Has Goodell's situation become untenable?

eagle eye · Sep 3, 2015

After yet another defeat in court and with the millions of hard earned owners' dollars spent on this one I pose the question....

Will Roger Goodell be fired?

RobertWeathers · Sep 3, 2015

eagle eye said:
After yet another defeat in court and with the millions of hard earned owners' dollars spent on this one I pose the question....

Will Roger Goodell be fired?

If he wants to save his job, he needs to make organizational changes.
-Get rid of the people who failed him (Wells, Pash, Vincent, etc).
-Extricate himself from all disciplinary activity.
-Work with the NFLPA collaboratively on a Personal Conduct Policy that is fair.
-Make more money for the owners.

He needs to be strategic and shrewd here.

Maybe only then can he can survive.

Ironman44 · Sep 3, 2015

He simply miss manages crisis...does everything else awesome...he's terrible at managing crisis...he makes the NFL look bad time and again. This could have been a simple equipment violation and it turned into a nuclear winter apocalyptic circus.
As per league rules this could have been dealt with the week of the superbowl. Team gets monetary fine. Trainer suspended for a few games. case close, there is precedence for it...but no...miss management 101

makoute · Sep 3, 2015

If he wasn't fired after Ray Rice, I doubt he would be now.

Kontradiction · Sep 3, 2015

robertweathers said:
If he wants to save his job, he needs to make organizational changes.
-Get rid of the people who failed him (Wells, Pash, Vincent, etc).
-Extricate himself from all disciplinary activity.
-Work with the NFLPA collaboratively on a Personal Conduct Policy that is fair.
-Make more money for the owners.

He needs to be strategic and shrewd here.

Maybe only then can he can survive.

He basically needs to do the smart thing. Don't count on that.

zydecochris · Sep 3, 2015

Ironman44 said:
He simply miss manages crisis...does everything else awesome...he's terrible at managing crisis...he makes the NFL look bad time and again. This could have been a simple equipment violation and it turned into a nuclear winter apocalyptic circus.
As per league rules this could have been dealt with the week of the superbowl. Team gets monetary fine. Trainer suspended for a few games. case close, there is precedence for it...but no...miss management 101

I agree, this has to be the biggest screw up I've ever seen, a completely made-up crisis meant to distract people from his incompetence by attacking the "enemy" (of the Jets and the owners that are tired of being beat by the Patriots) and completely mishandling it.

vyrago · Sep 3, 2015

makoute said:
If he wasn't fired after Ray Rice, I doubt he would be now.

That was only punching a woman unconscious; under-inflated footballs is really important

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voluntarysaftey · Sep 3, 2015

Entire NFL office including Goodell needs to be flushed -- Goodell is a big part of the problem and he hired underlings that would do his bidding -- it's not that the underlings are going rouge on him

reflexblue · Sep 3, 2015

He won't be fire for this, at least not right away. A couple of more debacles like this and he will be gone. The NFL would make money for the owners anyone of us were in goodells position. Its not goodell, its the game that draws fans and makes money

zydecochris · Sep 3, 2015

eagle eye said:
After yet another defeat in court and with the millions of hard earned owners' dollars spent on this one I pose the question....

Will Roger Goodell be fired?

If he is fired, let's start thinking about some job qualifications for the new Commissioner:

Someone who has said their dream job is to be NFL Commissioner.
Someone who is actually SMART, let's say someone that graduated with a B.S. degree Phi Betta Kappa at age 19, won several very prestigious teaching awards as a Professor at Stanford University, and became the youngest Provost at Stanford ever.
Someone who is a concert level pianist, so that they can personally play the introduction to "Monday Night Football"
Someone who has a just a little experience with handling crises, serving terms as National Security Advisor and Secretary of State.
Someone who currently works smoothly with a bunch of old men on the College Football Playoff Committee

Let's see, who satisfies those qualifications:

http://espn.go.com/college-football...ral-choice-college-football-playoff-committee

.....I know not everybody will agree with this, that is OK, bring on some other nominations!

I nominated her because us Birmingham Alabama based (where I live, where she was born) Professors have to stick together

Soul_Survivor88 · Sep 3, 2015

zydecochris said:
If he is fired, let's start thinking about some job qualifications for the new Commissioner:

Someone who has said their dream job is to be NFL Commissioner.

Someone who is actually SMART, let's say someone that graduated with a B.S. degree Phi Betta Kappa at age 19, won several very prestigious teaching awards as a Professor at Stanford University, and became the youngest Provost at Stanford ever.

Someone who is a concert level pianist, so that they can personally play the introduction to "Monday Night Football"

Someone who has a just a little experience with handling crises, serving terms as National Security Advisor and Secretary of State.

Someone who currently works smoothly with a bunch of old men on the College Football Playoff Committee

Let's see, who satisfies those qualifications:

http://espn.go.com/college-football...ral-choice-college-football-playoff-committee

.....I know not everybody will agree with this, that is OK, bring on some other nominations!

I nominated her because us Birmingham Alabama based (where I live, where she was born) Professors have to stick together

Robert Raiola, CPA‏@SportsTaxMan
Roger Goodell is the only Commissioner in the 4 main team sports who is not an attorney.

Go figure^^

Rob0729 · Sep 3, 2015

Not yet. Let's see if during the appeals process that when the NFLPA subpoena the Wells Report work product including email communications between Wells and Pash (including different edited versions of the report) and whether the NFL can hide behind attorney/client privilege and whether the judge overseeing the appeals process makes them file that stuff on the record.

If the stuff we haven't seen from the Wells Report comes public, it could open a Pandora's Box of problems for Goodell and the NFL.

DarrylS · Sep 3, 2015

This will depend on the other 31, but as the money flows mightily into their hands maybe not right now.

But I do think they will change some of he responsibilities and demand that his inner circle will change significantly along with his modus operandi.. the NFL leaks were total bullshyt.

RobAllan · Sep 3, 2015

makoute said:
If he wasn't fired after Ray Rice, I doubt he would be now.

It's this all day long. He was already not fired for complete incompetence and inability to handle basic procedure. The only thing new here is that he's also biased, but it's mostly only Pats fans that think so. So nothing has really changed. I don't even think perception has... it's been kind of a while since we thought he was good right? And the owners haven't cared yet.

QuantumMechanic · Sep 3, 2015

I think Brandt is (sadly) correct:

Thus, while Goodell may have lost a solid ally in Kraft—although I am skeptical that he actually has lost his support—he has likely scored points with several owners in his strong stance against a perceived favorite. While there have been scattered reports about some owners being unhappy with the length of the investigation, we have not seen one owner publicly state anything other than full support of Goodell. While the public, fans and media have their fun mocking and excoriating Goodell, his bosses support him and compensate him handsomely.

http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2015/09/01/nfl-deflategate-decision-roger-goodell-tom-brady-judge-berman

PatsWickedPissah · Sep 3, 2015

Owners double down on stupid

IcyPatriot · Sep 3, 2015

He will be neutered ... Kensil and vincent need to be forced out as well as Pash and no more hiring of Wells.

Observer · Sep 3, 2015

NFL and Goodell is a marriage made in heaven. No way he gets fired.

RelocatedPatFan · Sep 3, 2015

if you had a 97% chance to win something and went 0-5, do you think it's a statistical anomaly or character flaw?

The question is, has their disposable tool been tarnished as to be ineffective for them? I would say the answer is a resounding yes, but the owners are an obstinate and clueless bunch...As we know with Kraft being the best of them and look how that's turned out.

Rusty Coupe · Sep 3, 2015

The answer seems to be the only way to get him fired is if the Patriots fans show their 100% support of Godell.

Has Goodell's situation become untenable?

Will Goodell be fired?

Yes

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