Gary Myers goes after Goodell on Deflategate...for the umpteenth time...

It doesn't need to be the Patriots, New England high school and college teams could do it now if they wanted to. If the Patriots want they could ask to do it when Gillete hosts the Massachusetts high school football championships.

the case of deflated footballs could reach the Supreme Court of the United States of America.

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And people thought Brady being friends with Donald Trump was stupid.

DaBronxPats14 said:

Myers just released his book Brady vs Manning and I think he picks Brady and says TB is GOAT. What's this world coming to, but then again Myers changes quicker than Model on a run way.

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Yeah, I see an agenda behind all these pro-Patriot articles by this dude. He used to kill the Pats and Bill constantly and now a sudden turnaround?

I don't trust it any more so than 10-inch heels on rail-thin models

Volin and Shauughnessy are trolls. Ignore them.

The key question is this: Why did the NFL frame Brady by claiming that Brady said he never discussed deflated-footballs with Jasztremski?

upstater1 said:

The key question is this: Why did the NFL frame Brady by claiming that Brady said he never discussed deflated-footballs with Jasztremski?

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Bill Belichick. Next question?

condon84 said:

Yeah, I see an agenda behind all these pro-Patriot articles by this dude. He used to kill the Pats and Bill constantly and now a sudden turnaround?

I don't trust it any more so than 10-inch heels on rail-thin models

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lol Exactly!

AzorianPats said:

If the results show that across the league the ball loses air pressure, as we all expect it too, thats when i think the league should overturn the suspension, and hand us our draft picks back.

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Their procedure for testing the footballs is set up so that you will not see a difference in air pressure.

They are bringing the footballs back into the locker room and I am sure that they will allow those footballs to re-acclimate to the locker room before testing which will simply show that the footballs were not tampered with. It will also allow idiots across the nation to say "see those footballs didn't lose any pressure".
Kraft needs to set up a displayed football attached to a gauge with a digital read out which will be displayed throughout the game on near the score board.

PatsFanSince74 said:

Once again, a New York Columnist asks the questions that our local mediots seem to want to avoid.

Why aren't Volin and Shaughnessy writing stuff like this? I've come to the conclusion that they are either too insecure or too blind to read the handwriting on the wall and speak the truth. Are they so insecure that they are afraid of being accused of being "provincial New Englanders" or something like that? Or do they truly bear animosity towards the teams they are supposed to be covering?.

I've quoted the relevant material from Myers' article below (my emphasis in bold), but I've also attached the link at the bottom both for copyright reasons as well as because Myers raises a few other interesting points:

"ROGER SPEAKS

"Roger Goodell will address the media for the first time since his four-game suspension of Brady was overturned by U.S. District Court Judge Richard Berman last month at the conclusion of Wednesday’s meeting. The NFL is appealing, but even if Brady loses, it would not impact the 2015 season or playoffs and he would likely appeal. Conceivably and incredibly, the case of deflated footballs could reach the Supreme Court of the United States of America.

"In the meantime, Goodell needs to answer a few questions:

"-Does he think he got his money’s worth out of Ted Wells’ $3 million 100-day investigation that produced a 243-page report filled only with circumstantial evidence?

"-Does the NFL plan to release the results when it randomly tests footballs this season? And what happens if the footballs at a December game in Foxborough lose air pressure at the same rate they did in the Colts-Patriots AFC title game?

"-Does he plan to attend a game at Gillette Stadium this season? "


http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/sunday-morning-qb-welker-giants-catch-article-1.2384344

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Better question: does he plan to attend the SB celebration if it will feature TB as MVP with all remaining fans in the stadium booing him at that top of their lungs in front of a TV audience bigger than just about every broadcast in TV history?

Seriously, if this comes to fruition this agnostic, me, will go to his grave believing the supernatural power of karma does exist on some level.

TheBostonStraggler said:

Better question: does he plan to attend the SB celebration if it will feature TB as MVP with all remaining fans in the stadium booing him at that top of their lungs in front of a TV audience bigger than just about every broadcast in TV history?

Seriously, if this comes to fruition this agnostic, me, will go to his grave believing the supernatural power of karma does exist on some level.

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I've been to one Super Bowl and I'm not a disrespectful fan. However, if the Patriots won the Super Bowl, and I attended, I would boo Roger Goodell and not stop booing until he stopped trying to speak.

upstater1 said:

The key question is this: Why did the NFL frame Brady by claiming that Brady said he never discussed deflated-footballs with Jasztremski?

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Let us not forget that in 2011, Brady signed his name at the top of the list in a lawsuit to decertify the NFLPA. That led to the lockout, but more importantly it enabled individual players to file lawsuits against the NFL. Somebody correct me if I am wrong, but if memory serves me then that enabled individual retired players to sue the NFL over concussion-related injuries, rather than having to accept the NFL's previous paltry settlement on a class-action lawsuit based on those injuries.

Not to be a conspiracy theorist, but this may be the real reason why the NFL went after Brady rather than the fact that 345 Park Ave is filled with former Jets, or that the Colts and Ravens were pissed off that the Pats kept beating them.

MagicMarker said:

I've been to one Super Bowl and I'm not a disrespectful fan. However, if the Patriots won the Super Bowl, and I attended, I would boo Roger Goodell and not stop booing until he stopped trying to speak.

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I tell ya brother, I doubt you could count on one hand the moderate to diehard Patriot fans who don't get a visceral feeling of anger and disgust regarding Goodell. If Goodell walks out in front of 3000 of these Patriot fans that remain for the SB trophy ceremony, I doubt more than 50 won't give it to Goodell at the top of their lungs. And here is the kicker, Goodell already has been booed fairly loudly by non Patriot fans at other venues (at drafts, at a SB announcement ceremony in Arizona). I suspect we can count on hundreds if not thousands more to join in on booing him once it gets started.
Bottom line: any podium based statements by Goodell at the post Patriot victory SB is going to go out over the airwaves with as loud a chorus of boos as Goodell has ever had. It won't drown him out like a full stadium would but everyone listening across the country and even parts of the world will get the point.

Of all the things that could happen to Goodell short of being fired, this might be the most effective justice there is. Go watch the video of him getting booed at the SB award ceremony in Arizona. The reporter afterward asks him about this cold reception he received at the podium. You could tell it bothered him while he ignores the reporter's question and says 'it's been such an incredibly warm welcome here'.
Side note: I hate to be the kind of person who wishes this kind of thing on someone. But the guy deserves it...

jmt57 said:

Let us not forget that in 2011, Brady signed his name at the top of the list in a lawsuit to decertify the NFLPA. That led to the lockout, but more importantly it enabled individual players to file lawsuits against the NFL. Somebody correct me if I am wrong, but if memory serves me then that enabled individual retired players to sue the NFL over concussion-related injuries, rather than having to accept the NFL's previous paltry settlement on a class-action lawsuit based on those injuries.

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That's not quite right.

First, no lawsuit is needed to decertify the union. The union members simply need to vote to decertify.

Second, players always can file lawsuits against the NFL. What decertification does is remove the CBA-related antitrust exemptions, enabling players to file antitrust lawsuits. Aside from antitrust actions it wouldn't give them more things to sue over than they had before decertification.

Third, the 2011 Brady v. NFL lawsuit was in fact an antitrust lawsuit filed hours after the union voted to decertify:

NFL.com said:

Star quarterbacks Tom Brady of the New England Patriots, Peyton Manning of the Indianapolis Coltsand Drew Brees of the New Orleans Saints were among 10 players who sued the NFL in federal court Friday in Minneapolis, accusing the league of conspiracy and anticompetitive practices that date back years.

Their lawsuit asked the court to prevent a lockout, which the league imposed at midnight ET Friday and confirmed in a statement Saturday morning.

Less than two hours after the players' union decertified, clearing the way for antitrust lawsuits, the players filed their 52-page claim and supporting documents in U.S. District Court. They asked the court for class-action status.

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Third, they recertified the union as part of (or before) the CBA was agreed to, so all those CBA-related antitrust exemptions are back in place and have been for at least 4 years.

Fourth, I don't believe any of this would have any effect on what retired players could/could not sue over.

Fifth, I was under the (perhaps mistaken) impression that Brady was listed in the case caption because he came alphabetically first in the set of all the plaintiffs to that specific lawsuit. There were only 10 players who sued (see above), though they were seeking class-action status.

Side note: I hate to be the kind of person who wishes this kind of thing on someone. But the guy deserves it...

DO NOT APOLOGIZE!!!!

Goodell is a rotten phucking scumbag. A piece of vile excrement that sorely needs a flushing. He is such a coward, such a back stabbing little rich kid punk azzole that I find his continued existence a gigantic mystery.Why??? Why is he still allowed to steal OUR precious oxygen?

DaBronxPats14 said:

Myers changes quicker than Model on a run way.

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I can live with this as long as he doesn't go topless.

AzorianPats said:

If the results show that across the league the ball loses air pressure, as we all expect it too, thats when i think the league should overturn the suspension, and hand us our draft picks back.

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Darn, there used to be a smilie for "When Pigs Fly," but it's no longer available . Appropriate in this case.
Hey, Mods, where is that smilie?

condon84 said:

Yeah, I see an agenda behind all these pro-Patriot articles by this dude. He used to kill the Pats and Bill constantly and now a sudden turnaround?

I don't trust it any more so than 10-inch heels on rail-thin models

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I read Myers every day. He's never taken back a word that he said about the Patriots and Spygate in the past and he makes it clear that he never will. But, on this subject, he has been on Goodell's case since the summer.

BigPeteG said:

The balls will never lose as much pressure as the pats ball supposedly did..because they used two different gauges that were calibrated differently. Goodell will just say see - they didn't lose as much as the Wells report said they did...

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I don't know if true and fair results this year could exonerate the Pats because we will be stuck with the same premise that we already have. The 2 gauges will come into play but not in the same way as you think, I think. At half time of AFCCG, you had lower and higher results from the 2 gauges. The question is which gauge was used before the game. If the gauge with the higher results was used, then we're all good.

The results from this year could show before game numbers and after game numbers. The difference could easily replicate the difference of 12.5 PSI and the higher half time results from the AFCCG. Unfortunately, this doesn't answer the question of which gauge was used before the game.

It's possible that this year's results could clarify in the public's mind that if that one gauge was used then nothing happened, but like most here, I don't think they would ever release results that could do that.