Official 9/2 Decision Day(Prob Not) News Updates and Links Thread

festy1986 said:

Yea and what happens if he rules in favor of the nfl. What's the excuse for the wait then?

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What's your point? How is this relevant? No one is making excuses for Berman.

The judge stated he expected a ruling by Tuesday or Wednesday, and certainly no later than Friday.

Assuming he issues a ruling by Friday, he won't have been dishonest whatsoever.

No one is making excuses for him, we're pointing out that he hasn't been dishonest (as you asserted), and furthermore, that it's to be expected that he'll take his time to write a carefully worded, reasoned ruling.

festy1986 said:

Judge Judy would of handled this already

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She wouldve handled it on Jan 19th.

SVN said:

Well..he assumes that if the judge does it and no one appeals it , it will stand. Even though the judge is technically not allowed to do that. Some weird logic.

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I read somewhere that the appeals court can take the case even if neither party appeals it. Is that true and if so why Florio argue this point?

sambam94 said:

I agree, what's up with the need for threesomes on all the shows?

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Left wing + right wing + contrarian = hit show (apparently)

or

Left nut + Right nut + whose the .......= hit show

dreighver said:

What's your point? How is this relevant? No one is making excuses for Berman.

The judge stated he expected a ruling by Tuesday or Wednesday, and certainly no later than Friday.

Assuming he issues a ruling by Friday, he won't have been dishonest whatsoever.

No one is making excuses for him, we're pointing out that he hasn't been dishonest (as you asserted), and furthermore, that it's to be expected that he'll take his time to write a carefully worded, reasoned ruling.

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And I stated that if he meant Friday then say Friday.

Let's not pretend like when he said either Tuesday or Wednesday and certainly by Friday that anyone thought Friday was the day.

RelocatedPatFan said:

At what time can we start the 9/3 thread? I'm getting antsy for it

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On the 3rd day Berman will rise and issue his ruling.

The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of Goodell and his men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who have attempted to poison and destroy my brother Brady. And you will know I am the Judge when I lay my vengeance upon you.

festy1986 said:

And I stated that if he meant Friday then say Friday.

Let's not pretend like when he said either Tuesday or Wednesday and certainly by Friday that anyone thought Friday was the day.

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I'm sorry that he is not meeting your personal standard of professional conduct. Let's look at from another perspective. Your manager gives you a project to do and says you have until Friday, but you say you think you might be able to get it done sooner. After doing a little more work you realize you need until Friday and let your manager know. Is that unprofessional as well?

I'm thinking this might be one reason why things are delayed. It puts things in proper context: accused Russian spy vs delayed footballs
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0Q32HV20150729

Still Nada

festy1986 said:

And I stated that if he meant Friday then say Friday.

Let's not pretend like when he said either Tuesday or Wednesday and certainly by Friday that anyone thought Friday was the day.

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Well, if you took his words to mean "definitely, 100% Tuesday or Wednesday", that's on you. Berman made no guarantees (save for that he'd rule no later than Friday).

You seem to assume that he's intentionally dragging this out, and that he was disingenuous with regard to the timeline he laid out on Monday. I think those are unfortunate assumptions to make. Berman was likely uncertain of when, precisely, he'd rule. These things take time and it's a fluid process.

I don't understand why you're so bothered by Berman.

WinstonSmith said:

On the 3rd day Berman will rise and issue his ruling.

The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of Goodell and his men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who have attempted to poison and destroy my brother Brady. And you will know I am the Judge when I lay my vengeance upon you.

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Jules? Is that you?

dreighver said:

Well, if you took his words to mean "definitely, 100% Tuesday or Wednesday", that's on you. Berman made no guarantees (save for that he'd rule no later than Friday).

You seem to assume that he's intentionally dragging this out, and that he was disingenuous with regard to the timeline he laid out on Monday. I think that's an unfortunate assumption to make. Berman was likely uncertain of when, precisely, he'd rule. These things take time and it's a fluid process.

I don't understand why you're so bothered by Berman.

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Fair enough.

I'm not bothered by Berman at all, by all accounts he's been fair and can only hope he rules in favor of brady.

karguy85 said:

I'm sorry that he is not meeting your personal standard of professional conduct. Let's look at from another perspective. Your manager gives you a project to do and says you have until Friday, but you say you think you might be able to get it done sooner. After doing a little more work you realize you need until Friday and let your manager know. Is that unprofessional as well?

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Im.just being antsy and it's too late in the year for this muggy weather. Don't mind me.

festy1986 said:

And I stated that if he meant Friday then say Friday.

Let's not pretend like when he said either Tuesday or Wednesday and certainly by Friday that anyone thought Friday was the day.

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Berman just likes to troll us a little bit. He will surprise everyone and issue his order on Thursday, and proclaim "HAH! Didn't see that one coming did ya?!"

festy1986 said:

Im.just being antsy and it's too late in the year for this muggy weather. Don't mind me.

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No worries. I completely agree. I'm just hoping that the delay favors Brady and Berman is writing an ironclad pro-Brady decision that cannot be overturned on appeal.

Regardless of ruling, I can't shake the frustration and feelings of hopelessness re : the picks, the sting, the league-wide hatred. Don't get me wrong : rather have all this BS + cheering for a winner, than be a Jacksonville fan. But still - that first rounder really gets to me.

Gronkowski123 said:

bad news if this goes against brady.

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But if he is ruling for Brady, that would be more of a reason why to take more time. It is far easier to write an appeal proof decision for the NFL because the law is on the side of the arbitrator. To uphold a decision for Brady, Berman would need to really craft sound reasoning backed by case law because it is far easier for an appellant court to fall back on the fact that the NFL has a lot of leeway on their process.

Ross12 said:

C'mon Berman, provide us with some relief! I'm beginning to wonder if he is just leaving the parties hanging to see if the NFL will cave and come to reality with a reasonable settlement offer. Making a ruling "appeal-proof" is one thing, but a settlement is about as "appeal-proof" as you can get.

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I say take your time Richard. The longer he takes to write his decision, the more likely that he is ruling in Brady's favor.

Possible reason for the delay:


Max Stendahl‏@MaxLaw360
Random Judge Berman note: He has a 2pm hearing today in an unrelated criminal case against an alleged Russian spy.

EDIT: I didn't see Patsguy post.

festy1986 said:

Can't trust a judge who gives you a window on when to expect his ruling and then turnaround and give you it late.

If by no later than friday, he means Friday than that's exactly what he should of said. Not professional if you ask me.

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You have never dealt with a court have you. Usually, if they say they will give you a decision no later than Friday, September 4th, it means you won't see a decision until February. If and when Judge Berman gives a decision by Friday, it will be one of the quickest turnarounds in Federal court history.