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I was thinking the same exact thing.Harper reminds me a bit of Jabar Gaffney.
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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.I was thinking the same exact thing.Harper reminds me a bit of Jabar Gaffney.
I've liked what I've seen from Harper but think people are falling into that preseason trap again.
Agreed. The PS was made for guys like him, but he has a good shot at making the squad next year.
I've liked what I've seen from Harper but think people are falling into that preseason trap again.
Thats probably the case.Harper is only on the 53 if LaFell starts the season on PUP.
Not sure where the room is on the roster, but further on the depth chart.
These are the number of receptions by the 3rd, 4th and 5th highest total from WRs since Gronk arrived (a watershed event)
2010 24/9/7
2011 15/4/3
2012 21/16/1
2013 37/32/9 (and this was with 6 games of Gronk and an off-injured #2 WR missing 4 games and large parts of others)
2014 27/6/5
So with Edelman, Lafell, Amendola Wayne, and Dobson unless there are serious injury issues expecting Harper to catch more than a handful of passes if he even makes the team is a longshot.
Harper will be amongst oodles of similarly skilled WR's available for the picking come cutdown day.
Having a reliable, proven "passing" RB and "H-Back" in this system is a unknown this year.
Historically those two roles accounted for over 100+ passing targets a year.
Based on the talent on the roster, we might see more 4WR 1TE sets.
Harper will be amongst oodles of similarly skilled WR's available for the picking come cutdown day. I doubt he'll be in high demand as a result. Pats should be in strong position to add him to the PS if they so wish. If not, they'll have a very strong selection of other options instead.
One guy I would love to see added, if he's made available, is Deonte Thompsom. He might be the odd man out in Buffalo. If not him then perhaps Chris Hogan who it seems might also get cut if they keep Thompson instead.
Huh? 100 catches from RB? Since when?
The offense is going to look like the offense has looked. If the guy in Vereens spot isn't as able to be a weapon those plays will go to Gronk. Chandler, Lafell, Edelman, Amendola/Wayne before we suddenly start throwing to the 4th or 5th WR.
How did we go from catches to targets and how did Hernandez come into the discussion?Not catches, targets. If you add up every year since 2010, the "passing" RBs and the H-backs have been targeted by TB over 100+ times. Vereen, Woody, AH, etc. The do not have that proven threat this year.
Nah, that is not our offense. Once in a rare while we will do that, but we will not consistently go empty, especially empty with that package, ie not a RB to make it look like it won't be empty,thereby dictating defensive personell.I agree. That's my point. In the absence of a strong receiving threat out of the backfield, they may use more 4WR 1TE sets would include JE, LaFell, DA AND Wayne.
I agree, with the caveat that a team might cut a guy and replace him with a different guy if they like the upside of the different guy more. All teams do this with bottom end roster guys each and every year. So, there is some risk though, in the case of Harper, I'm not so sure the risk is all that great.There is nothing 'special' about Harper that is going to cause a team to cut a player it kept to pick him up off of waivers.
Every team in the NFL will likely cut a WR in the same skill class as Harper. There is no reason to cut your own then go get the similar guy who doesn't know your system and is starting from scratch.
Agreed but there is no reason to think Harper has shown anyone a reason to believe he has that signifcant upside.I agree, with the caveat that a team might cut a guy and replace him with a different guy if they like the upside of the different guy more. All teams do this with bottom end roster guys each and every year. So, there is some risk though, in the case of Harper, I'm not so sure the risk is all that great.
Agreed. Almost every team in the NFL has a young, undersized, scrappy unknown guy who looks good in the preseason. Very few of them have room for their own young, undersized, scrappy unknown guy let alone the young, undersized, scrappy unknown guys on other rosters.
There is nothing 'special' about Harper that is going to cause a team to cut a player it kept to pick him up off of waivers.
Every team in the NFL will likely cut a WR in the same skill class as Harper. There is no reason to cut your own then go get the similar guy who doesn't know your system and is starting from scratch.
How did we go from catches to targets and how did Hernandez come into the discussion?
The distribution of catches for the 3rd, 4th, 5th WRs is unchanged by who the RB is, whether Hernandez is around or not and any of those factors, with the exception of Gronk being out. With Gronk out we use the #3, and when one is injured #4 becomes #3. Replacing Vereen with White or whoever isn't going to all of a sudden make the 4th and 5th WR a big part of the offense.
Nah, that is not our offense. Once in a rare while we will do that, but we will not consistently go empty, especially empty with that package, ie not a RB to make it look like it won't be empty,thereby dictating defensive personell.
In any event the discussion was that there doesnt seem to be much chance of Harper seeing the football, if he were to make the team.