Interesting Stat Through Three Games

I'm going to assume his fumble rate is going to go down. If so, I think he's better than both. If not, he'd be better served if he overslept for practice.

So far BB has given Lewis a longer leash than either Faulk or Ridley...

He must see something in Lewis he REALLY likes.

Here's some interesting stats: Patriots' opponents are 5-1 in games not played against the Patriots while outscoring their opponents by 63 points. They have allowed just 15.3 points against teams not the Patriots while allowing 39.7 points to the Patriots.

I expect woodhead will lose snaps to Gordon, vereen will gain some because the giants Rb's suck and Lewis will probably stay about the same

IMHO, it just shows that Coach Bill can find cast offs and plug them into our team, and they work like a fine switch watch. Where did Woodhead come from?

How many times have we seen players excel in the NE system that will play to their strengths, only to see them have difficulty adjusting to another system..

Often imitated, seldom duplicated..

BlueThunder said:

So far BB has given Lewis a longer leash than either Faulk or Ridley...

He must see something in Lewis he REALLY likes.

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Faulk had 11 career fumbles

1999 - 3
2000 - 4
2003 - 3

10 of them were early in his career. BB was patient with Faulk too then. It's all about risk reward. At this point, a few fumbles early in Dion's career with New England is more than offset by his current and potential production. This of course changes as each game goes by.

NormZauchin said:

After three games, Shane Vereen and Danny Woodhead have almost identical numbers: 12 receptions out of 16 targets for 122 yards and no TDs for Vareen; 12 receptions out of 16 targets for 119 yards and no TDs for Woodhead. Dion Lewis? - 15 reception out of 19 targets for 179 yards and no TDs.

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Didn't Lewis just have a TD against the Jags? He also has a bit of fumblitis, although he did better this past Sunday.

wizwor said:

Pretty sure either of these guys would be doing as well with the Pats this year.

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yup, so why pay 5m

FourierSeries said:

Not surprised at all. I've said all along that Lewis is better than both.

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I also like Dion Lewis alot, but you are judging the three results in a vacuum.

Vereen and Woodhead are not operating in the best offense in football.

It's like saying, 'Gee that guy in Bangladesh doesn't drive as nice a car as that guy as that guy in Beverly Hills'.

Ice_Ice_Brady said:

Watching Lewis, it seems like someone put Vereen out there and flipped on the "turbo" switch. Vereen was a great back - reliable, didn't fumble, etc. - but Lewis is so much more elusive and likely to break off a big play. It's amazing that no one wanted this guy.

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Everybody keeps comparing Lewis to Vereen and Woodhead. I'm with Ivan Fears in saying that he is far more similar to Kevin Faulk.

smg93 said:

Faulk had 11 career fumbles

1999 - 3
2000 - 4
2003 - 3

10 of them were early in his career. BB was patient with Faulk too then. It's all about risk reward. At this point, a few fumbles early in Dion's career with New England is more than offset by his current and potential production. This of course changes as each game goes by.

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Belichick may also be more tolerant of the fumbles because it is early in the season and the Patriots have enjoyed sizeable leads (at least until the fourth quarter) against all three of their opponents.

PatsDeb said:

Didn't Lewis just have a TD against the Jags? He also has a bit of fumblitis, although he did better this past Sunday.

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I was just citing receiving stats.

shmessy said:

I also like Dion Lewis alot, but you are judging the three results in a vacuum.

Vereen and Woodhead are not operating in the best offense in football.

It's like saying, 'Gee that guy in Bangladesh doesn't drive as nice a car as that guy as that guy in Beverly Hills'.

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True, but we have seen them in NE's offense, so it isn't a completely unfair comparison. Thus far, Lewis looks to be the best of the three, combining the better parts of Woodhead and Vereen with power that neither has. Maybe it's a fluke, maybe it's unsustainable due to his size, but for now it is encouraging.

NashuaPats said:

Here's some interesting stats: Patriots' opponents are 5-1 in games not played against the Patriots while outscoring their opponents by 63 points. They have allowed just 15.3 points against teams not the Patriots while allowing 39.7 points to the Patriots.

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Wow.

shmessy said:

Everybody keeps comparing Lewis to Vereen and Woodhead. I'm with Ivan Fears in saying that he is far more similar to Kevin Faulk.

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Dion and Faulk definitely have similar timed speeds. Faulk was more of a 1-cut runner than Dion though, and he couldn't break a tackle to save his life.

Concussion Protocol said:

Dion and Faulk definitely have similar timed speeds. Faulk was more of a 1-cut runner than Dion though, and he couldn't break a tackle to save his life.

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You saw a different man named Kevin Falk than I did ,then.

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shmessy said:

Everybody keeps comparing Lewis to Vereen and Woodhead. I'm with Ivan Fears in saying that he is far more similar to Kevin Faulk.

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None of those are unflattering comparisons.

n6249c said:

None of those are unflattering comparisons.

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No doubt. I'm talking about similarity.

Ivan Fears (who knows a thing or two about NE Patriot running backs) agrees.

I would say Vereen was more of a receiver than a true running back. He ran great routes and had great straight line speed. Lewis is more of a true running back, he's more elusive than Vereen or Woodhead but probably not as durable since he's smaller and not as "thick". I think Faulk is a very apt comparison.

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You saw a different man named Kevin Falk than I did ,then.

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I guess so