Peter King and mort report

SVN · Aug 23, 2015

Interesting that he admits he was fed wrong info

Peter King ‏@SI_PeterKing 1h1 hour ago
Peter King retweeted
Ben’s right. In trying to confirm Mort story, I was told it was true. It obviously wasn’t. Believe to this day>>>
Peter King ‏@SI_PeterKing 1h1 hour ago
<<<that person who confirmed believed it to be true, but that doesn’t make the reporting of it right. The story was wrong. It’s my error.
Peter King ‏@SI_PeterKing 1h1 hour ago
<<<Covering the NFL, or any large enterprise, means you develop trust in people who have told you the truth consistently.>>>>
Peter King ‏@SI_PeterKing 1h1 hour ago
<<<This is just another reason why, especially in a story like this one, you can’t take people’s words at face value.

He is talking about his own article
http://mmqb.si.com/2015/01/23/deflategate-patriots-super-bowl-xlix

The condition of the footballs on Sunday is coming into clarity.
FROM ANGER TO NO BIG DEAL

Most NFL coaches and GMs are in Alabama for the Senior Bowl, seemingly a million miles from the epicenter of Deflategate. Greg Bedard found the sentiment decidedly mixed over the severity of a possible Patriots offense.

FULL STORY

This is significant, because it takes weather-as-a-factor out of the possible reasons why New England’s footballs could have lost air while the balls on Indianapolis’ sidelines would have stayed fully inflated. I am told reliably that

The 12 footballs used in the first half for New England, and the 12 footballs used by the Colts, all left the officials’ locker room before the game at the prescribed pressure level of between 12.5 pounds per square inch and 13.5 psi.

All 24 footballs were checked by pressure gauge at halftime. I am told either 11 or 12 of New England’s footballs (ESPN’s Chris Mortensen reported it was 11, and I hear it could have been all 12) had at least two pounds less pressure in them. All 12 Indianapolis footballs were at the prescribed level.

Even peter king was fed the wrong info.

And Steph Stradley calls the report out from peter king in her email chain
http://abovethelaw.com/2015/08/a-deflategate-email-exchange-part-ii/

If I were Commissioner Goodell, my clothes wouldn't fit right, that's for sure.

I think my hypothetical Goodell-Me time machine would have to go back further than the AFC Championship game. To the beginning of the time that Goodell became commissioner. And walking back his desire to make sports leagues into Nancy Gracey justice hammers: very reactive to initial leaks, mob anger, giving lip service to but not really interested in fair process or claims of innocence.

And go back to focusing more on the NFL's core business, which is football.

If you don't think that happened in this situation, check out the tone of this Peter King MMQB article after the initial VERY WRONG leaks happened.

"I am told reliably that...." NOPE!

By then it was already labelled a -Gate.

(King has apologized about that story now, and many others ran with stories that were similar, but millions of dollars later, here we are in federal court over a disputed equipment tampering claim).

Angelpats · Aug 23, 2015

It's great how they don't hesitate to report something wrong but take months to make something right.

IcyPatriot · Aug 23, 2015

They all could relieve themselves of this bad source(s) by exposing them through some other minion.

raduray · Aug 23, 2015

That's all fine for a mea culpa, but why not go farther and do some investigative reporting on the motivation and sourcing of those maliciously false leaks. I'm sure it could be done in some way without compromising sources. But then, King would have to be more that a cute little dog being fed table scraps.

PatsWickedPissah · Aug 23, 2015

So blatantly self serving by King, who should be demoted to Serf.

So quick to report, yet so slow to retort.

Then, no consequences to the credulous source or better yet to the source's LYING source.

Were King a reporter as opposed to actually being league operative with a byline*, he'd investigate who was the primary source and how & why he was fed the bad information. The agenda. There's a story there but the NYJFL does not allow its cowed minions to even THINK of going there.

Crickets.....

* Hat tip to Glen Reynolds, Instapundit

BradyFTW! · Aug 23, 2015

Between Rice and thia, King's league sources are either lying to him or are stupid and generally clueless. Strange that he goes with the latter.

Everyone should keep his sources' track record in mind going forward. They're not to be trusted, therefore he's not to he trusted.

Danger Zone · Aug 23, 2015

As Florio has suggested, without the Mort report and without people in the NFL lying/confirming/leaking the Mort report, Deflategate would have disappeared with barely a hiss of air.

If everyone knew back then that in fact the Patriot footballs had not 2 lbs of psi unaccounted for but .3 psi (and easily explained by a myriad of sloppy measuring procedures/gauges) then Deflategate would never have happened.

Whomever leaked the Mort report has a ****load to answer for in my opinion.. and my money is on Kensil.

Bobsyouruncle · Aug 23, 2015

His source intentionally lied to him. King just doesn't want to lose his source by admitting it.

Another words, King has no integrity. He wants to waive his hands and say mistakes were made, look over there. King is lying.

MagicMarker · Aug 23, 2015

....and if ESPN wasn't so dependent on the NFL, they'd have corrected it.

I don't have my facts right here, but ESPN gets something like 80% of the total fees paid to networks. The NFL isn't bound to ESPN. There's TNT. And, if you think of ESPN as just ABC's sports channel, NBC has a sports channel as does Fox. I think Fox even has two.

So, I can see why ESPN is reluctant to challenge the NFL. However, they decided to become a co-conspirator as well. It would be interested to see if Lester Munson is really incompetent, or if he's doing what ESPN management wants him to.

Koma · Aug 23, 2015

The original false report was fed to Mortensen, who claims he heard this from two or more people (Kensil and someone else). King gets confirmation of the same information. Former referee Gerry Austin goes on ESPN radio and repeats the "11 of 12" story and says the Colts balls were not deflated.

Were King and Austin talking to different people than Mortensen or was the same small group telling lies to contacts in the media? Or, in Austin's case, someone who appear on a high profile show to spread the lies.

Fencer · Aug 23, 2015

The key paragraphs (emphasis mine):

All 24 footballs were checked by pressure gauge at halftime. I am told either 11 or 12 of New England’s footballs (ESPN’s Chris Mortensen reported it was 11, and I hear it could have been all 12) had at least two pounds less pressure in them. All 12 Indianapolis footballs were at the prescribed level.

All 24 footballs were checked by pressure gauge after the game. All 24 checked at the correct pressure—which is one of the last pieces of the puzzle the league needed to determine with certainty that something fishy happened with the Patriots footballs, because the Colts’ balls stayed correctly inflated for the nearly four hours. There had been reports quoting atmospheric experts that cold weather could deflate footballs. But if the Patriots’ balls were all low, and the Colts’ balls all legit, that quashes that theory.

The conclusion: There is little doubt the New England footballs were tampered with by a human.

Koma · Aug 24, 2015

Thinking about this some more, it reflects very poorly on King that he has no curiosity about this story. He wrote a story based on false information a source gave him and his reaction is "I made an error believing that information and I'll try to do better in the future." He doesn't seem to care why he fed a lie in this situation and what that entails, considering his source was either in the league office or heard it from someone who was.

I have no doubt that people have fed King false information before and he's been aware of it. Usually, those situations are tied to contract negotiations, so there is an understandable motive. For example, a GM may claim that a prominent player may be released in order to pressure the player into re-structuring their contract. Or an agent may claim a player is willing to hold out or even retire unless they get a new contract. Both could be bluffs that the team or player has no intention of carrying out, but putting it out there means the other party has to consider that it might be true.

In those situations, the goal of putting out the false information is to gain a better bargaining position. With the false PSI leaks, what was the goal beyond making the Patriots look guilty and distracting them from their SB preparation? Shouldn't King and other media people be interested in finding out why the league wanted to frame a team? That's something out of the ordinary and deserving of attention.

strngplyr · Aug 24, 2015

Danger Zone said:
As Florio has suggested, without the Mort report and without people in the NFL lying/confirming/leaking the Mort report, Deflategate would have disappeared with barely a hiss of air.

If everyone knew back then that in fact the Patriot footballs had not 2 lbs of psi unaccounted for but .3 psi (and easily explained by a myriad of sloppy measuring procedures/gauges) then Deflategate would never have happened.

Whomever leaked the Mort report has a ****load to answer for in my opinion.. and my money is on Kensil.

Listen, we can't all put money on Kensil, or we're not gonna win anything. Let me bet on him and all of you put your money on someone else who didn't do it.

PatsSox363804 · Aug 24, 2015

If King had any balls he would reveal his sources.

raduray · Aug 24, 2015

Koma said:
Thinking about this some more, it reflects very poorly on King that he has no curiosity about this story. He wrote a story based on false information a source gave him and his reaction is "I made an error believing that information and I'll try to do better in the future." He doesn't seem to care why he fed a lie in this situation and what that entails, considering his source was either in the league office or heard it from someone who was.

I have no doubt that people have fed King false information before and he's been aware of it. Usually, those situations are tied to contract negotiations, so there is an understandable motive. For example, a GM may claim that a prominent player may be released in order to pressure the player into re-structuring their contract. Or an agent may claim a player is willing to hold out or even retire unless they get a new contract. Both could be bluffs that the team or player has no intention of carrying out, but putting it out there means the other party has to consider that it might be true.

In those situations, the goal of putting out the false information is to gain a better bargaining position. With the false PSI leaks, what was the goal beyond making the Patriots look guilty and distracting them from their SB preparation? Shouldn't King and other media people be interested in finding out why the league wanted to frame a team? That's something out of the ordinary and deserving of attention.

King writes "So, were we used by someone to get a storyline out in public? Maybe …". And he seems to be satisfied with that "Maybe". No commitment to investigative reporting to explain how and why those false reports were disseminated. That's SI/MMQB Journalistic Integrity.

Oh, and that's on top of sitting on the Carter story for over a year after agreeing ahead of time to be edited by the NFL on that story.

eom · Aug 24, 2015

• Quietly, a message got sent Sunday. I found it very interesting Sunday that 49ers CEO Jed York—who has a chance to be a smart future steward of the game—retweeted an Adam Schefter message about Patriots president Jonathan Kraft saying it might be time to reconsider how player discipline is handled by the NFL. This stemmed from Kraft telling The Sports Hub radio station in Boston on Friday, “I think the world has changed and the complexity of some of the situations—things that I don't think we ever thought we would be dealing with, we're dealing with … There probably needs to be a rethinking so that the league office and the commissioner aren’t put in a spotlight in a way that detracts from the league’s image and the game.” York and the younger Kraft are two of the most respected leaders of tomorrow the league has. Interesting that they, like many league followers, seem to want Roger Goodell out of the unending quicksand of problem cases.

mrscruff · Aug 25, 2015

Awful Announcing weigh in with their opinion:

http://awfulannouncing.com/2015/pet...s-deflategate-flip-flopping-pretty-incredible

goheels22002 · Aug 26, 2015

mrscruff said:
Awful Announcing weigh in with their opinion:

http://awfulannouncing.com/2015/pet...s-deflategate-flip-flopping-pretty-incredible

You know what's annoying about this report? It gives Ben Volin (a.k.a. MCI) credit for outing Chris Mortenson and Peter King for the inaccurate and inflammatory initial 11 of 12 footballs being 2 PSI under-inflated report. Ben Volin did so only after Ian Rapaport of SI wrote about it and this message board burst into flames. Volin was trying to figure out how to make the margins on his column bigger at the time.

If Volin starts getting credit for being some big investigative reporter because he reads posts on patsfans.com, I think we should demand a royalty for the web site.

PatriotsReign · Aug 26, 2015

Bobsyouruncle said:
His source intentionally lied to him. King just doesn't want to lose his source by admitting it.

Another words, King has no integrity. He wants to waive his hands and say mistakes were made, look over there. King is lying.

"In other words"....not "Another words"....sorry, but that was killing me!

Wax Frog · Aug 26, 2015

Danger Zone said:
Whomever leaked the Mort report has a ****load to answer for in my opinion.. and my money is on Kensil.

If if there is anything remotely like karma in this life, that mother****** is going to burn!

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