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Rob0729 · Sep 11, 2015

Ben VolinVerified account‏@BenVolin
#Steelers confirm that they have not and won't file a complaint about the headsets

Oswlek · Sep 11, 2015

lillloyd said:
Ah, got it. Yeah I thought he was a Boston beat reporter, hence the confusion.

It may help to know that most Boston reporters actually loathe the Patriots. Tom Curran, Mike Reiss and Chris Price are about the only writers in the area that seem to enjoy following the team.

Hammer of Thor · Sep 11, 2015

Rob0729 said:
Ben VolinVerified account‏@BenVolin
#Steelers confirm that they have not and won't file a complaint about the headsets

When Shefter reported that, I still wasn't sure about it. But now that Volin's backing him up, i now confidently can believe that info....

Deus Irae · Sep 11, 2015

lillloyd said:
Deus -- I've seen the tape from last night, and most of his pressers generally.

I'm saying 1) I don't see where he is blaming the loss on the headsets and 2) he is historically pretty blunt in his assessments of the performance of his team, his coaching staff, and himself. I think if you were a fly on a wall in the Steelers' meeting rooms this morning, you'd hear Tomlin and a bunch of coaches talking about how they were outcoached and outplayed. I think that if the media asked him point blank why Pittsburgh lost, he would not answer "headsets" but rather they were outplayed and outcoached, and that several units were "below the line".

Just my opinion though.

Tomlin was implying that it's done purposefully at Gillette, not that it cost him the game. After the piss poor job of coaching done by the Steelers, I don't think he'd have dared actually blaming the loss on headsets.

lillloyd · Sep 11, 2015

Oswlek said:
It may help to know that most Boston reporters actually loathe the Patriots. Tom Curran, Mike Reiss and Chris Price are about the only writers in the area that seem to enjoy following the team.

In Pittsburgh there are reporters who seem to go out of their way to distinguish themselves as NOT being 'homers', like that's their schtick, a way to distinguish themselves from the rest of the reporting pack (and maybe generate more clicks or listens due to controversy, I don't know). I don't know if that's what happens in Boston.

Hammer of Thor · Sep 11, 2015

Oswlek said:
It may help to know that most Boston reporters actually loathe the Patriots. Tom Curran, Mike Reiss and Chris Price are about the only writers in the area that seem to enjoy following the team.

Which plays a part in why the Patriots Are The Worst Cheaters In The NFL was able to take off to begin with. These guys were upset at Belichick's media relationship, and took this as an opportunity to get back at him.

raduray · Sep 11, 2015

MagicMarker said:
This is just like the IGL stuff...It's science. Most people (media included) don't understand it, so it's easy to spin it way off of what it really is.

It sounds to me like the Patriots radio broadcast was bleeding through. For that to happen, someone would have to know what frequency the headsets were on and broadcast at that frequency. They'd have to do this all the while someone from the NFL was monitoring ALL frequencies to make sure something wasn't happening.

It also sounds like if anybody is worried about the other team doing anything like this, all they'd need to do is take a 100 foot cord and hard wire it so they don't have to worry about any wireless communications would interfere.

Sounds like NFL teams feel they're free to state any accusation against the Patriots now without any reprisal.

There's so much that's unclear. From a 'geeky' perspective:

Was Tomlin hearing the Patriots Coaches or Zolak and Co.?
If Zolak, how does that signal even get near the headset system for "crosstalk"?
Crosstalk can happen across very short distances if the shields around the adjacent signal wires are not grounded. That has nothing to do with "power infrastructure".
If headsets were encrypted, as I've seen reported elsewhere, unauthorized signals should not get through.
Tomlin's claim that the problems went away when the NFL officials were nearby reminds me of the old days when you could improve the TV reception by standing next to the rabbit ears (you have to be of a certain age to get this one).

Ross12 · Sep 11, 2015

Hammer of Thor said:
When Shefter reported that, I still wasn't sure about it. But now that Volin's backing him up, i now confidently can believe that info....

Volin sees Schefter's tweet and immediately googles about it. His first result is a link to Schefter's tweet. Volin reports "sources confirm Adam Schefter's tweet"

FreeTedWilliams · Sep 11, 2015

raduray said:
There's so much that's unclear. From a 'geeky' perspective:

Was Tomlin hearing the Patriots Coaches or Zolak and Co.?

If Zolak, how does that signal even get near the headset system for "crosstalk"?

Crosstalk can happen across very short distances if the shields around the adjacent signal wires are not grounded. That has nothing to do with "power infrastructure".

If headsets were encrypted, as I've seen reported elsewhere, unauthorized signals should not get through.

Tomlin's claim that the problems went away when the NFL officials were nearby reminds me of the old days when you could improve the TV reception by standing next to the rabbit ears (you have to be of a certain age to get this one).

It was the coach to coach system, so it could easily happen between the coaches up in the press box, and the Pats radio play by play guys, also in the press box. Again, if you wanted to screw with a team, you would mess up their coach to QB system (like the Pats' system was last night).

Tomlin knows he made a huge mistake saying what he said, and got defensive quickly after a minute or two after he realized what he had done. He was seriously out coached last night and was probably should have kept his mouth shut

lillloyd · Sep 11, 2015

raduray said:
There's so much that's unclear. From a 'geeky' perspective:

Was Tomlin hearing the Patriots Coaches or Zolak and Co.?

If Zolak, how does that signal even get near the headset system for "crosstalk"?

Crosstalk can happen across very short distances if the shields around the adjacent signal wires are not grounded. That has nothing to do with "power infrastructure".

If headsets were encrypted, as I've seen reported elsewhere, unauthorized signals should not get through.

Tomlin's claim that the problems went away when the NFL officials were nearby reminds me of the old days when you could improve the TV reception by standing next to the rabbit ears (you have to be of a certain age to get this one).

You'd think at a minimum that NFL sidelines would have wired systems on standby for backup.

Tomlin stated he was hearing Zolak's broadcast. Which I find endlessly amusing even as a Steelers fan. (Maybe THAT is why Tomlin was so irritated - he was hearing the the Pats' announcing crew laughing at their Antonio Brown gadget play).

Rob0729 · Sep 11, 2015

Hammer of Thor said:
When Shefter reported that, I still wasn't sure about it. But now that Volin's backing him up, i now confidently can believe that info....

Would have quoted Schefter if I saw it. I hated quoting Volin.

Sciz · Sep 11, 2015

Between wrongfully accusing the Patriots of foul play and putting that shoddy product on the field for Steelers fans to watch, I'm not sure even the long week is enough time for Tomlin to write all of the apology speeches he should be giving.

lillloyd · Sep 11, 2015

Deus Irae said:
Tomlin was implying that it's done purposefully at Gillette, not that it cost him the game. After the piss poor job of coaching done by the Steelers, I don't think he'd have dared actually blaming the loss on headsets.

And here is where we can agree Deus:

It would have been better for Pitt if the headsets had just stayed broken --less of the coaches' play calls would have made it through!

The Boston Patriot · Sep 11, 2015

hwc said:
Thorough review, huh? Sounds like a job for someone independent like Ted Wells.

Quoteing the late Everett Dirksen: :A billion here, a billion there, and pretty soon you're talking about real money."

FirstAndGoal · Sep 11, 2015

Damage has already been done. This will be written about for the next 10 years as if it were something the Pats did.

Palm Beach Pats Fan · Sep 11, 2015

One point everyone seems to miss: The NFL changed vendors for communications equipment, Motorola to Bose, this year. One media guy recognized it:

Babe Laufenberg
‏@BabeLaufenberg
Take note. Steelers head set problems will not be confined to just NE home games. New system in place. My understanding it is not a good one

edit: Babe was wrong. Bose took over the headset contract a year ago.

SVN · Sep 11, 2015

Britt McHenry ‏@BrittMcHenry 12m12 minutes ago
Rams HC Jeff Fisher didn't want to comment on the New England situation, but said where they usually have headset problems is in Oakland

juny · Sep 11, 2015

Palm Beach Pats Fan said:
One point everyone seems to miss: The NFL changed vendors for communications equipment, Motorola to Bose, this year. One media guy recognized it:

Babe Laufenberg
‏@BabeLaufenberg
Take note. Steelers head set problems will not be confined to just NE home games. New system in place. My understanding it is not a good one

I thought Bose started last year (hence the ban on Beats headphones by players on camera). Anyway, new system w/ bugs

VectorPrime · Sep 11, 2015

SVN said:
Britt McHenry ‏@BrittMcHenry 12m12 minutes ago
Rams HC Jeff Fisher didn't want to comment on the New England situation, but said where they usually have headset problems is in Oakland

So that makes Jeff Fisher an Tony Dungy , two coaches who the Patriots have owned constantly, who've come out to say that there is no issue here. Add in Ron Rivera and thats 3 coaches to 1 Mike Tomlin

Ice_Ice_Brady · Sep 11, 2015

SVN said:
Britt McHenry ‏@BrittMcHenry 12m12 minutes ago
Rams HC Jeff Fisher didn't want to comment on the New England situation, but said where they usually have headset problems is in Oakland

In other news, Britt McHenry is sleeping with Jeff Fisher.

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