a remotely meaningful manner ever since the concept that 'illegal batting' was brought up tonight?

He sounds like Shannon Sharpe

Joey007 · Oct 6, 2015

SVN said:
covering their butt now...

Hey they've made a living on it, no?

Joker · Oct 6, 2015

holky krist!!!! now you KNOW why we've been screwed by these striped scumbags!!! There are rules..SOMETIMES...but rules are subject to relativity now..."he was sneaky...NOT OVERT!! You LOSE!!!"

GFY NFL...Congress, tear this shythole league up...ORGANIZED CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY ...every week or every season.Preposterous..."relative rules!!"..."not overt!!"...jeezus krist, they think we're all mongoloids

Wheelman · Oct 6, 2015

Joker said:
not overt???????????????????????????????

WAT?????????????????????????

It's clear he wasn't trying to grab the ball so why else is he touching the ball if not to bat it out.

The Brandon Five · Oct 6, 2015

jmt57 said:
Terrible rule.

What the NFL is saying is if Kam Chancellor pretends to attempt to recover the ball and it goes out of the end zone then that is okay, his team wins; but if he is truthful with his actions and makes a heads-up play by having situational awareness and bats it out, then that is a game-changing penalty that hypothetically costs his team the game?

Does that make any sense at all?

I think it was Wright who batted the ball out the endzone. Chancellor's act of stripping the ball from the ballcarrier is not in question.

jmt57 · Oct 6, 2015

TBR said:
Wow. Aside from the blown call, I've always HATED the touchback rule where a team (ex. Seattle) is given possession of the football after the offense (ex. Detroit) fumbles out the back of the end-zone. Sure it's a nice play to force the fumble, but if the team never actually gains possession - why give it to them?

Especially since if that fumble occurs anywhere else on the field and it goes out of bounds on the SIDELINE, the offense still gets to keep the ball. (as they should)

Yeah, I don't disagree.

There was a thread on that topic recently. In my opinion a good compromise is to either make it a 15-yard penalty against the offense from the spot of the fumble, or perhaps give it back to the offense with the same down at the twenty.

SVN · Oct 6, 2015

Matt Chatham ‏@chatham58 2m2 minutes ago Bellingham, MA
Not overt? Gotta be kidding. Was he "generally aware" he was batting it? Mind-reading? The NFL loves to play Ms Cleo.

raduray · Oct 6, 2015

jmt57 said:
Terrible rule.

What the NFL is saying is if Kam Chancellor pretends to attempt to recover the ball and it goes out of the end zone then that is okay, his team wins; but if he is truthful with his actions and makes a heads-up play by having situational awareness and bats it out, then that is a game-changing penalty that hypothetically costs his team the game?

Does that make any sense at all?

Pete Carroll in his news conference admitted the ball was batted out intentionally. Blandino will be pleased.

The Brandon Five · Oct 6, 2015

raduray said:
Pete Carroll in his news conference admitted the ball was batted out intentionally. Blandino will be pleased.

Interesting. Carroll sending a message to his team that they deserved to lose?

randomk1 · Oct 6, 2015

Megatron is so overrated.

raduray · Oct 6, 2015

The Brandon Five said:
Interesting. Carroll sending a message to his team that they deserved to lose?

Well, the ball was more likely than not going out of bounds anyway

varjao · Oct 6, 2015

Wilson getting exposed big time without the beast.

TB_Helmet · Oct 6, 2015

The Brandon Five · Oct 6, 2015

TB_Helmet said:
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That's right! I almost forgot, anytime a rule is broken that constitutes "cheating". We should try to find out how long the scheme to cheat like this has been in place.

Bartmac36 · Oct 6, 2015

randomk1 said:
Megatron is so overrated.

I think he was great for a stretch of 3-4 seasons, but he was never on the same level of guys like Randy Moss or Jerry Rice IMO.

I think Julio Jones is closer to those guys now than Megatron was. I think the hype factor was always slightly too generous to him and his reputation.

Koma · Oct 6, 2015

I'm a little unclear on why this play wasn't reviewable. All turnovers are automatically reviewed. Detroit had possession, fumbled, the ball ends up going out the back of the end zone, it's ruled a touchback and Seattle ball. It's not the traditional change of possession via INT or fumble recovery, but it's still a turnover, so there should be a review of the play.

If there was a review, the batting of the ball should be considered. I believe it was 3 years ago that Gronkowski caught a short pass for a TD. The play was reviewed and it was determined that Gronkowski stepped out of bounds while trying to get open and then caught the pass. Instead of getting the TD, the Patriots ended up being penalized for illegal touching. Tonight isn't the exact same situation, but if the play was reviewed, the officials should have seen the illegal batting by Seattle, called the penalty and proceeded from there.

Dr Pain · Oct 6, 2015

Koma said:
I'm a little unclear on why this play wasn't reviewable. All turnovers are automatically reviewed. Detroit had possession, fumbled, the ball ends up going out the back of the end zone, it's ruled a touchback and Seattle ball. It's not the traditional change of possession via INT or fumble recovery, but it's still a turnover, so there should be a review of the play.

If there was a review, the batting of the ball should be considered. I believe it was 3 years ago that Gronkowski caught a short pass for a TD. The play was reviewed and it was determined that Gronkowski stepped out of bounds while trying to get open and then caught the pass. Instead of getting the TD, the Patriots ended up being penalized for illegal touching. Tonight isn't the exact same situation, but if the play was reviewed, the officials should have seen the illegal batting by Seattle, called the penalty and proceeded from there.

Penalties are not reviewable. It was a fumble.

SVN · Oct 6, 2015

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...-dolphins-patriots-game-comes-under-scrutiny/

TBR · Oct 6, 2015

SVN said:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...-dolphins-patriots-game-comes-under-scrutiny/

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-...270415/Week-8-Dolphins-vs-Patriots-highlights

2:40 mark of the video in case anyone wants to see

PatriotsPimp136 · Oct 6, 2015

Ga

randomk1 said:
Megatron is so overrated.

He would be a beast in this offense if he had a guy like brady

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