OT - Less than 10 percent of NFL pink merchandise sales go toward cancer research

Makes sense that 345 Park Ave might need to keep some of this revenue. A lot of sick boobs work there.

I am sorry but I think the cause needs to change for all cancers. I don't agree with this.

Take stats for each year of all types of cancers and send the cheques out accordingly, based on percentage affected.

However make the entire month dedicated to cancer awareness, ALL cancers. Tally that up, divide it accordingly and send out the cheque.

Why does it have to be a static thing each year. Society and life moves, trends change.

And shame on the NFL, 8%, not acceptable for the amount of cash the League takes in. They are not successful because of management, they are successful despite management....

They make no profit, they donate millions. They raise awareness getting others to donate. Consider how much a 30 second commercial costs in an NFL game. Then consider having several spots for a month in EVERY single game, plus players dressed and working with the campaign. The advertising alone is worth tens of millions.

Maybe you guys will get your wish and the NFL will donate nothing. There's a million other causes they could take up that would be happy for a fraction of the attention. If all they get is whining then that's probably what they'll do.

They give nothing to many charities and people are worried about the one they give something to. It's stupid.

Bobsyouruncle said:

They make no profit, they donate millions. They raise awareness getting others to donate. Consider how much a 30 second commercial costs in an NFL game. Then consider having several spots for a month in EVERY single game, plus players dressed and working with the campaign. The advertising alone is worth tens of millions.

Maybe you guys will get your wish and the NFL will donate nothing. There's a million other causes they could take up that would be happy for a fraction of the attention. If all they get is whining then that's probably what they'll do.

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We're not asking them not to donate anything but rather not so sanctimonious. It's the "look at us, we're wearing pink and donating to woman's cancer causes so buy our apparel" when they are also making money on the deal and donating a relatively small percent...This is the same league that took money to promote the armed forces with pregame displays ....
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...k-tax-dollars-for-patriotic-pregame-displays/

old 55 said:

The problem is the K o m e n group. They are all about fund raising and very little goes to cancer research. Almost all the money goes to administration costs and marketing, and even the money spent on cancer research is often spent ineffectively. There is a good documentary on this that I saw on Netflix. It's an eye opener. It made me angry to see how the efforts & hopes of so many women, many cancer survivors, are squandered and frankly exploited.

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Yes. If you want get angry quickly and thoroughly disgusted, watch that.

Marinlik said:

It's not really surprising. The big thing that the NFL always says is "cancer Awareness". The whole thing is more about getting people to go test themselves than it is about donating money to charity.

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They call that deflection.

There is nothing wrong with raising awareness but the issue is that the NFLs actions do not map back to real, measureable results.

Patsfanin Philly said:

We're not asking them not to donate anything but rather not so sanctimonious. It's the "look at us, we're wearing pink and donating to woman's cancer causes so buy our apparel" when they are also making money on the deal and donating a relatively small percent...This is the same league that took money to promote the armed forces with pregame displays ....
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...k-tax-dollars-for-patriotic-pregame-displays/

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How are they making money on the deal except through indirect PR?

n6249c said:

One thing to keep in mind, if those are charities it's comparing apples and pineapples. When I just tried to google it I got lists of charities that are pure donations-based fundraising machines, not sellers of merchandise. Think Salvation Army Santas, compared to Girl Scout cookies. Can't evaluate the performance the same way for such different models.

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Girl Scouts of America is a dynasty.
$700m in revenues

Bobsyouruncle said:

How are they making money on the deal except through indirect PR?

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See below. Mainly licencing. It's a joke.

Not only that but the "Crucial Catch" program it sponsors is medically misinformative.


https://sports.vice.com/en_us/article/the-nfls-pink-october-does-not-raise-money-for-cancer-research

This was brought up before, several times. I think there is a thread or two about it.

Just shameful. Completely shameful.

robertweathers said:

See below. Mainly licencing. It's a joke.

Not only that but the "Crucial Catch" program it sponsors is medically misinformative.


https://sports.vice.com/en_us/article/the-nfls-pink-october-does-not-raise-money-for-cancer-research

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The article doesn't back up that they make profit, or make it from licensing. And it's just a guy from another charity complaining they don't donate to his.

They donate to the ACS, if you have a problem with how ACS uses the money that's not in the NFL's hands.

Bobsyouruncle said:

How are they making money on the deal except through indirect PR?

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They are the retailer that takes 50% of the costs. It doesn't cost $150 to manufacture and transport the team jerseys to the endpoint. Look at how cheap the knockoffs are. You are paying for the "official NFL" designation which is the fee paid to the league to use their logo/trademark....

Patsfanin Philly said:

They are the retailer that takes 50% of the costs. It doesn't cost $150 to manufacture and transport the team jerseys to the endpoint. Look at how cheap the knockoffs are. You are paying for the "official NFL" designation which is the fee paid to the league to use their logo/trademark....

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NFL is not the manufacturer. They can only donate their own profits. They can't donate the money made by the people that make the material, make the clothes, drive the trucks, or sell the clothes. They can only donate the share they get- and they do.

I'm done with this, you guys are completely irrational. The criticism boils down to they should give more when they have no obligation to give anything. The NFL does more for this than anyone in this thread.

Bobsyouruncle said:

NFL is not the manufacturer. They can only donate their own profits. They can't donate the money made by the people that make the material, make the clothes, drive the trucks, or sell the clothes. They can only donate the share they get- and they do.

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I didn't say they were. Of the cost, 37.5% goes to manufacturer and 50% goes to the retailer which is the NFL.........The NFL wouldn't sell it unless they were making a profit. It goes back to my point. Let's ask how much in real dollars they are donating.
They are selling more jerseys than they would otherwise so they are profiting off of a charitable promotion....Yes, I am glad the money is going to research but the NFL shouldn't be chest thumping how great they are when they too are making money...

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The league uses the color on its jerseys and other apparel in an effort to raise money for breast cancer research, but according to the report, the breakdown of how the money from sales of the apparel gets distributed is as follows: 50 percent to the retailer; 37.5 percent to the manufacturer; 8.1 percent to the American Cancer Society for research; 3.24 percent to the administration at the Society; and 1.25 percent to the NFL.

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Bobsyouruncle said:

The article doesn't back up that they make profit, or make it from licensing. And it's just a guy from another charity complaining they don't donate to his.

They donate to the ACS, if you have a problem with how ACS uses the money that's not in the NFL's hands.

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Below are the actuals.

The NFL never does anything for free.

According to data obtained from the NFL by Darren Rovell of ESPN, the NFL "takes a 25% royalty from the wholesale price (1/2 retail), donates 90% of royalty to American Cancer Society."

In other words, for every $100 in pink merchandise sold, $12.50 goes to the NFL. Of that, $11.25 goes to the American Cancer Society (ACS) and the NFL keeps the rest. The remaining money is then divided up by the company that makes the merchandise (37.5%) and the company that sells the merchandise (50.0%), which is often the NFL and the individual teams.

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http://www.businessinsider.com/smal...andise-goes-to-breast-cancer-research-2013-10

robertweathers said:

Below are the actuals.

The NFL never does anything for free.



http://www.businessinsider.com/smal...andise-goes-to-breast-cancer-research-2013-10

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That says the NFL donates 100% profit to charity. Revenue is not profit. They can't donate revenue because it's not their money.

Bobsyouruncle said:

That says the NFL donates 100% profit to charity. Revenue is not profit. They can't donate revenue because it's not their money.

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Okay, that's not what it says, it says they donate 90% of their 12.5% "profit." This is after they take their 50% cut off the top.

So, the NFL gets 62.5% of sales, and only donates a small fraction of it. And even that is only to give the illusion that they care about women's welfare.

They're making money.

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That says the NFL donates 100% profit to charity. Revenue is not profit. They can't donate revenue because it's not their money.

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You are being condescending. I am trying to share information with you as you are not accurate in your statement.

According to the NFL, any money they take in, that is not donated to ACS, is used to cover the costs of their breast cancer awareness program, "A Crucial Catch."

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Using proceeds to cover a program is not giving to a charity but rather to fund the administrative overhead in executing the program.

I haven't even dived into how the $ from the 50% retailer mark-up is dispersed.

Bobsyouruncle said:

NFL is not the manufacturer. They can only donate their own profits. They can't donate the money made by the people that make the material, make the clothes, drive the trucks, or sell the clothes. They can only donate the share they get- and they do.

I'm done with this, you guys are completely irrational. The criticism boils down to they should give more when they have no obligation to give anything. The NFL does more for this than anyone in this thread.

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Bob maybe you can twist your point into something logical. But here's the problem. Whether the league is giving dollars to research and programs, or whether the league is giving millions of dollars of ACCESS to the message for free. What they ARE'T doing is letting the public know how their money is being spent. and why isn't the league being more honest about this project. It's like the . NFL is embarrassed about it. This is the same kind of honesty the league is giving about this program as they gave us about Brady

So based on this thread, and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. 1. Over 90% of all the "pink money"never sees any type of cancer function. , (either awareness or research 2. The major awareness message the league is spreading is outdated and because it's outdated, might be deemed harmful.

So there we have it. The NFL puts it full support behind a breast cancer drive that DOESN'T raise any money, and DOESN'T spread helpful information. Sounds to me like the boys at 354 Park ave have ANOTHER scalp for their belts. ......and the hits just keep on coming.

As disgusting as this is, fortunately there are charities where all donations go directly to research, treatment, etc. Granted in those cases you're not buying merchandise but donating directly. Remember last year during the ice bucket challenge? ALS.org is a good organization but not all of the donations are directly for research and stuff. It is a large organization so there are plenty of operating costs and they have to pay salaries and stuff. On the other hand, ALSTDI.org is a smaller organization and 100% of all donations go to research.