Media ignores Steelers caught cheating on TV last night

Bruins29 · Oct 2, 2015

Exactly, and the **** storm dosent even have to be that Benny had the cell phone. How about that the NFL did nothing about it when it has made such a big deal about #integrity.

Integrity lol

Galeb · Oct 2, 2015

KontradictioN said:
So basically, you have nothing. And nah, I think I'll stick around. Stay butthurt though. It's entertaining.

You're misunderstanding the motive and goal for most of us. The only way the NFL corruption gets fixed is if enough fans and owners realize the absurdity of it. If you want the NFL and press to just keep hitting the Pats with this and not other teams, while we just sit and take it, that's fine. Just realize that if you expect everyone to be "macho" enough to rise above standing up for fairness, you're be sorely disappointed.

The Gr8est · Oct 2, 2015

Bruins29 said:
Kontra, I think the problem everyone here has (and all Pats fans in general) is that in a league that really wants "partity" you can 't have hypocrisy, inconsistencies, favoritism, and witch hunts"

The Pats were penalized harshly for something that science said diddnt happen. The Pats brand has been tarnished, TB's cred questioned, and the fans had to endure a bunch of **** that will never go away.

I personally think every time a team "cheats" like in this OBVIOUS example, that it should be thrown in the face of everyone to show how phucked up the league is. It will also show how people cant be objective and fair and admit its all either, no big deal or its all cheating.

****ies are the people that cry when the pats may have done something but dont say a word when its another team. That is a pus$$y and I dont recall the USA being built on values like that.

Actually hypocrisy, inconsistencies, favoritism, and witch hunts is the only chance the NFL * actually has at parity.

Otherwise the better run teams will naturally rise to the top and ruin everything.

Kontradiction · Oct 2, 2015

KontradictioN said:
This doesn't need to be turned into a ****storm. Neither did Deflategate, Spygate, or Bountygate. This just maybe needs to be a simple fine. The "****storm" stance is the problem with the Goodell regime.

Once again, my OP for the raging masses with pitchforks and torches...

The Brandon Five · Oct 2, 2015

KontradictioN said:
And this is all exactly why Goodell has the power he has and exactly why there is a problem with his regime. Hoping for that continue is a failure of logic. There's nothing wrong with wanting Ben to be punished. Wanting it to turn into another scandal for Goodell to handle is what's wrong here and doesn't make sense given the way this fanbase responded to that logic in the offseason.

Nothing would end his reign faster than a ****storm that involved the Steelers.

A Defiant Goose · Oct 2, 2015

KontradictioN said:
And that's what the problem is. That people hope for another one just because it unfairly happened to the Pats is the issue here.

Maybe the more franchises/fanbases it happens to, the faster Goodell is fired

Kontradiction · Oct 2, 2015

Galeb said:
You're misunderstanding the motive and goal for most of us. The only way the NFL corruption gets fixed is if enough fans and owners realize the absurdity of it. If you want the NFL and press to just keep hitting the Pats with this and not other teams, while we just sit and take it, that's fine. Just realize that if you expect everyone to be "macho" enough to rise above standing up for fairness, you're be sorely disappointed.

Ah so hoping for another high profile scandal for GOODELL to handle and bungle will fix things with the NFL office? I think not.

The Brandon Five · Oct 2, 2015

KontradictioN said:
I don't have any problem with hoping he gets fined or suspended. If you remember, I mentioned he should be punished. My problem is with this fanbase hoping for a scandal. Seems awfully hypocritical with all of the squawking in the offseason when it happened with us.

I think a lot of that is tongue-in-cheek.

RobertWeathers · Oct 2, 2015

KontradictioN said:
I don't have any problem with hoping he gets fined or suspended. If you remember, I mentioned he should be punished. My problem is with this fanbase hoping for a scandal. Seems awfully hypocritical with all of the squawking in the offseason when it happened with us.

Yep. My point is that I don't see the elements of a scandal here though. This isn't about manufacturing evidence to frame a player, coach or team.There is no ratting and there isn't a requirement for a Ted Wells-worthy investigation.

There is no "ratting-out" so to speak. I'm calling for consistency and competence. Its as clear as day that he broke a rule.

Dr Pain · Oct 2, 2015

patchick said:
Come on, we can't go around telling people with differing opinions that they're not allowed in our echo chamber.

FWIW I can see both sides: point out the constant, blatant hypocrisy to get people off the Patriots' backs, and do unto others as you'd damn well like them to start doing unto you.

When they do it something like 10x in a row I think it is appropriate to say hey you said it already - enough - you disagree - you want to insult people who disagree- got it now let the people who are interested carry on in peace. The issue is the Steelers breaking a rule which just months ago had a 4 game suspension. This can't go unlooked at.

This was on TV, is against the rules and warrants a fine and suspension.

Bruins29 · Oct 2, 2015

KontradictioN said:
So then don't complain in thread after thread when the smallest non-issues turn into ****storms with the Pats.

I think everyone will. Why? because it will never stop. It will only stop when it happens to all teams and then it will sink in to all the moronic football fans that these little **** things happen every game, in every arena all the time.

And the fans will start to get tired of it, no matter who the team is. And that is when change will happen.

I think this not becoming a big deal greatly raises the chance of the next tiny thing the Pats do becoming a huge deal. Why? because people are losers and need something to ***** about and a target.

It aint fun though when the target is the same as everyone else, and your team is now under the microscope.

Froob · Oct 2, 2015

Ben's phone gets confiscated and Goody reads the msg
"Sup ben?"

"Not much just chillin"

FREEZING FOOTBALLS??!???!! AHAH! CHEATERS!!!!!

Galeb · Oct 2, 2015

KontradictioN said:
Ah so hoping for another high profile scandal for GOODELL to handle and bungle will fix things with the NFL office? I think not.

So you don't believe there is a critical mass of disillusioned fans and owners that would lead to change within the NFL front office? It's fine to disagree with a point like that, although I would question the intelligence of anyone who did. Thumping your chest and calling people ****ies that are "below you" for such a disagreement is absurd. Most of us would like all these ****storms to end. The problem is, if they only keep happening to the Patriots, they never will.

Kontradiction · Oct 2, 2015

Everyone quoting me (I have over 30 alerts), please explain how more scandals for Goodell to **** up will "stop the cycle". And do so in detail. Because it only sounds like you're mostly making excuses for still being sore that it happened to the Pats and, because of that, you want it to haplen to everyone else.

borisman · Oct 2, 2015

He looks guilty as hell, don't he?!

nabwong · Oct 2, 2015

It seems I have a different viewpoint than a lot of you and I can respect that. I do think (and I believe) that the Patriots organization share my viewpoint on this, that we do our talking on the field and not worry about these other frivolous things, especially careful not to go down to their level.

YOUGOTMOSSED · Oct 2, 2015

nabwong said:
Have we become a nation of rats? I mean, if it's in defense of OUR integrity, have at it. But ratting out other people and organization is pathetic.

Well, it suck when we're losing 1st draft picks over (1) interpretations of league memos on camera placement and (2) complying with the laws of physics

while certain other teams "for realsy" violations of rules that are actually in the rulebook (like textbook contract tampering with a key defensive player right before the playoffs) gets swept under the rug or a "slap on the wrist" type penalty.

Roger Goodell's NFL is beyond ridiculous.

Dr Pain · Oct 2, 2015

borisman said:
He looks guilty as hell, don't he?!

Love it. See how he is looking around wondering who saw me.

A Defiant Goose · Oct 2, 2015

KontradictioN said:
Everyone quoting me (I have over 30 alerts), please explain how more scandals for Goodell to **** up will "stop the cycle". And do so in detail. Because it only sounds like you're mostly making excuses for still being sore that it happened to the Pats and, because of that, you want it to haplen to everyone else.

Simple. There's a 1-31 vote for firing Goodell right now. If it happens to the Steelers, there's now maybe a 2-30 vote. The more teams it happens to (and not just the big bad Pats that everyone thinks they had it coming to) the better

Bruins29 · Oct 2, 2015

KontradictioN said:
Everyone quoting me (I have over 30 alerts), please explain how more scandals for Goodell to **** up will "stop the cycle". And do so in detail. Because it only sounds like you're mostly making excuses for still being sore that it happened to the Pats and, because of that, you want it to haplen to everyone else.

As DI posted a few months ago.

"First they came....."

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