Stephen A Smith: "Tom Brady Does Not Show Up Against Elite Defenses"

Stephen A. is just upset at the Patriots because during training camp they went to Foxboro for a show and the team didn't brought players to them until like 5 minutes before the show was over. He was so pissed that he compare them to the Jets and Bills who did cater them.
Seen him so mad just brought a smile in my face...

goheels22002 said:

You're kidding, right? A punt would have tacked on another 40 yards or so for the Colts to cover in 2:00. The Colts would started at their own 30-yard-line or thereabouts. They had to have a TD down 34-28. Yeah, the defense was tired, but it was a big signal that Belichick didn't trust the defense to keep the Colts out of the end zone.

It was a gutsy call, but one that backfired.

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Did you trust the defense to keep the Colts out of the end zone? I sure as hell didn't.

Hanson's last 2 punts were 33 and 37 yard shank jobs. It would be his final season, and he had a putrid average of 39.7 ypp. That was dead last in the league.

But say your scenario happens, and the punt goes 40 yards and there's no return. Manning would have to go 70 yards with a timeout and the 2 minute warning.

The previous drive he went 79 yards in 1:40.

The drive before that, he went 79 yards in 1:53.

Those were without timeouts.

I can certainly understand why Belichick would want to end the game right there, and he could. They were jumpy on the play, and the call was wack. It happens.

I still think it was the right call, and I'd hope he'd do it again.

Chiuba E. Obele said:

Stephen A. Smith is an Aaron Rodgers fanboy....anything that makes Brady look bad is a plus for him

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Didn't Rogers lose the NFCCG to that same "crippled" defense in Seattle?

goheels22002 said:

You're kidding, right? A punt would have tacked on another 40 yards or so for the Colts to cover in 2:00. The Colts would have started at their own 30-yard-line or thereabouts. They had to have a TD down 34-28. Yeah, the defense was tired, but it was a big signal that Belichick didn't trust the defense to keep the Colts out of the end zone.

It was a gutsy call, but one that backfired.

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TommyD4207 said:

Did you trust the defense to keep the Colts out of the end zone? I sure as hell didn't.

Hanson's last 2 punts were 33 and 37 yard shank jobs. It would be his final season, and he had a putrid average of 39.7 ypp. That was dead last in the league.

But say your scenario happens, and the punt goes 40 yards and there's no return. Manning would have to go 70 yards with a timeout and the 2 minute warning.

The previous drive he went 79 yards in 1:40.

The drive before that, he went 79 yards in 1:53.

Those were without timeouts.

I can certainly understand why Belichick would want to end the game right there, and he could. They were jumpy on the play, and the call was wack. It happens.

I still think it was the right call, and I'd hope he'd do it again.

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So, how did it work for you?

goheels22002 said:

So, how did it work for you?

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It sucked.

It doesn't make it the wrong call, just because they didn't make it. If they had, Belichick would have been hailed as a genius.

Tony2046 said:

As it stands now Rogers more on a Manning type career path than a Brady type.

Aaron Rogers 6-5 in the playoffs with 3 one and dones.

Peyton Manning 11-13 with 9 one and dones.

Tom Brady 21-8 with 2 one and dones.

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Great stuff - I just zipped a tweet off to this latest ESPN culprit, Steven A. - with these numbers. I doubt he'll respond, but it was the least I could do.

TommyD4207 said:

Disagree. We had a **** punter and a gassed and crappy defense. If that punt had gone over midfield it would have been a miracle.

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Not to mention Manning was carving the defense up in between the 20s.. punting wouldn't have mattered, the game was going to come down to making a stop in the red zone, so they elected to go for it on 4th and have a shot at winning the game outright.. if Faulk doesn't bobble the catch it'd a first down and everyone is freaking out. .

Still like the call

goheels22002 said:

You're kidding, right? A punt would have tacked on another 40 yards or so for the Colts to cover in 2:00. The Colts would have started at their own 30-yard-line or thereabouts. They had to have a TD down 34-28. Yeah, the defense was tired, but it was a big signal that Belichick didn't trust the defense to keep the Colts out of the end zone.

It was a gutsy call, but one that backfired.

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It's all perception... players on the actual defense argued that it showed confidence in the defense to make a stop in the red zone of it didnt work out


Manning was moving the ball effortlessly all game long between the 20s.. punting it wouldn't have mattered, with 4 downs and some timeouts, he was going to move the ball into the redzone and force the defense to make a stop anyways

Going for it just gave them an extra chance to win it

goheels22002 said:

So, how did it work for you?

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The luxury of hindsight

goheels22002 said:

So, how did it work for you?

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I didn't work out well but I liked the play call or at least understood why he called it.

Deus Irae said:

Yes, I watched the game. Yes, McCarthy's a good coach. No, McCarthy's not an anchor around Rodgers' neck. Yes, your argument was a lousy one.

Belichick screwed the pooch on 4th and 2, all those years ago. That must mean he's a ****ty coach, right?

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If, for example, Belichick had screwed the pooch on 4th and 2 oh, say 5 or six times in the same game it would

JarOfMayo51 said:

Not to mention Manning was carving the defense up in between the 20s.. punting wouldn't have mattered, the game was going to come down to making a stop in the red zone, so they elected to go for it on 4th and have a shot at winning the game outright.. if Faulk doesn't bobble the catch it'd a first down and everyone is freaking out. .

Still like the call

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2nd half drives for the Colts, prior to the 4th and 2 call:

Start at Colt 14, INT at Colt 38
Start at Colt 20, punt at Colt 36
Start at Colt 21, TD
Start at Colt 18, INT on first play of drive
Start at Colt 21, TD


Manning was not carving up the defense in between the 20's, and he threw as many 2nd half picks as he threw 2nd half TDs, up to the time of that 4th down call. The Patriots offense was out of sync for the first 3 plays of the ill-fated drive, and ended up blowing their last 2 timeouts during it, yet BB still went on 4th. BB screwed the pooch.

And I say that as someone who thinks Faulk got the first down.

rochrist said:

If, for example, Belichick had screwed the pooch on 4th and 2 oh, say 5 or six times in the same game it would

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No, it would mean he had a bad game. That happens to everyone.

Tony2046 said:

As it stands now Rogers more on a Manning type career path than a Brady type.

Aaron Rogers 6-5 in the playoffs with 3 one and dones.

Peyton Manning 11-13 with 9 one and dones.

Tom Brady 21-8 with 2 one and dones.

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shhh tony, youre not suppose to bring those numbers up..
amazing that tom only has 2 one and dones and one was after coming off ACL surgery. plus, that team sucked.

Seriously...now he's blatent.

Is there a HoF QB who hasn't had a tough time vs an elite defense?

Marino vs 85 Bears is all I got.

rochrist said:

If, for example, Belichick had screwed the pooch on 4th and 2 oh, say 5 or six times in the same game it would

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That was a remarkable collapse in the fourth Qtr.



Nice passer ratings during the championship games.

NEW FLASH - Stephan A. is a moron that has his own radio show. He is a buffoon. Much like the fat kid that needed attention that we all knew in grade school, he tends to say outrageous stuff so that people notice him and will "tune in" to see what kind of dumb-ass stuff he gonna say next. We all know that people can't take their eyes of a train wreck, and people like this assclown depend on that fact to make a living.

TommyD4207 said:

It sucked.

It doesn't make it the wrong call, just because they didn't make it. If they had, Belichick would have been hailed as a genius.

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A very careful review of the video shows they did gain the 2 yards but didn't get the call. The actual spot was ridiculously off but many reasonable spots would have also been marked short.

It was the correct call on every level. Betting that Manning and the Colts offense couldn't cover 35-40 yards in a minute is (and was) a fool's bet. That doesn't even take into consideration that statistically going for it was a much higher percentage chance of winning.

TommyD4207 said:

I gave you an agree, because everything in your post was right on until the end. 4th and 2 was the right call, and if the same situation came up, I'd hope he'd do it again.

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Well, being an unregenerate homer, I actually believe Faulk made that first down in the infamous 4th and 2 game.

Geeze, I can't imagine if the intentional safty in Denver has backfired.