Publicly Accusing Fellow Teams is Against NFL Bylaws

Similar to publicly criticizing refs, teams are not allowed to make random accusations against other teams per article IX of the bylaw. Makes sense given rationale leadership would want to protect the brand. What a mess the NFL is. Makes sense teams feel they can do this given the NFL's own inappropriate behavior and lack of integrity:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...d-lightly-when-complaining-about-other-teams/

The NFL is such a JOKE. Doing long term harm to credibility, fan support, and trust in the game.



Also another head scratcher: The NFL will only do random tests of game balls, with *giving notice* before games and not even assessing temperature either. So is PSI important, or is it not ??
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/09/12/nfl-will-test-psi-on-a-random-basis-only/

As much as I want BB and TB here forever its almost like I want them to win a couple more and get it over with so I can turn this garbage off for good.

All of this is going to ruin all sports. Kids are going to see pros acting like this and assume its acceptable behavior.

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Bruins29 said:

As much as I want BB and TB here forever its almost like I want them to win a couple more and get it over with so I can turn this garbage off for good.

All of this is going to ruin all sports. Kids are going to see pros acting like this and assume its acceptable behavior.

sad

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Do you really think it goes away?

More noise needs to be made about this.

robertweathers said:

Do you really think it goes away?

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What goes away? The childish behavior and excuses from everyone? No, it wont go away in todays society. It will get worse.

But I am going to go away.

DropKickFlutie said:

The NFL will only do random tests of game balls, with *giving notice* before games and not even assessing temperature either. So is PSI important, or is it not ??
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/09/12/nfl-will-test-psi-on-a-random-basis-only/

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They don't want anything that could disprove the justification for the punishment.

So is gauging a football by anyone besides the referees.

Fencer said:

They don't want anything that could disprove the justification for the punishment.

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Yes, what a farce. Two things:
- I am certain actual tracking of PSI (not the NFL's joke method) will absolve the Patriots of the core lie that any man-made deflation even occurred. The ideal gas law already shows inflating a game ball at 12.5PSI indoors at 70 degrees will become 11.47 PSI outside in 50 degree weather.

- I am no lawyer but wouldn't the NFL's lack of enforcement, and lack of punishment of teams publicly accusing the Patriots, be more evidence for a possible defamation case? The NFL is both actively violating as well as not enforcing its own bylaws about public accusations. Even for bad refs, the league still fines coaches and teams who criticize refs to media....

DropKickFlutie said:

Yes, what a farce. Two things:
- I am certain actual tracking of PSI (not the NFL's joke method) will absolve the Patriots of the core lie that any man-made deflation even occurred. The ideal gas law already shows inflating a game ball at 12.5PSI indoors at 70 degrees will become 11.47 PSI outside in 50 degree weather.

- I am no lawyer but wouldn't the NFL's lack of enforcement, and lack of punishment of teams publicly accusing the Patriots, be more evidence for a possible defamation case? The NFL is both violating as well as not enforcing their own bylaws about public accusations. Even for bad refs, the league still fines coaches and teams who criticize refs to media....

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Unfortunately, the Patriots' main recourse is to complain to the league office. So suppose the league office says "You're right", and orders the other 31 teams to stop publicly accusing the Patriots of cheating. What exactly is gained?

Fencer said:

Unfortunately, the Patriots' main recourse is to complain to the league office. So suppose the league office says "You're right", and orders the other 31 teams to stop publicly accusing the Patriots of cheating. What exactly is gained?

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You stop the flow of defamation and myth making damaging the league brand and the Patriots brand. I'm not just advocating that teams stop it - I'm also asking why teams haven't been publicly fined by the league yet, similar to how teams and coaches are fined for trashing game officiating.

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Fencer said:

Unfortunately, the Patriots' main recourse is to complain to the league office. So suppose the league office says "You're right", and orders the other 31 teams to stop publicly accusing the Patriots of cheating. What exactly is gained?

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Complaining to the same office that is your number one enemy is idiotic. Either the pats take the NFL to court or they put up with it.

DropKickFlutie said:

Similar to publicly criticizing refs, teams are not allowed to make random accusations against other teams per article IX of the bylaw. Makes sense given rationale leadership would want to protect the brand. What a mess the NFL is. Makes sense teams feel they can do this given the NFL's own inappropriate behavior and lack of integrity:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...d-lightly-when-complaining-about-other-teams/

The NFL is such a JOKE. Doing long term harm to credibility, fan support, and trust in the game.



Also another head scratcher: The NFL will only do random tests of game balls, with *giving notice* before games and not even assessing temperature either. So is PSI important, or is it not ??
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/09/12/nfl-will-test-psi-on-a-random-basis-only/

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First point, very interesting. 2nd point lol. Random, wet, dry, hot, cold, gauges, etc. Ball testing is a farce by default. Under the current regime, it's a Benny Hill chase.

Observer said:

Complaining to the same office that is your number one enemy is idiotic. Either the pats take the NFL to court or they put up with it.

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DropKickFlutie said:

You stop the flow of defamation and myth making damaging the league brand and the Patriots brand. I'm not just advocating that teams stop it - I'm also asking why teams haven't been publicly fined by the league yet, similar to how teams and coaches are fined for trashing game officiating.

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My view is somewhere inbetween these two. If the Pats fire a broadside at the league office, with complaints about many difference instances of defamation, especially from within league HQ, then I think a PR win can be gained from that.

If they do it in dribs and drabs, however, then my previous negative comment applies.

A vendetta is a vendetta! Rules make little difference while in the midst of a holy crusade!

DropKickFlutie said:

Yes, what a farce. Two things:
- I am certain actual tracking of PSI (not the NFL's joke method) will absolve the Patriots of the core lie that any man-made deflation even occurred. The ideal gas law already shows inflating a game ball at 12.5PSI indoors at 70 degrees will become 11.47 PSI outside in 50 degree weather.

- I am no lawyer but wouldn't the NFL's lack of enforcement, and lack of punishment of teams publicly accusing the Patriots, be more evidence for a possible defamation case? The NFL is both actively violating as well as not enforcing its own bylaws about public accusations. Even for bad refs, the league still fines coaches and teams who criticize refs to media....

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I would hope the Pats would make a public statement that they will not accept any PSI findings published by the NFL* where there is not a Patriots representative present for the entire evolution.

Factually, I personally don't have enough information to make that determination, but Jeffrey Lurie likes child porn. (Yes, I'm using his own template, so no slander, right?)

The Gr8est said:

I would hope the Pats would make a public statement that they will not accept any PSI findings published by the NFL* where there is not a Patriots representative present for the entire evolution.

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You would hope in vain. Pats Vichy mgmnt will do no such rebellion against their NYJFL masters.

Patstopia said:

A vendetta is a vendetta! Rules make little difference while in the midst of a holy crusade!

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Even in games where officials make egregiously bad calls, pro leagues fine coaches and teams for complaining about bad refs. Reason is that above all, the league brand and belief in the league are most important. The entire reign of Goodell is a case study in how to destroy a brand and also core positive beliefs and confidence in the entire sport. This is going to hurt the league eventually.

People point to league growth since 2005 but I think a space monkey could have run the league and it still would have grown. Isn't it mostly a timing thing - huge growth of fantasy football, social media, online blogs and sporting news, uptake of smart phones, and great TV deals on non-cable channels - all of these things drove the NFL the past decade more than anything this pathetic commissioner has actually done.

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I don't want the team to complain about other teams complaining about them; I want the team to focus on football. Rules enforcement has obviously been arbitrary under this commissioner, but that's a fight for another venue. Raising enforcement of petty rules will likely end similarly to the Revis tampering case. Whatever -- all this litigiousness only detracts from the game anyway.

Bruins29 said:

As much as I want BB and TB here forever its almost like I want them to win a couple more and get it over with so I can turn this garbage off for good.

All of this is going to ruin all sports. Kids are going to see pros acting like this and assume its acceptable behavior.

sad

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...But they're teaching them "integrity"