Lewis v White

mgteich · Aug 29, 2015

I think that we only need ONE 3rd down back, with Bolden as the backup.
power: Blount, Gray
3rd: ???, Bolden
ST: Bolden

We can certainly afford to wait until Week 2 to make the decision.

Ross12 · Aug 29, 2015

I found it curious that we really didn't see White much at all last night. Wonder why.

mgteich · Aug 29, 2015

Ross12 said:
I found it curious that we really didn't see White much at all last night. Wonder why.

Perhaps, Belichick didn't need to see anymore. What I found curious is that Blount was on the field so late.

Ross12 · Aug 29, 2015

mgteich said:
Perhaps, Belichick didn't need to see anymore. What I found curious is that Blount was on the field so late.

I agree. A thought creeping into my head is Bill cutting Blount and keeping Gray as the power back and Bolden behind him... Bolden did get a lot of work last night. Bill might be thinking he wants to keep Lewis and White and needs to cut someone else somewhere. Blount hasn't really been very impressive this offseason.

primetime · Aug 29, 2015

Ross12 said:
I agree. A thought creeping into my head is Bill cutting Blount and keeping Gray as the power back and Bolden behind him... Bolden did get a lot of work last night. Bill might be thinking he wants to keep Lewis and White and needs to cut someone else somewhere. Blount hasn't really been very impressive this offseason.

It's a decision he doesn't have to make until Week 2.

Soul_Survivor88 · Aug 29, 2015

Ross12 said:
Blount hasn't really been very impressive this offseason.

Ross,

Doesn't seem like his fault though. Our o-line hasn't really helped him

Ross12 · Aug 29, 2015

primetime said:
It's a decision he doesn't have to make until Week 2.

Good point, I forgot about that.

Chiuba E. Obele said:
Ross,

Doesn't seem like his fault though. Our o-line hasn't really helped him

I agree, but at the same time, you want to see your starting RB doing more to fight for yards instead of just dancing and hoping a hole appears. This is something I think Gray has looked a bit better at this preseason.

captain stone · Aug 29, 2015

mgteich said:
I would have preferred that we signed seasoned veteran 3rd down back. Having 3 mediocre ones isn't a better situation.

Roy Helu was available and signed with Oakland for at least 1/3 as much as what Vereen signed with NJ.

Ross12 · Aug 29, 2015

captain stone said:
Roy Helu was available and signed with Oakland for almost half as much as what Vereen signed with NJ.

I was really hoping the team nabbed Helu, I think he would've done very well here. But I think Lewis is doing most of what I would have expected from Helu, anyway.

patsfaninpa · Aug 29, 2015

Without Develin. I think we can keep both. It would be difficult to cut Lewis at this point. I think White has earned his spot too.

primetime · Aug 29, 2015

Ross12 said:
I agree, but at the same time, you want to see your starting RB doing more to fight for yards instead of just dancing and hoping a hole appears. This is something I think Gray has looked a bit better at this preseason.

I thought Gray looked better at it than Blount did last year. Blount's a finesse back in a power back's body, Gray's much more of a pounder. If your offensive line isn't going to open holes, you'd rather have the latter.

mgteich · Aug 29, 2015

patsfaninpa said:
Without Develin. I think we can keep both. It would be difficult to cut Lewis at this point. I think White has earned his spot too.

I don't understand the logic. Which of White and Lewis can play TE (as Develin did). Which is worth a roster spot as a lead blocker (as Develin was).

Deus Irae · Aug 29, 2015

mgteich said:
Perhaps, Belichick didn't need to see anymore. What I found curious is that Blount was on the field so late.

He's suspended for week 1, so he was getting some work, per broadcaster speculation. We might very well see him next week, for the same reason, per my speculation.

By all reports, Blount's been the team's best RB in camp, so I don't take any worrisome meaning from his getting later carries.

RayClay · Aug 29, 2015

Zuma said:
At the end of the day....when it's all said and done (creating this post just to use metaphors), our 3rd down back needs to show a threat of running that rock. He needs to be quick and elusive. If their is no threat....if everyone on the field knows he can only catch...then that severely limits our options and one of the main functions of a 3rd down back.

1st and foremost...a 3rd down back needs to prove he can run. People will argue that Vereen couldn't run. I have always disagreed with that argument. Look up the average yards per carry. The numbers don't lie. Faulk was a great one too.

I believe Lewis can run better then White (among other things). This is why I think Lewis makes the 53.

Agree. I can think of lots of great third down backs who were great with the ball in their hands, not necessarily "great" receivers. Many of the throws will be screens and dump offs anyway. Why use a guy who can't make something happen in those situations?

RayClay · Aug 29, 2015

pherein said:
none of the 3 you have, have that. Peterson does, none of yours. None of them are that good. Just my opinion. If white, lewis, or cadet were in Id look for differnet things, but wouldnt be a game changer. Peterson in Im nervous no matter what down it is. Id forget that if talking about these 3. Come down to earth.

Obviously not a lot of NFL tape, but freshman college vid.

QB12 · Aug 29, 2015

Deus Irae said:
He's suspended for week 1, so he was getting some work, per broadcaster speculation. We might very well see him next week, for the same reason, per my speculation.

By all reports, Blount's been the team's best RB in camp, so I don't take any worrisome meaning from his getting later carries.

Brandon Browner got late snaps last preseason too.

deters · Aug 29, 2015

mgteich said:
Perhaps, Belichick didn't need to see anymore. What I found curious is that Blount was on the field so late.

With him being suspended, he likely won't play for 3 weeks. Long time to sit on shelf, so hes getting more reps in preseason. It would be a major shocker if Blount is gone. Belichick really likes him.

RayClay · Aug 29, 2015

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patsfaninpa · Aug 29, 2015

mgteich said:
I don't understand the logic. Which of White and Lewis can play TE (as Develin did). Which is worth a roster spot as a lead blocker (as Develin was).

Just use two te's in short yardage. Along with Fleming. Any other easy questions for 200 Alex?

Schmo · Aug 29, 2015

Lewis is doing everything he can do to make the team. He looks on the same level as Edelman as far as open field ability. He's made just about every play that comes his way,which is more than can be said for a lot of the roster at this point.

The TD catch had to have made BB smile a little (on the inside). The route wasn't anything special, but he was lined up wide, the pass was a little behind him, and he caught it in traffic. That's a bonus when you're talking about a guy that you'd expect to make all his catches wide open in the flat coming out of the backfield.

He's making a case for himself as a "football player" as opposed to niche specialist. That's what ultimately matters to BB.

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