Prediction – Bye Week Trade Coming…

Froob said:

And the Browns will be looking to trade him because....?

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Yeah, if the guy isn't either a huge disappointment, superfluous to current need, or a malcontent, he's probably not being traded. This isn't Madden. The only players available for trade are going to be guys like Marcus Cooper, who are on the fringe of other rosters. People expect Talib to walk through that door, but that was pure luck.

Looks like Alterraun Verner is falling out of favor in TB, but 14/17 of his salary is still $3.5M, which is too much unless the Pats were to make other moves.

Brady6 said:

Belichick loves to address team needs during the bye week via trade. Last season we incorporated Ayers, Branch, and Casillas around the bye.

I am thinking they will bring in a CB, I do not think it will be Joe Haden, but I do think it will be a solid NFL CB.

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I don't see a trade this early because teams are still in it. Once a team like cleveland (for ex) knows they're going no where than their more likely to hold a fire sale.

Wordsmyth said:

Revis and Talib weren't "aholes"? I don't really care. This isn't the Miss Congeniality portion of a beauty pageant.

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no ****, thats why I said it didnt matter

Sciz said:

Looks like Alterraun Verner is falling out of favor in TB, but 14/17 of his salary is still $3.5M, which is too much unless the Pats were to make other moves.

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This is excellent thinking, Verner is exactly the type of player we might take a chance on.

Brady6 said:

This is excellent thinking, Verner is exactly the type of player we might take a chance on.

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Who will we cut or trade?

Chiuba E. Obele said:

Who will we cut or trade?

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Trade a 5th round draft pick and cut Fletcher.

A guy came through here yesterday that was a late round draft day binky of mine, who ended up not being drafted, signed with the Jags and made their roster as a developmental player. Nick Marshall is a 6'2 CB who used to ba a starting SEC QB. He has some of the size we are lacking at CB His measurables were good enough to get looked at and his work ethic was good enough to make a roster.

THAT's the kind of mid season pick up that would seem to fit both positional and cap needs.

Sciz said:

Looks like Alterraun Verner is falling out of favor in TB, but 14/17 of his salary is still $3.5M, which is too much unless the Pats were to make other moves.

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I want nothing to do with Verner. Crappy zone only corner. He's falling out of favor in TB because he sucks.

varjao said:

I would welcome a power back, Blount got his TD's yesterday and that's nice but looking ahead to the playoffs, against better defenses I don't want that pass pass pass game plan again.

Lewis looks nice running and catching passes, White is getting a few touches too, I don't know, I like Blount, but he is limited.

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Could have kept Jonas Gray for that whopping 510K salary. BTW, Gray just did what he does yesterday, going out and getting 5.4 ypc on 9 for 49.

I know people here make jokes about what they heard (how he was late for one practice), but is Travaris Cadet as our THIRD 3rd down back really a priority?

Pray for Blount's continued health. We will need that kind of runner when the weather turns.

patfanken said:

A guy came through here yesterday that was a late round draft day binky of mine, who ended up not being drafted, signed with the Jags and made their roster as a developmental player. Nick Marshall is a 6'2 CB who used to ba a starting SEC QB. He has some of the size we are lacking at CB His measurables were good enough to get looked at and his work ethic was good enough to make a roster.

THAT's the kind of mid season pick up that would seem to fit both positional and cap needs.

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It is true "he used to be a starting SEC quarterback", but that undersells him a bit IMHO. He converted from cornerback to quarterback at Auburn and led then to the BCS Championship game against Jamious Winston and Florida St. in 2014. Auburn lost the National Championship by a breath (34-31), but not because of Marshall, he is a winner. I think he would be a fabulous pickup.

shmessy said:

Could have kept Jonas Gray for that whopping 510K salary. BTW, Gray just did what he does yesterday, going out and getting 5.4 ypc on 9 for 49.

I know people here make jokes about what they heard (how he was late for one practice), but is Travaris Cadet as our THIRD 3rd down back really a priority?

Pray for Blount's continued health. We will need that kind of runner when the weather turns.

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I agree that we need to pray for Blount's continued health (as well as that of every other Patriot player), but that isn't the only way we could lose him. He has quite a history of clashing with coaches and players and getting suspended.

Blount 2008 season with Oregon: Clashed with Coach Bellotti earning a part game suspension. After missing several workouts, suspended indefinitely on Feb 10 for "Failure to fulfill team obligations".

Blount 2009 season with Oregon: Suspended "for season" after punching Boise St. player in season opener, as well as one of his team-mates who was trying to break up fight. Reinstated on Nov. 14th.

Blount 2014 season with Steelers: arrested (with Le'von Bell) for marijuana possession (suspended for the first game of 2015). Unhappy about his low number of carries, on November 17th, 2014 left the Steelers game against the Titans early, leading to his release by the Steelers, and subsequent re-signing with the Patriots.

There are other ways we could lose Blount other than health, I can't believe he isn't on a short leash with the Patriots. All it would take is one screaming match with McDaniels (let alone doing something like leaving the game early in a snit) and I think it would be "don't let the door hit you on the way out".

zydecochris said:

I agree that we need to pray for Blount's continued health (as well as that of every other Patriot player), but that isn't the only way we could lose him. He has quite a history of clashing with coaches and players and getting suspended.

Blount 2008 season with Oregon: Clashed with Coach Bellotti earning a part game suspension. After missing several workouts, suspended indefinitely on Feb 10 for "Failure to fulfill team obligations".

Blount 2009 season with Oregon: Suspended "for season" after punching Boise St. player in season opener, as well as one of his team-mates who was trying to break up fight. Reinstated on Nov. 14th.

Blount 2014 season with Steelers: arrested (with Le'von Bell) for marijuana possession (suspended for the first game of 2015). Unhappy about his low number of carries, on November 17th, 2014 left the Steelers game against the Titans early, leading to his release by the Steelers, and subsequent re-signing with the Patriots.

There are other ways we could lose Blount other than health, I can't believe he isn't on a short leash with the Patriots. All it would take is one screaming match with McDaniels (let alone doing something like leaving the game early in a snit) and I think it would be "don't let the door hit you on the way out".

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PLEASE. Now you are sounding like ESPN creating a scandal where this is none. Everything you wrote about his college days were well known years ago and cost him a chance at being drafted. So rather than praise the kid for grabbing himself up by the bootstraps and making an NFL team as an UDFA, and then helping the Pats for the better part of 2 seasons and winning a ring, you'd pander to TMZ in yourself and scandal monger. tsk, tsk. Do you want to pillage him for being in the same car as his Steeler weed eater

Some Steeler fans want to make him out to be a bad apple i the Steeler locker room. Maybe Blount after seeing how a "real" organization was run in NE, he took one look at what Tomlim was doing in Pittsburgh and "noticed the difference". You can't hate him for that.

Bottom line; Every day the LaGarrette Blount has been in NE, he's behaved himself, worked hard, and produced on the field beyond expectations. If you don't like his "dreads" ....just say so.

But you couldn't be more right on Marshall. In 2-3 years that kid is going to be a starting CB in this league

Haden, its not even a starter for the Browns to trade. They lose cap space if traded.

zydecochris said:

I agree that we need to pray for Blount's continued health (as well as that of every other Patriot player), but that isn't the only way we could lose him. He has quite a history of clashing with coaches and players and getting suspended.

Blount 2008 season with Oregon: Clashed with Coach Bellotti earning a part game suspension. After missing several workouts, suspended indefinitely on Feb 10 for "Failure to fulfill team obligations".

Blount 2009 season with Oregon: Suspended "for season" after punching Boise St. player in season opener, as well as one of his team-mates who was trying to break up fight. Reinstated on Nov. 14th.

Blount 2014 season with Steelers: arrested (with Le'von Bell) for marijuana possession (suspended for the first game of 2015). Unhappy about his low number of carries, on November 17th, 2014 left the Steelers game against the Titans early, leading to his release by the Steelers, and subsequent re-signing with the Patriots.

There are other ways we could lose Blount other than health, I can't believe he isn't on a short leash with the Patriots. All it would take is one screaming match with McDaniels (let alone doing something like leaving the game early in a snit) and I think it would be "don't let the door hit you on the way out".

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There is no question that Blount has a uneven history.

The guy was traded for a 7th rounder in 2013 and played well and by all accounts was a model citizen here. In FA period in 2014, he wanted to stay badly but just got better $ from Pitt. That happens. After he smoked some dope, fed Tomlin a couple of FUs and got kicked off the team bus and eventually the team, the greatest coach in the last 40 years calls him and tell him that he WANTS him.

I can't explain it but something about this place gets the best out of Blount. Both professionally and personally. Maybe its winning, structure, authority, etc. Who knows but BB and this organization agree with Blount and this place is not Candyland.

Getting Ayers/Casillas/Branch : epic. I'd be surprised (and excited) if anything approaching that came our way. Basically getting production for nothing (draft picks almost equalling the ones NE sent) is amazing.

I brought this up earlier, but i honestly wouldnt be opposed at trading a late rd pick to the Saints to bring Browner back. It doesn't feel like we've turned into a zone coverage team. Why not?

AzorianPats said:

I brought this up earlier, but i honestly wouldnt be opposed at trading a late rd pick to the Saints to bring Browner back. It doesn't feel like we've turned into a zone coverage team. Why not?

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It doesn't feel like that because the Pats haven't.

AzorianPats said:

I brought this up earlier, but i honestly wouldnt be opposed at trading a late rd pick to the Saints to bring Browner back. It doesn't feel like we've turned into a zone coverage team. Why not?

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I would be opposed it. He's not worth close to what he is being payed by the saints. He's a very limited corner that really needs that #1 cb on the other side so you can afford to roll safety suport to his side when he looses coverage. Without a Revis or Sherman on the other side he struggles. He becomes a liability. Sure. He delivers some big hits. But add his penalty yards, and there are a lot of them, to his allowed receiving yards and you won't have a pretty picture.

patfanken said:

PLEASE. Now you are sounding like ESPN creating a scandal where this is none. Everything you wrote about his college days were well known years ago and cost him a chance at being drafted. So rather than praise the kid for grabbing himself up by the bootstraps and making an NFL team as an UDFA, and then helping the Pats for the better part of 2 seasons and winning a ring, you'd pander to TMZ in yourself and scandal monger. tsk, tsk. Do you want to pillage him for being in the same car as his Steeler weed eater

Some Steeler fans want to make him out to be a bad apple i the Steeler locker room. Maybe Blount after seeing how a "real" organization was run in NE, he took one look at what Tomlim was doing in Pittsburgh and "noticed the difference". You can't hate him for that.

Bottom line; Every day the LaGarrette Blount has been in NE, he's behaved himself, worked hard, and produced on the field beyond expectations. If you don't like his "dreads" ....just say so.

But you couldn't be more right on Marshall. In 2-3 years that kid is going to be a starting CB in this league

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OK, fair enough, you make a good point.

I like his dreads fine, he just doesn't fit into my "brilliant" (sarcasm intended) BB Non-KnuckleHead (NKH) theory, which is: that at BB's age (63), with his 6 rings, he has decided that from now on he wants to coach players that are actually, you know, fun to coach, and that is why he has drafted (most on this board would say "over-drafted") a long list of super professional, mature, "coach on the field" types recently, particularly in the secondary (e.g., Richards, Ryan, Harmon, Wilson, McCourtney). That is just talking about the secondary, but overall the players on this team seem to me to be uncommonly smart, professional, and mature. It has to be fun to coach for BB.

Blount and perhaps Branch have done a few knucklehead things in the past, so they don't fit my theory too well, although to be fair, as you pointed out, they have both been model citizens for the Patriots. I guess if the data does not fit the theory, then perhaps the theory needs to be changed, after all, changing the data to fit a pre-conceived theory is what happened in the Wells Report.