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Deflategate karma continues.....ESPN is losing subscribers, costing them a quarter billion dollars


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Only the old timers with absolutely no tech savvy still use cable. You can use live stream to get whatever sports you want and there's absolutely nothing else I care to watch on cable that I can't get on Netflix or find for free on the internet.

Cable TV is a lumbering dinosaur like printed newspapers. This crappy "yellow journalism" is their last desperate effort to stay relevant.
Yeah, I love searching through euro-pirate sites that are constantly being taken down, then once I find it watching the game with constant popovers and overloaded skipping low resolution streams. Even better if I have to install a virus or two in order to watch or have the stream interrupted due to DMCA complaint right at the most important part. That's tech Savvy!
 
That's the real problem. Too few choices for internet providers. In central MA you get to choose between Verizon or Charter (and they both are overpriced and suck).
Correction: in MOST of central MA, you get EITHER Verizon or Charter, but you don't get to choose which.
 
Only the old timers with absolutely no tech savvy still use cable. You can use live stream to get whatever sports you want and there's absolutely nothing else I care to watch on cable that I can't get on Netflix or find for free on the internet.

Cable TV is a lumbering dinosaur like printed newspapers. This crappy "yellow journalism" is their last desperate effort to stay relevant.

FYI....there are a lot of "old timers" that are far more savvy than you are technology-wise....who do you think invented this stuff? :D

Yeah, I love searching through euro-pirate sites that are constantly being taken down, then once I find it watching the game with constant popovers and overloaded skipping low resolution streams. Even better if I have to install a virus or two in order to watch or have the stream interrupted due to DMCA complaint right at the most important part. That's tech Savvy!

Well said PatriotsReign! I contributed a small amount to fiber optic wavelength multiplexing technology (which is important to high speed internet) back in the 80's, but now as a physics professor I understand plenty of the tech principles but I'm a complete dummy when it comes to some of the stuff YOUGOTMOSSED is talking about. I didn't grow up with an IPAD under my pillow like many of the youngsters. Bobbutts, my experience in trying to watch sports on cable is similar to yours, streams being interrupted, viruses, etc.

Along those line, YOUGOTMOSSED or one of you other brilliant tech savvy youngsters: Could you give me a clear simple explanation of how to watch Patriots games on the internet for a non-local? Currently the best I can do is watch one of those horrendous blurry pirated live streams (with all of the problems that bobbutts pointed out) and then watch the game next day on NFL Gamepass. I don't mind paying some money to accomplish this (although I would rather not pay a king's random to the evil empire that tried to destroy TB), but it is difficult for me to figure out who is legit and who is not. Many of these internet sites want me to download some type of special viewer, and that makes me nervous, I don't want to have my computer taken over by Chinese hackers. Can one of you youngsters give an "old timer" some help? :D
 
Good. Hope it continues. I've been telling people who get worked up over ESPN articles, just stop clicking. And unless the pats are playing Monday night don't watch the station. That's the best way as opposed to posting links here and getting all worked up.
 
Well said PatriotsReign! I contributed a small amount to fiber optic wavelength multiplexing technology (which is important to high speed internet) back in the 80's, but now as a physics professor I understand plenty of the tech principles but I'm a complete dummy when it comes to some of the stuff YOUGOTMOSSED is talking about. I didn't grow up with an IPAD under my pillow like many of the youngsters. Bobbutts, my experience in trying to watch sports on cable is similar to yours, streams being interrupted, viruses, etc.

Along those line, YOUGOTMOSSED or one of you other brilliant tech savvy youngsters: Could you give me a clear simple explanation of how to watch Patriots games on the internet for a non-local? Currently the best I can do is watch one of those horrendous blurry pirated live streams (with all of the problems that bobbutts pointed out) and then watch the game next day on NFL Gamepass. I don't mind paying some money to accomplish this (although I would rather not pay a king's random to the evil empire that tried to destroy TB), but it is difficult for me to figure out who is legit and who is not. Many of these internet sites want me to download some type of special viewer, and that makes me nervous, I don't want to have my computer taken over by Chinese hackers. Can one of you youngsters give an "old timer" some help? :D

Suggesting that I am a "brilliant tech savvy youngster" is giving me waaaaaaay too much credit.

I have used this streaming link to watch live games:

http://www.stream2watch.co/

Haven't detected any virus problems so far but I do "hard wipe" my laptop from time to time as a precaution.

Hope this helps.
 
Suggesting that I am a "brilliant tech savvy youngster" is giving me waaaaaaay too much credit.

I have used this streaming link to watch live games:

http://www.stream2watch.co/

Haven't detected any virus problems so far but I do "hard wipe" my laptop from time to time as a precaution.

Hope this helps.

Great, thanks!
 
Karma is a ***** ain't it? :cool:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollyw...million-subscribers-floats-streaming-service/

I hope someone at ESPN gets fired for this....preferably Chris Mortensen :D
What a shame, huh?

On a serious note, ESPN is stuck with an outmoded delivery model for its content and, obviously, Disney management has not planned for the Network's "next stage" in an adequate manner.

On a vindictive note, anybody on this Board who subscribes to ESPN Insider should cancel their subscription; that's one of the alternative revenue streams that it would be nice to see dry up. Every little bit helps and folks can use the money they saved to host a party when ESPN collapses or is substantially downsized.
 
Haven't detected any virus problems so far but I do "hard wipe" my laptop from time to time as a precaution.

Hope this helps.
Set up a virtual environment, watch from there and remove/wipe when done. little to no chance to infect your main system.
 
keep in mind this is the same company (Disney) that recently threatened thei soon to be laid off workers with black balling them, if they did not stick around and train the foreign workers that Disney hired to replace him.

http://100percentfedup.com/disney-w...eign-worker-replace-forego-severance-package/

I can only hope we will soon see Christobal Montenegro replacing Mortenson

Wow that's seriously effed up. I hope their workers purposely trained the incoming employees to do the wrong stuff and screw everything up.
 
Correction: in MOST of central MA, you get EITHER Verizon or Charter, but you don't get to choose which.
I am stuck with Charter. What a god-awful cable provider. HATE IT
 
I hope they burn in hell, all of them, from the CEO to the last one that mops the floors. I understand there are "innocents" and all but, life is tough. F$K EPN
 
I am stuck with Charter. What a god-awful cable provider. HATE IT
Hey, it could be worse. The Comcast merger could have gone through in which case you'd have Comcast with their stealth data caps on 'unlimited' data. At least Charter doesn't do that. My major complaint against Charter is their reliability.
 
Hey, it could be worse. The Comcast merger could have gone through in which case you'd have Comcast with their stealth data caps on 'unlimited' data. At least Charter doesn't do that. My major complaint against Charter is their reliability.
True. Charter is so flaky for TV.

I will admit that their internet services have greatly improved.
 
How can we help this along? I'd love to be able to untangle ESPN from the tier of packaging that it is automatically linked to. Perhaps a call to my provider will help (though unlikely).
Who's your cable provider? Lots of providers are offering lower cost tiers without ESPN to try to win back cordcutters.
 
"Nevertheless, Disney Chairman Bob Iger is also talking about offering ESPN a la carte, as a live steaming channel.
And here’s where the scope and breadth of the bundled cable con really hits home.
Analysts believe that in order for ESPN to continue its current revenue stream, the streaming subscription monthly cost would need to be $30, or five times the $6 the sports network is currently charging."

LOL! It will be a cold day in hell before a give ESPN a single penny for that sh*tshow of a network.

Which essentially means "we fully realize that 80% of the people who pay for our channel don't actually want it".
 
What a shame, huh?

On a serious note, ESPN is stuck with an outmoded delivery model for its content and, obviously, Disney management has not planned for the Network's "next stage" in an adequate manner.

On a vindictive note, anybody on this Board who subscribes to ESPN Insider should cancel their subscription; that's one of the alternative revenue streams that it would be nice to see dry up. Every little bit helps and folks can use the money they saved to host a party when ESPN collapses or is substantially downsized.

ESPN apparently thought it was a good business idea to launch a smear campaign against an iconic sports figure in Boston, which has a pretty substantial fanbase. Let's hope the blowback from this leads to their demise.
 
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Wow that's seriously effed up. I hope their workers purposely trained the incoming employees to do the wrong stuff and screw everything up.

No need to go that far. Even when you do train them correctly they screw it up.
 
Isn't ESPN playing with "free" subscriber money? I believe they get theirs regardless if one watches their channel(s) or not. This might be likened to the taxpayer who pays for that new stadium, regardless if they are sports-minded or not. Perhaps, people should stop going along with this; call them out for cheating?
Yes, that's exactly why many of us have become cable cutters, we hate the idea of "if you want some things you have to pay for all kinds of other things you don't want".

ESPN is probably the biggest beneficiary of this bundling scam, beyond the cable outfits themselves. Sports fans are vocal but in the end are a minority of the subscribers, and a lot of the non-sports fans end up subsidizing them. In turn this has allowed ESPN to participate in the bidding wars for NFL content that has created the huge TV deals the NFL enjoys, and in turn, allows for huge player salaries. It's a tightly wound knot, but it could all come undone pretty quickly.

On a serious note, ESPN is stuck with an outmoded delivery model for its content
To ESPN it's the goose laying the golden eggs. It's very hard to find a way to transition from the current model to another one, and it seems they might have to do so very soon.
 
True. Charter is so flaky for TV.

I will admit that their internet services have greatly improved.

Considering it used to go out every third day for a minimum 3 hours for no reason? Yeah.

I think mine's been up two or three months straight now.
 
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