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Stephen A Smith: "Tom Brady Does Not Show Up Against Elite Defenses"


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Chiefs game, week 4 of last year

That had nada to do with KC's defense....no one showed up that day from the Patriots.

Every QB has trouble against the best defenses, but on average, Brady handles them at the top of his class.
 
That had nada to do with KC's defense....no one showed up that day from the Patriots.

I was answering a specific question. The answer to BradyFTW!'s question is that the last time Brady tossed in a clunker against an 'elite' (Chiefs were #2 in scoring) defense was that Chiefs game.
 
I've stopped concerning myself with the opinions of haters. Brady is the best ever. You can cry Manning cause he's lovably goofy looking and doesn't **** on your team in the playoffs. You can cry Rodgers cause he's the next big thing and has mobility to go with his game. It doesn't matter. To me, anyway. Brady is the GOAT. Hands down. It'll take Rodgers getting at least 4 SBs total for there to be a second thought in my mind about it.

But I'm a Pats fan, I'm a little biased


As it stands now Rogers more on a Manning type career path than a Brady type.

Aaron Rogers 6-5 in the playoffs with 3 one and dones.

Peyton Manning 11-13 with 9 one and dones.

Tom Brady 21-8 with 2 one and dones.
 
Thanks for posting this. You've helped Smith accomplish what he set out to accomplish, which was troll the ignorant masses into attention and ratings. I'm hard pressed to give a **** about what he says. I LOL at it, actually. Brady's body of work speaks for itself.
 
The best part of the Brady vs. anyone arguments is that Patriots fans talk about Brady with a huge smile. I mean, maybe the best judge of a quarterback is how much happiness he has brought to his city or region. Patriots fans love Brady; we have no regrets, none at all. There's no reason to make excuses, since there's nothing to complain about - no shortcomings, no coulda shouldas. Talking to Manning "defenders", it is obvious who is the better QB just based on their general attitude. They are basically miserable as they wax poetic about why Manning's failures happened and how if they switch teams, blah blah blah, if if if, blah blah blah. That is mostly the reason why everyone hates Patriots fans and call us "homers". We just smile and nod and then politely say "I'd rather have Brady, thanks." The Manning crowd then goes home to their miserable could have been fan life and rationalize their hero's epic failures.
 
2 weeks prior to the Super Bowl, the almighty Aaron Rodgers went 19-34, 178 yards, 1 TD, 2 INTs against Seattle.

If Brady "didn't show up" against that team, that what is Rodgers?!?!?!
 
Rodgers has played pretty darn well in the playoffs. Hard to say he is anything like Manning. Manning is literally something like 1-10 in fourth quarter comeback situations and probably closer to 1-20 if you count the actual number of drives he's had. He is the master of just outright failing on many levels in the postseason, and he is well known for his pick 6s in the big games.

I have no idea where all this Rodgers rationalizing is coming from. I don't think he played great against Seattle last year, and it was a game Brady would have won. That being said, his overall body of work in the postseason is nowhere near the type of failing effort that some are saying. He has only been to the postseason six times, and although you could call his play sub-par on some occasstions, the playoffs are a different beast and are difficult for pure passing offenses. We know that well. It's not like he puts up 10 points, throws pick-6s in the fourth quarter, or just suddenly becomes completely inept like Manning. No way those two are similar in the postseason. It's hard to win a Super Bowl. Brady just went TEN years without winning one. I think Rodgers, when all is said and done, improves on that playoff winning percentage, which is a fairly small sample size to begin with.

I would also add that Mike McCarthy is not Bill Belichick. This is a somewhat legitimate argument that works for Rodgers, whereas Manning's postseason failures have been his own fault, nothing to do with the coaching or defense. I'm not saying Rodgers gets a pass on everything, just that with better coaching, no doubt his postseason record improves, and with such a small sample size, one win changes it from 6-5 to 7-4, and two wins changes it to 8-3. Just saying, 6-5 is being used way too much here as some kind of iron number. Let's see his record at the end of his career.
 
This all comes from two games against the Baltimore Ravens in the 2011 and 2012 playoffs, when our offensive stars were off the field due to injury. That's where this moronic narrative began.
 
Yes, I watched the game. Yes, McCarthy's a good coach. No, McCarthy's not an anchor around Rodgers' neck. Yes, your argument was a lousy one.

Belichick screwed the pooch on 4th and 2, all those years ago. That must mean he's a ****ty coach, right?

I gave you an agree, because everything in your post was right on until the end. 4th and 2 was the right call, and if the same situation came up, I'd hope he'd do it again.
 
I gave you an agree, because everything in your post was right on until the end. 4th and 2 was the right call, and if the same situation came up, I'd hope he'd do it again.

4th and 2 was a terrible call, and BB will never make that mistake again. He let himself get spooked by Manning. Those days are gone.
 
As it stands now Rogers more on a Manning type career path than a Brady type.

Aaron Rogers 6-5 in the playoffs with 3 one and dones.

Peyton Manning 11-13 with 9 one and dones.

Tom Brady 21-8 with 2 one and dones.
Those are INCREDIBLE stats, to add to the incredible stats Brady has already put up that are unrivaled.
 
Rodgers has played pretty darn well in the playoffs. Hard to say he is anything like Manning. Manning is literally something like 1-10 in fourth quarter comeback situations and probably closer to 1-20 if you count the actual number of drives he's had. He is the master of just outright failing on many levels in the postseason, and he is well known for his pick 6s in the big games.

This is your defense for Aaron Rodgers? At least Manning can claim he came back from, whatever it was, 24 down with 5 minutes to go @ Tampa. Or from 21-6 down in an AFCCG.

Aaron Rodgers has never overcome a deficit of larger than 9 points. Ever. He's the ultimate frontrunner. He's awesome at it, but let's not pretend that Rodgers' whopping nine....nine...4th quarter comebacks are anything short of pedestrian.

QBs who also have nine 4th quarter comebacks, immortals like: Kordell Stewart, Brian Griese, Charlie Batch, MARC WILSON, Josh Freeman, and, of course, Cam Newton. Of course, Cam's only been a starter for half of Rodgers' career.

Matt Cassel has 8. Matt Cassel.
 
4th and 2 was a terrible call, and BB will never make that mistake again. He let himself get spooked by Manning. Those days are gone.

Disagree. We had a **** punter and a gassed and crappy defense. If that punt had gone over midfield it would have been a miracle.
 
I blame 60 Minutes for all this. Decades ago they pioneered the "point/counterpoint" format for one of their segments. I give them credit for eventually canning it when the topics proved to be too forced. Unfortunately now we are left with an entire media where point counterpoint is the ONLY method of discussing issues. Even the most ludicrous positions get equal time now. The Flat Earth Society are big winners. :rolleyes:


 
Disagree. We had a **** punter and a gassed and crappy defense. If that punt had gone over midfield it would have been a miracle.

The offense was in complete disarray for that entire series. Going for it was idiotic.


And I'm being way too kind by calling it idiotic. It really deserves a whole slew of expletives.
 
The offense was in complete disarray for that entire series. Going for it was idiotic.


And I'm being way too kind by calling it idiotic. It really deserves a whole slew of expletives.

What would be the benefit of punting there?
 
What would be the benefit of punting there?

You're kidding, right? A punt would have tacked on another 40 yards or so for the Colts to cover in 2:00. The Colts would have started at their own 30-yard-line or thereabouts. They had to have a TD down 34-28. Yeah, the defense was tired, but it was a big signal that Belichick didn't trust the defense to keep the Colts out of the end zone.

It was a gutsy call, but one that backfired.
 
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