Deflategate karma rages on

Jackson 2 · Oct 3, 2015

ReverendMaynard said:
Meh.

If there was anything to framegate karma, it would be happening to Kensil, Vincent, Pash, Goodell, Kraft, Mara, Jones, etc. From all outward signs, all of those guys have skated through with hardly a scratch. Most are in a stronger position today because of their corruption than they were before.

Patience, mi amigo, patience. They'll get theirs eventually. And while agree with you about the others, I think Kraft has been significantly wounded on a number of fronts: with his fellow owners, with his commissioner, in terms of his overall influence in the league and, perhaps most importantly, with his fan base.

ReverendMaynard · Oct 3, 2015

Jackson 2 said:
Patience, mi amigo, patience. They'll get theirs eventually. And while agree with you about the others, I think Kraft has been significantly wounded on a number of fronts: with his fellow owners, with his commissioner, in terms of his overall influence in the league and, perhaps most importantly, with his fan base.

IMO, Kraft has shown that the fanbase is the least of his priorities, so no big loss to him there. I'm also of the opinion that he never had what everyone thought he had on those other fronts, so he didn't really lose anything there either. From the outside it looks like the other owners just looked at him as a waterboy/team manager type. He did all the dirty work, but they did't respect him for it. They were just willing to put up with him as long as he did the work they didn't want to bother with. The second he needed something from them, they showed what they truly thought of him.

aluminum seats · Oct 3, 2015

No love for Smith but we won't celebrate injuries of course.

But he could play--didn't Romo have broken bones in his back too?

Pats2000 · Oct 3, 2015

Bella*chick said:
Wait and see mode? 4 broken bones in his back? I wonder which ones? I can't think of any bone in your back where you'd be like, eh, we'll just wait and see.

Probably the rib bones judging from where he got speared

Halifax_Pats_Fan · Oct 3, 2015

KontradictioN said:
Four broken bones in his back should signal the end to a brilliant career as well as the Ravens' season.

As long as they can get a widout that can run 50 yards downfield, turn around and run into a corner then they got a shot...#ThrowItUpJoe

Canuck · Oct 3, 2015

dannydyn said:
@CHICKatCSN's Tweet:

Per team source Ravens WR Steve Smith Sr. has 4 broken bones in his back. They will put him in wait & see mode (day 2 day) #ravenstalk cont

The deflategate curse strikes again.

The Boston Patriot · Oct 3, 2015

So, while driving around I was giving this topic some thought and it occurred to me that the NFL might be putting itself in a particularly bad situation (I could only hope - not that SS is injured but that the NFL dies). Now that they have taken on the role of in-game declaration of who or who isn't able to play regardless of the player's and/or team's decision, if SS somehow gets damaged beyond repair and the NFL hasn't done anything to prevent either the Balt Pukes or SS from playing does that make them party to an outstanding personal injury lawsuit of epic proportions? I could only pray that there decision to intervene and take responsibility for the safety of players somehow gets hammered up the NFL's and Goddell's rectal cavity.

goheels22002 · Oct 3, 2015

BoTown said:
Volume stats are tricky. For example, Bledsoe and Testaverde are 9th and 10th, respectively, all-time in passing yards, more than Montana and Kelly. But Bledsoe and Testaverde will never be in Canton.

I wouldn't be surprised if Andre Johnson didn't get in, he has the volume, but name one memorable catch in his career. It's a problem with being stuck in Houston the whole time but you see what I mean. Henry Ellard didn't get in and he has more career receiving yards than both Johnson and Smith.

Smith is a terrific wide receiver but I stop short of declaring him a HOFer, I think that gets thrown around too casually.

Well, Steve Smith is a 5 time pro-bowler, two-time first team all-pro, played in the Super (38 against Pats), scored a TD in the Super Bowl, and was a mainstay of two teams that went to the AFC Championship game (Ratbirds and Panthers.) He's a significant player in this era. If he gets to 14,000 yards, he'll get in. Maybe not a 1st ballot guy, but certainly worthy.

I think he needs to get his temper under control. He could screw up his legacy with some off-the-rails behavior.

1960Pats · Oct 3, 2015

RayClay said:
Fractured ribs are painful, but not as scary as what was original misreported.

Gloating about injuries is sick, could we just not do it?

Where did you see gloating? I haven't seen any.

Lansdowne · Oct 3, 2015

goheels22002 said:
Well, Steve Smith is a 5 time pro-bowler, two-time first team all-pro, played in the Super (38 against Pats), scored a TD in the Super Bowl, and was a mainstay of two teams that went to the AFC Championship game (Ratbirds and Panthers.) He's a significant player in this era. If he gets to 14,000 yards, he'll get in. Maybe not a 1st ballot guy, but certainly worthy.

I think he needs to get his temper under control. He could screw up his legacy with some off-the-rails behavior.

Nitpicking but two things wrong with the bolded:

- Panthers aren't an AFC team

- Ravens didn't get to AFCCG with Smith, last year was his first season and they went down against the Pats in the divisional round

But I see your point about Smith. He's hot-headed, but he's a gamer for sure and there are worse players than him that are in the HOF, so it's possible.

Tony2046 · Oct 3, 2015

OT: Mort tried to tweet again and was wrong again and was killed on twitter again.

Chris MortensenVerified account‏@mortreport
Ravens have been told @89SteveSmith back injury is non-surgical, he is week to week & "will play sooner than later."

Peter Dawe ‏@peterdawe 6h6 hours ago
@mortreport 11 out of 12 doctors agree #ESPNLies #firemort

Mr Grant Jones ‏@GR13579Z 5h5 hours ago
@mortreport wow this tweet is 10 minutes after official Ravens tweet - you are the BEST reporter on the planet earth !!!! Thank you

Sam Berger ‏@BostonStrong04 6h6 hours ago
@mortreport no one cares what you say you LIAR!!!!!!!!!! You have ZERO credibility. Find ANOTHER job. Stand up and admit ur wrong. #beaman

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goheels22002 · Oct 3, 2015

goheels22002 said:
Well, Steve Smith is a 5 time pro-bowler, two-time first team all-pro, played in the Super (38 against Pats), scored a TD in the Super Bowl, and was a mainstay of two teams that went to the playoffs and got leads that the Patriots had to overcome in dramatic fashion (Ratbirds and Panthers.) He's a significant player in this era. If he gets to 14,000 yards, he'll get in. Maybe not a 1st ballot guy, but certainly worthy.

I think he needs to get his temper under control. He could screw up his legacy with some off-the-rails behavior.

flasox27 · Oct 3, 2015

ReverendMaynard said:
IMO, Kraft has shown that the fanbase is the least of his priorities, so no big loss to him there. I'm also of the opinion that he never had what everyone thought he had on those other fronts, so he didn't really lose anything there either. From the outside it looks like the other owners just looked at him as a waterboy/team manager type. He did all the dirty work, but they did't respect him for it. They were just willing to put up with him as long as he did the work they didn't want to bother with. The second he needed something from them, they showed what they truly thought of him.

If his actions since 2007 weren't detrimental to the team I would almost feel sorry for how Kraft was duped by the POS commissioner and his backstabbing fellow owners. I can see him being convinced in 2007 to shut up and take the unprecedented punishment by Mara and Rooney for the good of the commissioner's authority and the Shield as they proceeded to destroy the exculpatory evidence. He must have been convinced that the influence he rightfully had in financial matters would translate to competitive matters. In fact he had zero influence unlike supposed nonentities like Woody Johnson and Bisciotti have the ear of the POS that Kraft vociferously protected when it was obvious to the world that he lied. The last fiasco speaks for itself with draft choices surrendered based on a total fabrication.

goheels22002 · Oct 3, 2015

BoTown said:
Nitpicking but two things wrong with the bolded:

- Panthers aren't an AFC team
- Ravens didn't get to AFCCG with Smith, last year was his first season and they went down against the Pats in the divisional round

But I see your point about Smith. He's hot-headed, but he's a gamer for sure and there are worse players than him that are in the HOF, so it's possible.

Thank you. I stand corrected and fixed the errors. Nothing is more valuable than a good editor.

Suffice it to say that Steve Smith was on two teams that got leads in the 4th quarter in the playoffs against the Patriots but left too much time on the clock for Tom Brady.

BelichickFan · Oct 5, 2015

OK, Jerry's on the schedule. Remember Jerry, pushing for the suspension to be upheld and he'd have Romo vs. Garropola ? Karma's a b!tch, Jerry, and karma says it's Brady vs. Weeden (or Cassel).

Gronkowski123 · Oct 5, 2015

Tony2046 said:
OT: Mort tried to tweet again and was wrong again and was killed on twitter again.

Chris MortensenVerified account‏@mortreport
Ravens have been told @89SteveSmith back injury is non-surgical, he is week to week & "will play sooner than later."

Peter Dawe ‏@peterdawe 6h6 hours ago
@mortreport 11 out of 12 doctors agree #ESPNLies #firemort

Mr Grant Jones ‏@GR13579Z 5h5 hours ago
@mortreport wow this tweet is 10 minutes after official Ravens tweet - you are the BEST reporter on the planet earth !!!! Thank you

Sam Berger ‏@BostonStrong04 6h6 hours ago
@mortreport no one cares what you say you LIAR!!!!!!!!!! You have ZERO credibility. Find ANOTHER job. Stand up and admit ur wrong. #beaman

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mort's twitter feed is gold. anytime he posts something, i check the responses and laugh.

A Defiant Goose · Oct 5, 2015

I like Steve Smith, but I hate the Ravens more than I like Steve Smith. Anything that f*cks the Ravens is acceptable by me.

PatsWSB47 · Oct 5, 2015

Gronkowski123 said:
mort's twitter feed is gold. anytime he posts something, i check the responses and laugh.

Yeah, he's been absolutely spot on since he reported that Garapalo would replace Brady "sooner than later"

Mack Herron · Oct 5, 2015

Bruce Allen ‏@bruceallen 6m6 minutes ago

Bruce Allen Retweeted Tim Reynolds

Dolphins owner yet another on the list getting payback for #DeflategateKarma https://twitter.com/ByTimReynolds/status/626768397183942656…

Bruce Allen added,

Tim Reynolds @ByTimReynolds
Stephen Ross on Deflategate: "I have a lot of confidence in Roger. ... I have a lot of faith in what the league ruled."

Deflategate karma rages on

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