Will there be a WTF Move this year?

Regarding the title - - I would say "most probably".

The Sanders cut a few years was the worst. He was good, smart, dependable, cheap, made clutch plays and his cutting left an already weak secondary even weaker. That was unforgivably bad by Belichick.

shmessy said:

Regarding the title - - I would say "most probably".

The Sanders cut a few years was the worst. He was good, smart, dependable, cheap, made clutch plays and his cutting left an already weak secondary even weaker. That was unforgivably bad by Belichick.

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It also may have cost the team the Super Bowl. Hard to believe Eli goes 30-40 with improved safety play over what they had.

KontradictioN said:

It also may have cost the team the Super Bowl. Hard to believe Eli goes 30-40 with improved safety play over what they had.

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Yup, I'll never get over BB cutting Sanders.

I would like to hear his reasoning for that someday. (when that tell-all book comes out in retirement!)


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Maybe we've already seen it? Not resigning Revis and Browned and releasing Arrington comes to mind.

shmessy said:

Yup, I'll never get over BB cutting Sanders.

I would like to hear his reasoning for that someday. (when that tell-all book comes out in retirement!)


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That being said, looking at his career afterward, he never really did anything much outside NE and was out of football 2 years later.

http://www.nfl.com/player/jamessanders/2506470/profile

So maybe BB knows a thing or two about this sport?

37Harrison said:

Maybe we've already seen it? Not resigning Revis and Browned and releasing Arrington comes to mind.

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Of the 3, I think cutting Arrington was the most WTF?

The one sure thing is if there is a surprise cut of a good player the local media will go batsh#t crazy...

37Harrison said:

Maybe we've already seen it? Not resigning Revis and Browned and releasing Arrington comes to mind.

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Sad thing is, the Cap is Crap and We Could Have Had Revis and Browner And Everyone Else Too crowd wont give Belichick any credit for the team he has put together by spreading out the money we saved. They just want to pretend that we could have what we have now PLUS Revis (and Browner).

Math doesn't work that way.

I get that its hard to say that cutting Revis = signing/keeping Player A. B. C and D but the fact of the matter is.. this is exactly whats going on. The team we have now is very different than the team we would have had had we signed Revis' option.

How bout Bequette being cut a WTF move? Ha!

shmessy said:

That being said, looking at his career afterward, he never really did anything much outside NE and was out of football 2 years later.

http://www.nfl.com/player/jamessanders/2506470/profile

So maybe BB knows a thing or two about this sport?

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Yeah he fell off after 2011 but he could have given us an upgrade THAT YEAR over what they trotted out at the position.

fgssand said:

Our Dbackfield is loaded with jags and rookies & 2nd year players that may be really good - just too soon to tell, they may know however, so, in typical BB style, out goes Devin.

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And out goes $4.5M in salary cap space with him.

manxman2601 said:

I don't want to trade Garoppolo but win the SB, trade him for 33 and another high pick in 2017 plus the 2017 4th to really troll Goodell.

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I know that we lost the first round pick due to Deflategate sanction, but does that mean we can't trade for another's team first round pick in 2016?

raduray said:

I know that we lost the first round pick due to Deflategate sanction, but does that mean we can't trade for another's team first round pick in 2016?

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If we do, we'll get a first round pick again but it will be the lowest of the two. In other words we'd be giving up a very good player for a low first.

manxman2601 said:

If we do, we'll get a first round pick again but it will be the lowest of the two. In other words we'd be giving up a very good player for a low first.

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I thought raduray was asking if we could trade for a player AFTER another team selected him.

Miguel pointed out that the Pats wouldn't have enough money alloted to the rookie cap to sign the player.

Pats trade their 2016 first round pick and 2017 fourth round pick for Kam Chancellor.

PatsWickedPissah said:

I fully expect the unexpected. But it is a known unknown so we won't see it coming. BB simply loves to troll the fanbase.

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Exactly. If we could guess what it was, then it wouldn't be shocking.

Fencer said:

Chandler Jones, Mayo, Solder -- those are the three remotely plausible trades. (Not Vollmer because nobody would pay for him, on the theory that the Patriots know his health better than a buyer would.) I don't see the healthy depth at OT for it to be Solder. Mayo would seem like a bit of a betrayal after the restructuring. So Jones is the "top" candidate.

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Jones, Vollmer, Solder

FCB02062 said:

The one sure thing is if there is a surprise cut of a good player the local media will go batsh#t crazy...

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While certain posters complain how "cheap" the ownership is????????

manxman2601 said:

If we do, we'll get a first round pick again but it will be the lowest of the two. In other words we'd be giving up a very good player for a low first.

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Let me make sure I understand. Assume we win the SB again We would get pick 32 in the first round, but that is lost due to sanctions. We trade Jimmy G to another team for, let's say, the #5 draft pick. Are you saying that #5 pick would be relegated to #32?

If that's the case, and we conspire with the other team to select our choice at #5 and then trade Jimmy G for that player, would that be permitted under NFL rules?

raduray said:

Let me make sure I understand. Assume we win the SB again We would get pick 32 in the first round, but that is lost due to sanctions. We trade Jimmy G to another team for, let's say, the #5 draft pick. Are you saying that #5 pick would be relegated to #32?

If that's the case, and we conspire with the other team to select our choice at #5 and then trade Jimmy G for that player, would that be permitted under NFL rules?

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In your scenario, the #5 pick would be the forfeited pick and we would keep our own #32. As to your second question, I'm not sure but isn't that what happened with John Elway minus forfeited picks? However, I'm sure roger Goodell would find a way to punish us for it regardless of whether it was legal or not.