The D&C Show: Mortensen is lying about the Krafts apologizing

XLIX said:

I agree, although I hold out the possibility that Bob or Jonathan were pissed at Mort for LYING (again) and went to Dennis.

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VERY possible.

Palm Beach Pats Fan said:

Zolak is ripping Mort good

https://twitter.com/scottzolak?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

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"Go Work for NESN Jackwagon"

That's like, the funniest tweet I've read in a while.

RelocatedPatFan said:

The Krafts DID apologize.

It was Kraft foods that said, sorry you got us confused with the owners of the Patriots. Ben Volin confirmed the story.

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Trollin used three sources to confirm. Mort, Google and Bing.

TommyD4207 said:

"Go Work for NESN Jackwagon"

That's like, the funniest tweet I've read in a while.

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"Suck Wad"....LOL

TommyD4207 said:

What's the charge? Bear in mind the charge has to be criminal in nature, and able to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. Also, who would be charged with what, and why?

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RICO....

Any act of bribery, counterfeiting, theft, embezzlement, fraud, dealing in obscene matter, obstruction of justice, slavery, racketeering, gambling, money laundering, commission of murder-for-hire, and many other offenses covered under the Federal criminal code (Title 18);

Joker said:

RICO....

Any act of bribery, counterfeiting, theft, embezzlement, fraud, dealing in obscene matter, obstruction of justice, slavery, racketeering, gambling, money laundering, commission of murder-for-hire, and many other offenses covered under the Federal criminal code (Title 18);

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How have any of the people you named engaged in an actual, tangible fraud? Also, if they've obstructed justice, they do a terrible job at it, because they always lose.

It's like Orwell's "Animal Farm" when, at the end of the novel, the animals couldn't tell between the pigs and the farmers... I can no longer distinguish who works for espn and who works for the NFL.

Palm Beach Pats Fan said:

Zolak is ripping Mort good

https://twitter.com/scottzolak?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

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How many beers did Zo have tonight?

hambone1818 said:

'those that can, do; those that can't, teach; those who can do neither, criticize'.

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So, you're saying Belichick can't play football? BB is a prime example of someone who can't, but without him, a bunch of guys who can and did wouldn't've and couldn't've.

TommyD4207 said:

How have any of the people you named engaged in an actual, tangible fraud? Also, if they've obstructed justice, they do a terrible job at it, because they always lose.

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Well while i am not a lawyer i see the NFL attempting to defraud Tom Brady out of 1.88 million dollars of lawfully due income with a fraudulent prosecution for violating a rule that was never broken. Rico may be the only way to bring this out of control monster to heel.
Only problem is, as i understand it, in order to file under Rico you must have at least to separate instances of actions applicable to Rico charges within the previous 12 months. To establish your claim. The first one is your claim and then one other.

Mort was listening to his answering machine one day and.....

"Hi Mort, John and Bob Kraft here. We were just calling to talk to you about that 11 of 12 footballs being down 2psi report and an apology. Give us a call back sometime"

Mortimer I. M. Super-genius concluded based on that recording that he had received an apology.

****!

Florio tightening the screws.

The truth remains that Mortensen’s sources lied to him. Instead of blaming the sources for lying to him, Mortensen is trying to create the impression that they didn’t lie to him.

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/08/27/mort-says-kraft-apologized-to-him-patriots-deny-it/

upstater1 said:

So, you're saying Belichick can't play football? BB is a prime example of someone who can't, but without him, a bunch of guys who can and did wouldn't've and couldn't've.

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I think you missed the 'those who can't, teach' part of it. And BB is best of the best of that bunch. He'd readily admit he wasn't a great football player, but he's a phenomenal, once-a-generation football mind.

The idea is once you get past those who CAN, and those who can TEACH, you're left with the drek who are forced to criticize. i.e. Mort, Felger, Volin, Tanguay, etc etc...the krill feeding off the true talent, but also willing and eager to spew nonsense every step of the way because it's how they get ratings and how they stay employed, whether it's factual or not.

Rawky77 said:

Well while i am not a lawyer i see the NFL attempting to defraud Tom Brady out of 1.88 million dollars of lawfully due income with a fraudulent prosecution for violating a rule that was never broken. Rico may be the only way to bring this out of control monster to heel.
Only problem is, as i understand it, in order to file under Rico you must have at least to separate instances of actions applicable to Rico charges within the previous 12 months. To establish your claim. The first one is your claim and then one other.

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Another problem is, this first part that I bolded has never been proven in any meaningful way - and even if Berman vacates this award, it still won't be proven in any meaningful way. I think only a defamation case would be the only way to show that there was an actual scheme to defraud for the purpose of defamation. THEN perhaps you could pursue some sort of criminal investigation. As of now, there's just simply not enough evidence.

Besides that, I'm not sure if suspending an employee for a month rises to the level of criminal fraud.

Chiuba E. Obele said:

Mortensen of ESPN is lying? Gee, that's shocking

Dennis and Callahan ‏@DandCShow 33m33 minutes ago
Just spoke with the Patriots and once again Chris Mortensen is wrong, the Krafts did not apologize. Details tomorrow morning at 6.

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You mean here the details about the Pats lying right? I mean, Tanguay and MCI surely won't allow the truth to be told.

Mort is a pud .................

gitgronked82 said:

saw this lol. it's just comedy at this point

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Comedy Noir. I'm looking for the last scene, where a disheveled and unkempt Mort's found laying on the floor of a cheap hotel room, surrounded by empty scotch bottles and mumbling about how he trusted his sources.

Well, I can dream, anyway.

TommyD4207 said:

Another problem is, this first part that I bolded has never been proven in any meaningful way - and even if Berman vacates this award, it still won't be proven in any meaningful way. I think only a defamation case would be the only way to show that there was an actual scheme to defraud for the purpose of defamation. THEN perhaps you could pursue some sort of criminal investigation. As of now, there's just simply not enough evidence.

Besides that, I'm not sure if suspending an employee for a month rises to the level of criminal fraud.

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What's the threshold for felony larceny? I'm sure brady's $1.88 MILLION DOLLARS exceeds it...

woolster22 said:

What's the threshold for felony larceny? I'm sure brady's $1.88 MILLION DOLLARS exceeds it...

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It would have to be proven that it was stolen.

As of right now, it's simply a workplace suspension, that might not even hold up in court. So when he loses none of the money, assuming a win in court, then what do you have?

TommyD4207 said:

Another problem is, this first part that I bolded has never been proven in any meaningful way - and even if Berman vacates this award, it still won't be proven in any meaningful way. I think only a defamation case would be the only way to show that there was an actual scheme to defraud for the purpose of defamation. THEN perhaps you could pursue some sort of criminal investigation. As of now, there's just simply not enough evidence.

Besides that, I'm not sure if suspending an employee for a month rises to the level of criminal fraud.

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When the dispenser of justice lies about why he suspends said employee, that is criminal. To lie about why he is upholding a ruling after an arbitration hearing, is even worse.

Criminal? At the very least.