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I think their relationship might be under-rated, from the standpoint of them being such an effective duo together. During the 16 years Brady has been in the league, McDaniels has been on the coaching staff for nine of them. And they’ve seen a lot of defenses together — essentially through the same pair of eyes.

McDaniels during Coaching Staff Presser:
“(I see it) very much the same (as Brady does). We’ve spent a lot of time together. It’s a relationship when you’re talking about a quarterback and a play-caller or a quarterback coach and the quarterback. You really want to be in harmony by the time you get to kickoff on everything that could come up in the game.

“For us, we’ve had a lot of experience together, and going through the course of many years, we’ve gained some wisdom just in terms of how to work with each other. Our communication, our relationship, it’s been as good as it’s been since we’ve started to work together.”

Brady on the DC show: “All through the week we’re talking about the plays and the plan and the situations and then as we get into late Saturday night when the game plan finally really comes together, and then Sunday morning when we talk, and when we get into the game on Sunday, we’re able to make adjustments so quickly.”

Brady on Patriots All Access w/ Scott Zolak: "Yeah. Phone calls at like 5:45 in the morning. He's like the only person that would call me and I would call him at 5:45 and know that we're going to answer so I think we're just . . . He is a perfectionist to the Nth degree. He wants to do the very best he can every single day and every game. Nobody's better than him. He's just an incredible coach. We've been together so long, a lot of times we see things the same way. He has really high expectations for me. I like that he pushes me. It gets the most out of our entire offense. He doesn't back down from anything. He's as aggressive now as he's ever been, which I love. We got a good thing going."
 
I love Josh. Of all the post game quotes, the one I'll never forget is Brady saying to Josh : "Oh my God, Josh, we did it".

(followed closely by TB12 to Butler : "Malcolm, are you f*cking kidding me ?")
 
Brady is good with or without McDaniels. After Denver and St Louis McDaniels proved himself to be mediocre.

I'm sure Brady would disagree with your assessment... to be honest, his opinion of Josh is the only one that matters :p
 
I'm sure Brady would disagree with your assessment... to be honest, his opinion of Josh is the only one that matters :p

He might disagree because he likes McDaniels but his performance and the offense when Mcd was gone was not impacted one bit.
 
I never got the McDaniels hate. All you had to do is watch some of the games yesterday and we should be thanking the gods that we have McDaniels and not some of the morons out there.
 
Personally, I loved Weiss' offense better. Sure different era....blah blah blah....Charlie kept D's off balance and made SB champions out of a neophyte QB, discarded RB (Smith), and physically unimpressive WRs. McDaniels has an All World WR , TE, and QB at his disposal for much of his tenure.
 
Brady is good with or without McDaniels. After Denver and St Louis McDaniels proved himself to be mediocre.

The exact same argument can be made regarding BB.
 
Anyone wish to quote NEM on this topic? :p
 
Personally, I loved Weiss' offense better. Sure different era....blah blah blah....Charlie kept D's off balance and made SB champions out of a neophyte QB, discarded RB (Smith), and physically unimpressive WRs. McDaniels has an All World WR , TE, and QB at his disposal for much of his tenure.

Josh was on Charlie's staff in 2004 and was on Romeo's staff in 2001 and 2003.
 
No it can't, he was DC on two Super Bowl winning teams.
And he won a playoff game with the Browns. THAT is an accomplishment, it's the only playoff win the Browns have since 1989. In fact, it's the only playoff game they've had since 1989, I think, other then the following week when they lost.
 
He might disagree because he likes McDaniels but his performance and the offense when Mcd was gone was not impacted one bit.

I'd add that former Patriots OCs have had a lot of other HC and OC jobs around the league, without a lot of great results. I'm thinking of Josh McD, Charlie Weis, Brian Daboll and BoB. Unless I'm forgetting something, that's 2 HC gigs and 5 OC ones, without a single high-powered offense in the mix.
 
I'd add that former Patriots OCs have had a lot of other HC and OC jobs around the league, without a lot of great results. I'm thinking of Josh McD, Charlie Weis, Brian Daboll and BoB. Unless I'm forgetting something, that's 2 HC gigs and 5 OC ones, without a single high-powered offense in the mix.

Great examples of the importance of:

Top level QB (All)
Keeping early stage starting QBs from getting their asses beat (Chiefs/Weiss)
 
And Bill had LT on his defenses in New York. Still don't see the point.

You're 0-2. BB had success outside of the Patriot orginization, namely being the DC for two SB champs. JMD has not - therefore it is not the same exact argument as another poster claimed. I quoted the whole discussion for you and you still can't grasp what I was responding to.
 
And Bill had LT on his defenses in New York. Still don't see the point.


He doesn't have one. He's trying to split a hair that has no business being split.
 
You're 0-2. BB had success outside of the Patriot orginization, namely being the DC for two SB champs. JMD has not - therefore it is not the same exact argument as another poster claimed. I quoted the whole discussion for you and you still can't grasp what I was responding to.

Lmao how is it not?

Both were elite coordinators under hall of fame head coaches. Bill won two Super Bowls while being a D Coordinator and Josh won a Super Bowl and was coordinator for the greatest offense ever.

Both played with a top 2 offensive/defensive player ever.

Both's first head coaching stints were mediocre.

Both went back to being elite coordinators.

The original argument wasn't about who had success outside of the pats organization.
 
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