Dear Pats Fans...September's Game of the Month!

FirstAndGoal said:

Wanna bet?

It isn't a division game so it has no more bearing than the Cleveland game and I think there are better measuring sticks for us like Indy (as always) and Baltimore because of their placement in the schedule. I expect us to lose some games during the season and it doesn't really matter who we lose to as long as they aren't division games. He's a clue for the Charger fans since I know that you guys like to brag about 14-2 in the regular season and you've rallied around some lame excuse to overshadow your loss and declare your hatred for all things New England because some of you have make an enemy to justify your own embarrassment. The goal is to get the the playoffs, be healthy, and get home field advantage as the icing on the cake. At that point, it's a new season. Maybe you forgot because yours was so short lol

I'm much more concerned with Baltimore on. If you guys want the crown for the best team in September, great, I'll call Denis Green and see if he has one he can lend me. I'll settle for the best team in Feb. Maybe that answers the question for you; no, I don't have that game circled. I'll watch but I'm not going to sweat a September game and I doubt many here will either.

I remember that same ****iness right up until you your QB started screeching like a little girl at Hobbs and LT started pointing fingers at people who weren't even involved in a young player's emotion. It didn't change the outcome of the score now did it? Our coach is still with the team BTW. lol

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Never have and never will make any excuses as everyone who have read any of my posts already knows except perhaps you but you can learn.

And FYI all true football fans "sweat" every game their team plays during the regular season until such time as their team has clinched reaching the post season.

Your wannabe non-sweat posture may work for several games for fans of baseball over the long course of 162 games but really does not work for football fans over the short course of 16 games wherein the outcome of each game has exponentially greater impact.

As it stands, let's plan on revisiting this particular discussion in late December and see whether one of us is sadly bemoaning the fact that we lost or greatly relieved that we won this unimportant non-divisional game in early September.

csfoster said:

Never have and never will make any excuses as everyone who have read any of my posts already knows except perhaps you but you can learn.

And FYI all true football fans "sweat" every game their team plays during the regular season until such time as their team has clinched reaching the post season.

Your wannabe non-sweat posture may work for several games for fans of baseball over the long course of 162 games but really does not work for football fans over the short course of 16 games wherein the outcome of each game has exponentially greater impact.

As it stands, let's plan on revisiting this particular discussion in late December and see whether one of us is sadly bemoaning the fact that we lost or greatly relieved that we won this unimportant non-divisional game in early September.

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Yup, you're a true fan because you sweat it. lol.

Spoken like another pop warner superstar. lol I won't bemoan anything and as soon as this discussion falls off the page, I'll forget it. I'm sure you'll run right to it if you win but I won't be trolling your board if you lose. count on it. You can pretend to play Internet football guru all you want but it doesn't change the fact that you're on this board for a game that's 5 months away because you have some issues about losing a game that you and your brethren never thought you could lose. Now that it's on the schedule, your touch-hole is quivering and you couldn't wait to start this thread and point back to it with the douche-bags on your board who think your team has done something. I'll bet you're a big man over there. Hope you're getting your chuckles as you really "light it up". Make sure you point out our conversation so that you can solicit a bunch of moronic posts telling you you're the man.

BTW, last time we went 14-2 we finished up with a ring so forgive me if I don't take my advice from some "true fan" of a team that is more famous for choking than for anything else. I remember a co@ky Steelers team getting excited about beating the Patriots too. How did that turn out for that 15-1 team? If you worry about a single game, then you're a lot younger than me so save the advice for some of your fantasy football buddies. Maybe you can consult Madden football to see how the season will turn out.

FirstAndGoal said:

Yup, you're a true fan because you sweat it. lol.

Spoken like another pop warner superstar. lol I won't bemoan anything and as soon as this discussion falls off the page, I'll forget it. I'm sure you'll run right to it if you win but I won't be trolling your board if you lose. count on it. You can pretend to play Internet football guru all you want but it doesn't change the fact that you're on this board for a game that's 5 months away because you have some issues about losing a game that you and your brethren never thought you could lose. Now that it's on the schedule, your touch-hole is quivering and you couldn't wait to start this thread and point back to it with the douche-bags on your board who think your team has done something. I'll bet you're a big man over there. Hope you're getting your chuckles as you really "light it up". Make sure you point out our conversation so that you can solicit a bunch of moronic posts telling you you're the man.

BTW, last time we went 14-2 we finished up with a ring so forgive me if I don't take my advice from some "true fan" of a team that is more famous for choking than for anything else. I remember a co@ky Steelers team getting excited about beating the Patriots too. How did that turn out for that 15-1 team? If you worry about a single game, then you're a lot younger than me so save the advice for some of your fantasy football buddies. Maybe you can consult Madden football to see how the season will turn out.

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ouch ! man ! save some for the season.

FirstAndGoal said:

Yup, you're a true fan because you sweat it. lol.

Spoken like another pop warner superstar. lol I won't bemoan anything and as soon as this discussion falls off the page, I'll forget it. I'm sure you'll run right to it if you win but I won't be trolling your board if you lose. count on it. You can pretend to play Internet football guru all you want but it doesn't change the fact that you're on this board for a game that's 5 months away because you have some issues about losing a game that you and your brethren never thought you could lose. Now that it's on the schedule, your touch-hole is quivering and you couldn't wait to start this thread and point back to it with the douche-bags on your board who think your team has done something. I'll bet you're a big man over there. Hope you're getting your chuckles as you really "light it up". Make sure you point out our conversation so that you can solicit a bunch of moronic posts telling you you're the man.

BTW, last time we went 14-2 we finished up with a ring so forgive me if I don't take my advice from some "true fan" of a team that is more famous for choking than for anything else. I remember a co@ky Steelers team getting excited about beating the Patriots too. How did that turn out for that 15-1 team? If you worry about a single game, then you're a lot younger than me so save the advice for some of your fantasy football buddies. Maybe you can consult Madden football to see how the season will turn out.

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As you say, "wanna bet"

This topic is not likely to fall off this board anytime soon before or for that matter after September's game given the more than numerous Pats Fans with real intelligence who appreciate a great conversation without coloring it with personal insults.

And while without exception there are "douche-bags" on every board, I have found that on most boards including this one and ours they are the exception and not the general rule and as such that they are most content happily douching each other among themselves and only occasionally mistakenly venture out of their confine of fantasized intelligence to post their sad drivel for all to see.

Be that as it may and having apparently posted on this board longer than you have, I am confident that the vast majority of Pats Fans with real intelligence on this board recognize that from my very first post ("I Hate the Word Dynasty" in January of 2005) I have consistently given credit and paid respect to your team and its fans when due come win or lose come before and after while also never giving in to the easy but ultimately meaningless low language of personal insults.

And a perusal of the Chargers forum board would reveal the same although my primary focus there is Keeping the Chargers the San Diego Chargers. I mostly reserved serious discussion of other teams for and with the fans of other teams who are capable of engaging in a friendly, intelligent, and humorous conversation regarding both of our teams.

Try it sometime.

csfoster said:

Dear Pats Fans,

I thoroughly enjoyed talking with you guys throughout last season even though I thoroughly did not enjoy the last occasion we did so.

Nonetheless, as I did then I still do now congratulate you and your team for the Pats great victory over the Bolts on our home-field in the play-offs last season.

And of course, I am excitingly and eagerly anticipating the second week of the upcoming season where we will officially pick-up where we left off last season's last conversation.

Looking forward to ........September's Game of the Month!

Caryl

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Great post also...

Interested in your take of the coaching changes...
do you expect your team to be more or less what it was last year?

Or are there concerns in bolt country over the new coaching staff?

TheBaronPatriot said:

Great post also...

Interested in your take of the coaching changes...
do you expect your team to be more or less what it was last year?

Or are there concerns in bolt country over the new coaching staff?

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A great deal of concern initially given Norv's head coaching record but a whole lot less now on fans and our players part after Norv introduced himself by calling out our offensive plays in the same language and terminology spoken and practiced since 2001 when Norv implemented our current offensive system while serving as the Bolts offensive coordinator.

And ironically, the same can be said for our new defensive coordinator Ted Cottrell who likewise did the same exact thing calling out the Bolts current defensive plays and signals when first introduced. He learned the 3-4 under Wade Phillips.

Consequently, there will be no loss in the continuity of execution because no new learning of new offensive or defensive plays will be required. And that's a great thing.

However, what's left is the question of our new coaches demonstrating the often intangible qualities of great leadership that translates into producing a winning team and much less often than more hopefully into a championship one. In other words, that one intangible that Marty was unable to demonstrate.

On the surface this team has great talent, quality depth, and the apparent capability required to win it all but the question of great leadership still lurks below and will remain unanswered until the outcome of this season is known.

Until then, we are left with hoping for the best while not expecting the worse.

If Norv can't get go into the playoffs with AJ's stocked team then I will be at a loss for words.

Boston Jay said:

If Norv can't get go into the playoffs with AJ's stocked team then I will be at a loss for words.

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And it may hasten the future departure and loss of our team in San Diego.

I don't know where the Bolts would go. Long before the Bolts could be transferred to LA LA land, there are other clubs that would take precedence from the league's perspective.

JAx and Buffalo are in markets too small to support them. (Green Bay too but it is a special case).

But it really makes no sense to have two teams sharing the relatively tiny Bay area market, when a much bigger market has no team, and the third largest market (Chicago) now only has a single team.

Besides, Al Davis still claims LA as his own market; he still has unadjsudicated lawsuits in abeyance to assit in getting league accomodation. Like your owner he has been extremely carful to sign no binding agreement with the Oakland Coliseum. Further he has gone out of his way to document and charge them with several breaches of contract that would allow him to muzzle any depaprture lawsuit. Having a second team leave a market is a lot easier too without incurring the politicians wrath.

Even with your ownership complaining about your Stadium, its really not that bad a football stadium unlike the Oakland baseball park which is small and not well laid out for football. All it needs is a rebuild for a few more boxes but the new CAP destroys most of the previous advantages from box revenue anyway, now that it is shared.

In fact if I were designing a Satdium today, I would go in the DC Fedex direction toward 90,000 seats rather than large numbers of boxes. Even New York appears to be going that way, and they have all the corporate HQs for box revenue targets.

AzPatsFan said:

I don't know where the Bolts would go. Long before the Bolts could be transferred to LA LA land, there are other clubs that would take precedence from the league's perspective.

JAx and Buffalo are in markets too small to support them. (Green Bay too but it is a special case).

But it really makes no sense to have two teams sharing the relatively tiny Bay area market, when a much bigger market has no team, and the third largest market (Chicago) now only has a single team.

Besides, Al Davis still claims LA as his own market; he still has unadjsudicated lawsuits in abeyance to assit in getting league accomodation. Like your owner he has been extremely carful to sign no binding agreement with the Oakland Coliseum. Further he has gone out of his way to document and charge them with several breaches of contract that would allow him to muzzle any depaprture lawsuit. Having a second team leave a market is a lot easier too without incurring the politicians wrath.

Even with your ownership complaining about your Stadium, its really not that bad a football stadium unlike the Oakland baseball park which is small and not well laid out for football. All it needs is a rebuild for a few more boxes but the new CAP destroys most of the previous advantages from box revenue anyway, now that it is shared.

In fact if I were designing a Satdium today, I would go in the DC Fedex direction toward 90,000 seats rather than large numbers of boxes. Even New York appears to be going that way, and they have all the corporate HQs for box revenue targets.

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san antonio would be my guess

LT's from texas , so that would be kinda cool for him at least.

AzPatsFan said:

Even with your ownership complaining about your Stadium, its really not that bad a football stadium.

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It's not a terrible stadium except for the fact it's sinking. Hundreds of obstructed view seats. Facilities are out of date. Structural damage due to neglect.

Re: Dear Pats Fans........September's Game of the Month!

csfoster said:

I agree and for sure he will be motivated to make a lot of teams answer the question of why they passed on him.

As excerpt from an interview during Chargers mini-camp:

Siler, a third-team All-American last season for the team that dominated Ohio State in the national championship game, was the 31st linebacker taken. Linebackers from football outposts like Alabama A&M, Brown, Elon, Florida International and Portland State all went before Siler.

And he still hasn't the slightest idea why he fell so far in the draft.

"Nobody has answered that question yet," Siler said after a practice during the Chargers' three-day minicamp. "There's a big question mark out there, and I just can't think about it. I just have to keep moving on."

The draft experience was nothing like what Siler envisioned after he opted to bypass his senior season at Florida. Gators coach Urban Meyer had tried to sway Siler to return, but the 6-foot-2, 239-pounder believed he was ready for the NFL.

One week later, Siler isn't afraid to admit that he has second-guessed himself over his decision.

"After you go in the seventh round, you have to doubt it," Siler said. "I was a tad bit embarrassed because of the decision I made for a little while, but it was a decision I made and I'm going to stand behind that decision.

"... If I would've (gone) next year, there's no promises that the same thing wouldn't have happened. I did everything that I had to do, and things still didn't work out for me."

Siler was second on the Gators with 77 tackles last season and was a semifinalist for the Chuck Bednarik Award, given annually to the nation's top defensive player. He had 30 career tackles for losses over three seasons and was one of the many heroes when Florida limited Ohio State to 82 total yards and eight first downs in the title game.

Having reached the pinnacle of on-field collegiate success made the draft-day fall all the more agonizing.

"Our defense was one of the best defenses in college football," Siler said. "I led the defense to that national championship, so it was very difficult to deal with it.

"I'm just trying to ignore it and move on with my career."

First-round draft pick Craig Davis of LSU, a Southeastern Conference rival of Florida, is very familiar with Siler. He was stunned that Siler wasn't picked until the seventh round.

"He's a lot better player than that," Davis said. "He's a great defensive player."

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To answer Silers question.
1. He's had some injuries.
2. He's to ****y, and thinks to highly of himself
3. He didn't listen to his coaches at times.
4. From what I understand Meyer didn't give BB (his friend) and other coaches that good of a report on Siler. If Meyer thought Siler was anything special BB would have drafted him, especially since he slipped so far.

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sebman2112 said:

To answer Silers question.
1. He's had some injuries.
2. He's to ****y, and thinks to highly of himself
3. He didn't listen to his coaches at times.
4. From what I understand Meyer didn't give BB (his friend) and other coaches that good of a report on Siler. If Meyer thought Siler was anything special BB would have drafted him, especially since he slipped so far.

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Hopefully, Meyer didn't give NT (not necessarily his friend) a different report.

As it stands, Siler can not afford any type of injury, can hardly think highly of himself given the talent level he will be competing against for one of very few spots available on this team, and might think about bringing an apple to class everyday and sit close up front so as not to miss a single word spoken by his coaches.

When it comes to SD's coaching changes:

Will Norv Turner change their offense? No, since he installed that offense when he was with the Chargers a few years back, and they never changed it. Turner has added more plays to the offense, though. Turner is an offensive guru, and as I said that's already his offense, but the play calling might be slightly different from cameron's play calling. Since Turner is an offensive guru this could be a plus, but it also could be a slight neg.

Will they change the defense? No, they are still going to use the same defensive system, but lessor coaches will be calling the plays, so their defense will be effected from that perspective.

Really all of their systems are going to be the same it's just going to be different coaches running those systems. I don't think Turner is a good head coach at all, but as I already pointed out he's a very good offensive coach, and they're already used to his offensive system. Where I think they'll be effected the most is defense, from a coaching stand point. The Chargers will still have all the talent in the world, we'll just have to see how this new coaching staff game plans, and if all that talent will be enough to offset all the coaching changes. They didn't just lose their HC, OC, and DC, they also lost two other assistants. So, they REALLY have a different coaching staff.

(Edit: I accidently said when he was with the Raiders (talking about Turner) when I meant to say when he was with the Chargers, sorry.)

sebman2112 said:

When it comes to SD's coaching changes:

Will Norv Turner change their offense? No, since he installed that offense when he was with the Raiders a few years back, and they never changed it. Turner has added more plays to the offense, though. Turner is an offensive guru, and as I said that's already his offense, but the play calling might be slightly different from cameron's play calling. Since Turner is an offensive guru this could be a plus, but it also could be a slight neg.

Will they change the defense? No, they are still going to use the same defensive system, but lessor coaches will be calling the plays, so their defense will be effected from that perspective.

Really all of their systems are going to be the same it's just going to be different coaches running those systems. I don't think Turner is a good head coach at all, but as I already pointed out he's a very good offensive coach, and they're already used to his offensive system. Where I think they'll be effected the most is defense, from a coaching stand point. The Chargers will still have all the talent in the world, we'll just have to see how this new coaching staff game plans, and if all that talent will be enough to offset all the coaching changes. They didn't just lose their HC, OC, and DC, they also lost two other assistants. So, they REALLY have a different coaching staff.

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A fair assessment although I would add that Bolts Fans also see several other likely benefits of the coaching changes:

1) The complete disregard of any consideration of playing "prevent defense" at anytime during a game unless we are up by 21 or more points with 2 minutes or less to play;

2) Merriman used less in pass coverage particularly on 3rd downs;

3) Offensive play-calling featuring both LT and Turner in the backfield at certain times;

4) The actual effective play-calling use of a deep passing threat to free Gates and LT underneath; and perhaps most importantly

5) The absolute absence during this regular season of loudly hearing the emotionally draining but unfortunately deservedly earned across the land broadcasted public mantra: "Marty can't win in the play-offs!!!"

Just wanted to drop a brief line to say hello and wish you guys and your great team well in health as the light at the end of the month's long tunnel leading to our next worthy of national attention get-together is finally visible.

And by the way, thank you and your team for no doubt serving as partial source for Merriman's recent decision to do away with his "Lights Out" dance.

As a past and still great fan of Junior, I always thought and stated as such that Seau should save his dances for when a truly game-changing game-winning play was made by him and not indulge doing so on a 1st or 2nd down play when it was just as likely as it often did happen that the opposition would get a first down or score a touchdown on the very next play. Likewise Merriman.

Stay Healthy Pats! :eat3:

csfoster said:

A fair assessment although I would add that Bolts Fans also see several other likely benefits of the coaching changes:



5) The absolute absence during this regular season of loudly hearing the emotionally draining but unfortunately deservedly earned across the land broadcasted public mantra: "Marty can't win in the play-offs!!!"

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No need to worry about the playoffs. Norv can't win in the regular season.

spacecrime said:

No need to worry about the playoffs. Norv can't win in the regular season.

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I had no problem with your team celebrating on our home-field immediately following an unexpected play-off victory gift. Nor did I take issue with your player's poor imitation of Merriman's laughable dance during it. The Pats and you guys earned and deserved to do both.

Unfortunately or perhaps fortunately depending upon one's perspective, LT, who correctly apologized to Bill B. for his post-game remarks, and the rest of the Bolts, just about all of whom have returned for this season, did take great exception with both and do remember the battery we self-imposed with clarity.

While it remains to be seen whether or not learning from that sad experience will prove to be of benefit in the play-offs this season, rest assured that day will result in the Bolts singular most intense focus and complete play during the regular season come September's Game of the Month.

During it, look for the Bolts to play with the unemotional precision of the Terminator seeking only the satisfaction of walking off your home-field in complete victory and in total silence after it while looking forward to playing your great team again when it really really counts in this season's play-offs.