Game From 1992 John Madden Says Teams Usually Videotape Your Signal Calling

Jetssuck · Sep 8, 2015

Was there a rule about videotaping signals passed between 1992 and 2001 that we don't know about? From listening to John Madden's comments from 1992, videotaping signals appears to be standard operating procedure.

Jump to around 1:46:30 in the video to hear Madden's comments.

JMC00 · Sep 8, 2015

Someone needs to just cut that part out, re-upload it to a site other than youtube and just flame post that link everywhere.

ViperGTS · Sep 8, 2015

Right around 1:47. Video of the Skins coaches sending in hand signals. Cannot be more clearly stated that what Madden said.

dales804 · Sep 8, 2015

Excellent video/audio. Wonder why Madden didn't make it out to be some big deal about cheating? Oh, because it's not and never was.

fair catch fryar · Sep 8, 2015

Wow. He begins saying it right at 1:47:00

DaBruinz · Sep 8, 2015

I really wish that one of Howe, Price or Reiss would take this link and throw it over to one of the bigger names and say "Feast your eyes on this.. Particularly at 1:47"

juny · Sep 8, 2015

DaBruinz said:
I really wish that one of Howe, Price or Reiss would take this link and throw it over to one of the bigger names and say "Feast your eyes on this.. Particularly at 1:47"

Send it to Florio too

Oswlek · Sep 8, 2015

Someone be sure to download it before the NFL files a copyright claim.

Big-T · Sep 8, 2015

PFT are doing a live call in right now, someone try calling in and playing the audio down the line?

Jetssuck · Sep 8, 2015

Oswlek said:
Someone be sure to download it before the NFL files a copyright claim.

I have it saved. I've considered editing it down to just the important part and uploading it to youtube. I think just a minute of one game would be considered fair use.

The Brandon Five · Sep 8, 2015

Jetssuck said:
Was there a rule about videotaping signals passed between 1992 and 2001 that we don't know about? From listening to John Madden's comments from 1992, videotaping signals appears to be standard operating procedure.

Jump to around 1:46:30 in the video to hear Madden's comments.

It was until September 6, 2006.

JMC00 · Sep 8, 2015

Right to the point version

sevengables_2207 · Sep 8, 2015

The frustrating thing about this is that JJ went on record circa 2007 as saying that all teams do/did this yet the meme from the BSPN/NYJFL is that the Patriots are the only team doing this.

I mean, you have got to be living in a fantasy never-land to believe that the other 31 teams do not try to get competitive advantages by any means necessary (e.g. gamesmanship) by deploying similar tactics.

Oswlek · Sep 8, 2015

This is the first time I've seen something that could legitimately change the narrative nationally. I hope Curran uses every ounce of good will that he has with Florio to get it posted on PFT. Having it played prior to this week's game would be even better, but I'll take what I can get.

DaBruinz · Sep 8, 2015

juny said:
Send it to Florio too

Give me his email address.

fumbrunner · Sep 8, 2015

I'm sure there are other references. Bill Cowher for example.

http://triblive.com/sports/steelers/5423839-74/cowher-patriots-game#axzz3lAWiEdZh

Lets start a nice collection of these.

fumbrunner · Sep 8, 2015

...and jimmy johnson

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2008/1/30/72831/9115

Hammer of Thor · Sep 8, 2015

fumbrunner said:
I'm sure there are other references. Bill Cowher for example.

http://triblive.com/sports/steelers/5423839-74/cowher-patriots-game#axzz3lAWiEdZh

Lets start a nice collection of these.

To be fair, Cowher never said he taped, he just had people trying to steal signals other ways.

Whereas Jimmy did say he taped.

The latter can be used to defend the videotaping allegations. The former just falls in the category of everybody is trying to steal signals somehow.

Palm Beach Pats Fan · Sep 8, 2015

DaBruinz said:
Give me his email address.

[email protected]

FCEastside · Sep 8, 2015

Here's another edit, so you can see the guys signaling. Never done this before hope it works!

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