NFL and Steelers respond to Patriots fans: "Roethlisberger didn't have a cell phone on the sideline"

Reckedtrek · Oct 3, 2015

"So, what if he was holding a phone? It's not that big of a deal, really. I mean, it's not like he raped someone."
-R. Goodell

PatriotsReign · Oct 3, 2015

lillloyd said:
*spits tobacc-y juice into nearby can*

Not that there's anything wrong with that!

IcyPatriot · Oct 3, 2015

flasox27 · Oct 4, 2015

IcyPatriot said:

Looks like a wristband to me. LOL

lurker1965 · Oct 4, 2015

Jackson 2 said: ↑
"What I want is for another player and team to be unjustly and nationally castigated, screwed and embarrassed. I want another fan base to have to endure undeserved scorn, hatred, ridicule and humiliation. I want to see the NFL Network and ESPN willingly libel, slander and f### another franchise. I want another team to unjustly lose first and fourth round draft picks and $1M. That's a start..."

strngplyr said:
Well we should all be happy that you're not in a position of importance.

What happened to our team, twice, was atrocious, and wishing it on someone else doesn't make it OK that it happened to us, it just makes the league wrong, again.

Someone else getting ****ed by the media and league won't restore our image, so I'm guessing you just want others to suffer for the sake of suffering?

No, 2 wrongs do not make a right. It does make Jackson 2 human, however.

flasox27 · Oct 4, 2015

Just remember the "punishment" the Jets got for proven tampering with Revis and now the obvious coverup of this violation as opposed to the sham violation and punishment for the Pats. It speaks volumes about Kraft's standing with Goodell and the brotherhood of owners.

lillloyd · Oct 4, 2015

pwes said:
This thread is kinda dumb. Some of you guys need to get a grip even if you are just "joking around" (dubious). If a fan from another team came here and saw this you'd look like a bunch of lunatics

I'll say this: if I just dropped in here not knowing anything else about the team or the situation, never in a million years would I guess that this was a board for a team that was 3-0 (maybe heading for 16-0?!), coming off a Super Bowl season. Or that you WON in the hearing, leaving Goodell's legacy forever tainted.

Don't get me wrong -- this thing was a circus, so you guys have every right to stay as angry and outraged for as long as you deem necessary. But whether you should *want* to is another matter....Some of you are going to miss out on truly enjoying what may be a historic season--in the twilight of the TB/BB pairing (which won't last forever!)--if you keep rabbit ears up 24/7 for signs of hypocrisy, league incompetence, and biased/uninformed fans. These things have existed -- and will continue to exist -- no matter how long and hard you scream at the heavens about the injustice of it all.

I live in LA. Invariably, about once a month I encounter a driver on the 110 who does something *breathtakingly* moronic on the road--something so stupefying in its idiocy that it warrants an immediate, outright removal from the gene pool. This used to drive me bat$hit crazy, but as I've gotten older I've come to realize that in a large population, I pretty much have to "budget" for a certain percentage of terrible drivers...and more importantly, that my getting (and staying) angry about it will never change that. So now when it happens I think of it as part of my monthly 'idiot budget' and just move on. I'm a much happier driver.

Which is a longwinded way of saying: It would be a shame if things like cellphone/wristband issues--and frankly, hoping for other teams' misfortunes--were the topics 'renting space' in your heads, when you have Super Bowls and undefeated seasons to think about (!)

(Not sure if that analogy worked lol...but hey I mean well. )
Good luck,

lillloyd

ChoWZa · Oct 4, 2015

If the Patriots were as twisted as I am, I'd have Jimmy G (or whomever) do the exact same thing Rothlisberger just did, but make it look even more clearly like a cell phone. The catch is I'd have a sideline Patriots camera right on it which clearly shows that it's not a cell phone. Make no mention of the sideline camera, let the NFL run with the story, let them run an investigation, do everything they want to do, hold on until the sideline camera footage until the very end, act as if you just found it, make sure it clearly exonerates the Patriots. I would do something similar to this 3-4 times every season so the NFL is deathly afraid to do something like this again. The NFL will never go for something they don't have 100% evidence on for fear the Patriots are the ones running the sting.

BobDigital · Oct 4, 2015

I don't see how anyone can say it wasn't a phone. You clearly see something circular that appears metalic on the top center area of the object. You really only see that on phones.

Explain to me how that could be on an armband and i might believe it is an arm band.

Joseph K. Brady · Oct 4, 2015

Alright, let's take inventory. So far this season we have a team that accused the Patriots of screwing with their headsets while visitors that are caught on video exhibiting blatantly suspicious behavior while potentially using illegal on-field communication equipment while they're the home team - no league investigation, no league leaks to the media.

Then a team that accused the Patriots of suspicious activity with their footballs, going as far as to orchestrate a failed sting operation against them by going against league protocols in managing game balls, is caught on video exhibiting blatantly suspicious behavior (via a ball-man) in regards to in-game ball management - no league investigation, no league leaks to the media.

The solution is clear. The next time the Patriots are accused of wrongdoing, whether it be by having a league official scream in your face that your balls are light and you're screwed, or by having league leaks to obviously biased news outlets condemn you before the fact, rather than acting bewildered and thinking the league will address the issue in a fair, unbiased manner, simply do something blatantly suspicious, like kicking Kensil square in the nuts and screaming at him while he writhes on the ground "How's the air in those balls?" or cutting off Tomlins' microphone right when he's trying to tell everyone the Patriots always cut off their microphones. It's like Otter said in Animal House, "They're gonna (try to) nail us for something anyway, so we might as well have a good time...toga, toga, toga..."

Dr Pain · Oct 4, 2015

BobDigital said:
I don't see how anyone can say it wasn't a phone. You clearly see something circular that appears metalic on the top center area of the object. You really only see that on phones.

Explain to me how that could be on an armband and i might believe it is an arm band.

The Flex could be a camera distortion or more likely the case flexing. The thing which truly sells it not being what the Steelers claim is his reaction when he is no doubt told he is on TV. He acts incredibly guilty looking around and even behind him. Is it a phone, I have no idea but it is suspicious enough it should truly be looked into and it would never have gotten a second thought if we didn't push it.

Some folks talk about us needing to take the higher ground etc.. and it is almost laughable. We are fans, we can't get distracted from playing the next game as we don't play. All fans can do is shout when the other team on offense and if we can cause a distraction to a team full of people like Tomlin and Roethlisburger who were so *****y in week one, I feel great about that. Let our enemies know we are watching every move with insane attention. let the folks from ESPN like Mort know there is going to be a price to pay for their clownhood. Anyone here who talks trash to me or others for our own little wars of vengeance and truth are out of line. If you don't like it don't play.

lurker1965 · Oct 4, 2015

ChoWZa said:
If the Patriots were as twisted as I am, I'd have Jimmy G (or whomever) do the exact same thing Rothlisberger just did, but make it look even more clearly like a cell phone. The catch is I'd have a sideline Patriots camera right on it which clearly shows that it's not a cell phone. Make no mention of the sideline camera, let the NFL run with the story, let them run an investigation, do everything they want to do, hold on until the sideline camera footage until the very end, act as if you just found it, make sure it clearly exonerates the Patriots. I would do something similar to this 3-4 times every season so the NFL is deathly afraid to do something like this again. The NFL will never go for something they don't have 100% evidence on for fear the Patriots are the ones running the sting.

I don't know why, but I think that is pure evil. I LOVE it!!!!

Husse · Oct 5, 2015

ChoWZa said:
If the Patriots were as twisted as I am, I'd have Jimmy G (or whomever) do the exact same thing Rothlisberger just did, but make it look even more clearly like a cell phone. The catch is I'd have a sideline Patriots camera right on it which clearly shows that it's not a cell phone. Make no mention of the sideline camera, let the NFL run with the story, let them run an investigation, do everything they want to do, hold on until the sideline camera footage until the very end, act as if you just found it, make sure it clearly exonerates the Patriots. I would do something similar to this 3-4 times every season so the NFL is deathly afraid to do something like this again. The NFL will never go for something they don't have 100% evidence on for fear the Patriots are the ones running the sting.

Please no, the media could easily turn it around and make it Spygate 2.0 for having a video camera on the sideline.

RelocatedPatFan · Oct 5, 2015

I'm sure it was asked, but I haven't been in the thread since the earlier parts.

if it was a QB wristband (and thus perfectly legal), was it shown again on TV?

Husse said:
Please no, the media could easily turn it around and make it Spygate 2.0 for having a video camera on the sideline.

Let Ernie run it and I'm sure it could be used from a cell phone or some "fan" type of viewing in the stands.

neuronet · Oct 9, 2015

I'm now convinced it was not a phone, based on the slow-mo video (not the initial picture) in this:
http://www.footballbyfootball.com/column/roethlisberger-wasnt-holding-a-phone-on-the-sidelines-video

Time to let this matter rest.

Dr Pain · Oct 9, 2015

neuronet said:
I'm now convinced it was not a phone, based on the slow-mo video (not the initial picture) in this:
http://www.footballbyfootball.com/column/roethlisberger-wasnt-holding-a-phone-on-the-sidelines-video

Time to let this matter rest.

My son has a phone case that does this exact same thing. The NFL claims it took a photo, why not show it. they are hiding the NFL photo because it must not match what was seen on TV. They could end this with releasing that birth certificate, I mean photo. NFL has no right to belief without proof.

YOUGOTMOSSED · Oct 9, 2015

lillloyd said:
I'll say this: if I just dropped in here not knowing anything else about the team or the situation, never in a million years would I guess that this was a board for a team that was 3-0 (maybe heading for 16-0?!), coming off a Super Bowl season. Or that you WON in the hearing, leaving Goodell's legacy forever tainted.

Don't get me wrong -- this thing was a circus, so you guys have every right to stay as angry and outraged for as long as you deem necessary. But whether you should *want* to is another matter....Some of you are going to miss out on truly enjoying what may be a historic season--in the twilight of the TB/BB pairing (which won't last forever!)--if you keep rabbit ears up 24/7 for signs of hypocrisy, league incompetence, and biased/uninformed fans. These things have existed -- and will continue to exist -- no matter how long and hard you scream at the heavens about the injustice of it all.

I live in LA. Invariably, about once a month I encounter a driver on the 110 who does something *breathtakingly* moronic on the road--something so stupefying in its idiocy that it warrants an immediate, outright removal from the gene pool. This used to drive me bat$hit crazy, but as I've gotten older I've come to realize that in a large population, I pretty much have to "budget" for a certain percentage of terrible drivers...and more importantly, that my getting (and staying) angry about it will never change that. So now when it happens I think of it as part of my monthly 'idiot budget' and just move on. I'm a much happier driver.

Which is a longwinded way of saying: It would be a shame if things like cellphone/wristband issues--and frankly, hoping for other teams' misfortunes--were the topics 'renting space' in your heads, when you have Super Bowls and undefeated seasons to think about (!)

(Not sure if that analogy worked lol...but hey I mean well. )
Good luck,

lillloyd

It's kind of a problem when one of these idiots is running the NFL.

The NFL coming out immediately and saying definitively that Big Ben's phone wasn't a phone

really isn't the problem.

The problem is, when we're involved, it literally becomes a federal case.

At this point, the league is proactively screwing us and seems to take sick pleasure in it knowing they have an army of insanely jealous, ignorant muppets backing them. It makes this whole season a farce.

Galeb · Oct 9, 2015

lillloyd said:
I'll say this: if I just dropped in here not knowing anything else about the team or the situation, never in a million years would I guess that this was a board for a team that was 3-0 (maybe heading for 16-0?!), coming off a Super Bowl season. Or that you WON in the hearing, leaving Goodell's legacy forever tainted.

Don't get me wrong -- this thing was a circus, so you guys have every right to stay as angry and outraged for as long as you deem necessary. But whether you should *want* to is another matter....Some of you are going to miss out on truly enjoying what may be a historic season--in the twilight of the TB/BB pairing (which won't last forever!)--if you keep rabbit ears up 24/7 for signs of hypocrisy, league incompetence, and biased/uninformed fans. These things have existed -- and will continue to exist -- no matter how long and hard you scream at the heavens about the injustice of it all.

I live in LA. Invariably, about once a month I encounter a driver on the 110 who does something *breathtakingly* moronic on the road--something so stupefying in its idiocy that it warrants an immediate, outright removal from the gene pool. This used to drive me bat$hit crazy, but as I've gotten older I've come to realize that in a large population, I pretty much have to "budget" for a certain percentage of terrible drivers...and more importantly, that my getting (and staying) angry about it will never change that. So now when it happens I think of it as part of my monthly 'idiot budget' and just move on. I'm a much happier driver.

Which is a longwinded way of saying: It would be a shame if things like cellphone/wristband issues--and frankly, hoping for other teams' misfortunes--were the topics 'renting space' in your heads, when you have Super Bowls and undefeated seasons to think about (!)

(Not sure if that analogy worked lol...but hey I mean well. )
Good luck,

lillloyd

I don't think you understand the level of the continuing animosity the media (ESPN), league offices and numerous team owners/executives and coaches display towards the Patriots. As long as this keeps happening to just the Pats, nothing is going to change. Until other fanbases and teams realize how corrupt and unfair the NFL front office is, nothing is likely to change.

blueberryicedcoffee · Oct 9, 2015

Are people actually still talking about this?

The Brandon Five · Oct 9, 2015

blueberryicedcoffee said:
Are people actually still talking about this?

No, someone just posted a good article from a site that we all like. Most people moved on.

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