Update; Kravitz Crying Mercy To Curran re: Baltz

Wordsmyth · Sep 18, 2015

Halifax_Pats_Fan said:
This Bob guy just throws crap the NE wall...sees what sticks...then says "i am not going to get into it" on social media...that is a real coward to me....

The apex of passive-aggressive dumbfarkery.

Wordsmyth · Sep 18, 2015

BradyFTW! said:
Moral of the story that Kravitz is being deliberately stupid about: if every provable/disprovable point of someone's story is proven to be fabricated ********, then the whole story should be regarded as such.

Somehow people like Kravitz manage to miss that point here, but they'll be the first to claim that Brady claiming he didn't know McNally and/or 'destroying' his phone proves his guilt under a much flimsier, dumber, axe-grinding application of the same general principle.

Precisely. Such is the pinnacle of the blind rage that drives all conspiracy-mongers and tinfoil-hat specialists.

Wax Frog · Sep 18, 2015

Canuck said:
Thanks to Brady for fighting for justice and what was right and not rolling over for Goodell and his propaganda machine.

Fighting for truth, justice and the Patriot way?

Koma · Sep 18, 2015

Thursday - Kravitz publishes his story about Baltz encountering McNally 10-15 times and finding his behavior suspicious. Shortly after the story goes public, huge holes are blown in it, particularly the number of Patriots games Baltz worked.

Friday - Kravitz claims he did his "research" (Here's a hint: If he really did it before writing the story, he would have been prepared for the backlash on Thursday, not a day later) and Baltz did work 10 Patriots games if you go back far enough. His story gets blown apart again because the games Baltz worked between 1989 and 1999 are irrelevant to this story, unless Kravitz is claiming Carroll, Parcells, McPherson, Rust and Berry were all cheating.

If Kravitz was a fictional character and did this, people would find his actions unbelievable.

XLIX · Sep 18, 2015

MitchKumstein said:
Why do these media clowns continue to throw out misleading (ie lying) stories about the Patriots?

Because their job is to attract readers, draw clicks, and gain attention to themselves and their publications. Their job is not to fairly and accurately report the truth and facts regarding these sorts of things.

Wax Frog · Sep 18, 2015

Mostly-OT - is Baltz any relation to Deez Nuts?

Marko · Sep 18, 2015

What this whole story tell me, is that all those years we thought we were getting hosed by the officials during Colts games, we were right!

smg93 · Sep 19, 2015

Koma said:
His story gets blown apart again because the games Baltz worked between 1989 and 1999 are irrelevant to this story, unless Kravitz is claiming Carroll, Parcells, McPherson, Rust and Berry were all cheating.

Allow me to add that McNally only started working at Gillette in 2008 - the year Brady was injured.

DarrylS · Sep 19, 2015

Zeus said:
My suspiscion is that what kravitz did here parallels Don Van Natta. Find somebody with an axe to grind against the Patirots and have them relate a 10 year old anecdote that has grown ever more distant from the truth with each retelling on a day by day basis.

"It is more probable than not" that this is the basis for Kravitz vitriol... needs to keep it going, after all he still believes the Pats did something wrong.

RayClay · Sep 19, 2015

OK children. If a story says possibly fifteen times and the actual amount of Brady home games the ref worked was three, by what factor was the article wrong? That's right, 5. That's a lot of wrongness, isn't it?

Peachhead · Sep 19, 2015

Isn't Bob Kravitz the guy who lived across from Samantha Stevens (the "witch") in Bewitched? The guy with the really nosy, annoying wife?

shmessy · Sep 19, 2015

Bob KravitzVerified account‏@bkravitz
Bob Kravitz retweeted Bs106
Boston media said he lied abt # of gms he worked in foxboro - he did not - not saying pre2008 gms are relevant

Tom E. Curran @tomecurran
Baltz: "I probably did 10 to 15 games up there and those first few times, he’d always ask..." That's misleading. https://twitter.com/bkravitz/status/645325383211065344…

raduray · Sep 19, 2015

Curran's still dishing it out.

Tom E. Curran@tomecurran
You keep spinning how "Boston media" got it wrong, I'll keep helping you understand why it seems your guy misled

Tom E. Curran@tomecurran
Baltz: "I probably did 10 to 15 games up there and those first few times, he’d always ask..." That's misleading.

Bob Kravitz@bkravitz
Boston media said he lied abt # of gms he worked in foxboro - he did not - not saying pre2008 gms are relevant

shmessy · Sep 19, 2015

raduray said:
Bob Kravitz@bkravitz
Boston media said he lied abt # of gms he worked in foxboro - he did not - not saying pre2008 gms are relevant

Kravitz writes for an Indiana audience, hence he can get away with misleading reporting - - they simply do not have the education to parse it out.

What he wrote in that tweet is complete misdirection - - the argument is not about how many games Baltz did in his career in Foxboro, yet Kravitz still tries to make that the issue.

He cannot get away with that kind of trick on an educated audience. Kravitz is simply not used to, or prepared for, that.

Ian · Sep 19, 2015

raduray said:
Curran's still dishing it out.

Tom E. Curran@tomecurran
You keep spinning how "Boston media" got it wrong, I'll keep helping you understand why it seems your guy misled

Tom E. Curran@tomecurran
Baltz: "I probably did 10 to 15 games up there and those first few times, he’d always ask..." That's misleading.

Bob Kravitz@bkravitz
Boston media said he lied abt # of gms he worked in foxboro - he did not - not saying pre2008 gms are relevant

Quick side not, you can put just the link here and it will show the Tweet, I fixed that the other night

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shmessy · Sep 19, 2015

Tom E. Curran @tomecurran
McNally began as locker room guy in 08. Two decades after Baltz' "first few times" in Foxboro. https://twitter.com/pats4iifebb/status/645337787605078016…
Tom E. Curran @tomecurran
You keep spinning how "Boston media" got it wrong, I'll keep helping you understand why it seems your guy misled https://twitter.com/bkravitz/status/645325383211065344…

raduray · Sep 19, 2015

Ian said:
You can put just the link here and it will show the Tweet, I fixed that the other night:

I tried that, but it did not include the Kravitz tweet he was responding to. I suppose I could have copied and pasted all three links

shmessy · Sep 19, 2015

raduray said:
I tried that, but it did not include the Kravitz tweet he was responding to. I suppose I could have copied and pasted all three links

Same with me.

Ian · Sep 19, 2015

raduray said:
I tried that, but it did not include the Kravitz tweet he was responding to. I suppose I could have copied and pasted all three links

Ah, good call. You're right, had he acknowledged Curran and replied it would have. Now, instead, he's trying to switch it up and talk about 'Black Mass'

shmessy · Sep 19, 2015

Mr.Quindazzi‏@MrQuindazzi
@tomecurran So,bottom line- how many games where TB,McNally, and Baltz were allat Foxboro for a game?

Tom E. Curran @tomecurran
It seems 3. https://twitter.com/mrquindazzi/status/645343767701098496…

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