Wayne: NE offense unlike anything I've played in

SHOWTIME15 · Aug 25, 2015

someone from the PFT comment section wrote this:

Reggie Wayne HOF Certainties:

Lord Manning will introduce #87

Irsay will be passed out in the front row.

Caldwell will show-up to the ceremony two weeks late.

Polian will also give a speech on the virtues of not going for perfect season in 2009.

Marvin Harrison will run security

Hank Baskett will drop something.

Gonzo will get concussed on way to ceremony

farn · Aug 25, 2015

3M$... Gotta think BB sees something there. Hoping he is right.

FirstAndGoal · Aug 25, 2015

BradyFTW! said:
The general consensus on Tom Moore offenses, at least, is that they mostly boil down to superior execution of relatively simple concepts. So yes, pretty simple when compared to all of the reads that the Pats' offense expects WRs to make.

Yes, that's exactly right. The offense is not complicated. It depends on execution and (when Manning was running it) 4 plays. Two running and two passing choices called in the huddle. Depending on how the defense plays it, Manning makes the choice. The plays themselves are not complicated.

Obviously, they have more than 4 plays but they go to the line with 4 choices. The design of the plays are meant to expose something different depending on the defense and thus Manning making the choice that exposes that... the plays themselves are fairly straightforward.

goheels22002 · Aug 25, 2015

The big adjustment for Reggie Wayne will be getting used to a football inflated to exactly 12.5 PSI that does not look like a duck.

Palm Beach Pats Fan · Aug 25, 2015

Palm Beach Pats Fan · Aug 25, 2015

"I've been a part of a cheating, whining organization for 14 years, a club who want to win so badly that they'd pump in crowd noise, get the rules changed, crank up the heat in the visitor's locker room to 90 degrees, and then whine to the NFL with make-believe stories as to why other teams routed them off the field. I've now graduated. I am blessed. And your owner even seems sober"

note: I just DREAMED the above quote, though accurate in its details

captain stone · Aug 25, 2015

TommyBrady12 said:
someone from the PFT comment section wrote this:

Reggie Wayne HOF Certainties:

…Polian, while drunk off his ass again, will also give a speech on the virtues of not going for perfect season in 2009...

Completed the quote.

Bourne Again Christian · Aug 25, 2015

Peyton should thank the bears gm for his lomabardi the fact they could get nobody better than Grossman to lead a superbowl defense.

Bourne Again Christian · Aug 25, 2015

with Orton or FitzPatrick they win that Superbowl

buile · Aug 25, 2015

Palm Beach Pats Fan said:
I think he picked "15" because it's his 15th season

Nope, he definitely challenged Gronk: "Arm-wrestle for 87!" Wayne wears 15 now.

mikey m · Aug 25, 2015

FourierSeries said:
He should ask Josh Boyce for some pointers. The guy clearly has an impeccable grasp of our offense.

Also can't go wrong with shadowing Jake Bequette. Can make you an immediate roster lock.

hypotherion · Aug 25, 2015

I liked this quote:

Jeff Howe‏@jeffphowe
Wayne told Brady: "During practice, whenever you want to go to the side and do something extra, I’m all for it."

https://twitter.com/jeffphowe/status/636247518356111360

PP2 · Aug 25, 2015

Deus Irae said:
There's a big similarity between the Colts and Patriots passing offense, and that is precision. Both require a player to be in exactly the right spot at exactly the right time.

Where the Patriots and Colts differ, according to everything I've heard and read, is in:

Number of plays in playbook
Requirement of WRs to make post-snap reads that will match up with the QB's post-snap reads

Kind of like saying a car is similar to a truck because both have four wheels.

Colts/Pats have an evolved version of the E-P offense, but where they differ, and vastly I might add is that the Patriots have evolved into a system, so for them there is no route tree, only concepts- i.e. "ghost" (stick or turn) or "tosser," (double-slant) also there is no offense philosophy (no definitive traits). What you see week 1 might not be what you see week 3. But with Manning what you see week 1 is the same as what you see the rest of the other weeks.

With this modified E-P system, the idea is that no matter the formation or alignment you have an outside, an inside and a middle receiver, so you can run essentially the same play out of different formations/personnel, but the reads/routes can stay the same or simply get flipped. The defense is forced to react and change to the formation and the package on the field, but Brady can essentially stay with the same reads and just put on window dressing such as flipping the formation or shift concepts L-R to R-L, which is why he can just say "alabama" in no huddle a few times on the same drive and get totally different results. It's why we have been killing other teams in no huddle.

Manning's/Brady's progression reads are also different. Manning goes WR1-2-3-TE every single freaking time, but Brady's reads are scans (either L-R, or R-L) which is logistically better as his eyes aren't darting all over the field (unless the play breaks down).

Deus Irae · Aug 25, 2015

PP2 said:
Kind of like saying a car is similar to a truck because both have four wheels.

No, it's nothing like that, at all.

Bobsyouruncle · Aug 25, 2015

Reggie Wayne:

"In NE they have these players, I think they call them running backs or something, and they give them the ball without passing it or anything. I was at practice and we were on the goal line and Tom gave it to a running back to score and I was like "Tom, you won't get the touchdown pass on your stats like that!" and he said "so what."

Man, I tell you I've never seen anything like it, I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here."

Danger Zone · Aug 25, 2015

PP2 said:
Kind of like saying a car is similar to a truck because both have four wheels.

Colts/Pats have an evolved version of the E-P offense, but where they differ, and vastly I might add is that the Patriots have evolved into a system, so for them there is no route tree (Manning), only concepts- i.e. "ghost" (stick or turn) or "tosser," (double-slant) also there is no offense philosophy (no definitive traits). What you see week 1 might not be what you see week 3. But with Manning what you see week 1 is the same as what you see the rest of the other weeks.

With this modified E-P system, the idea is that no matter the formation or alignment you have an outside, an inside and a middle receiver, so you can run essentially the same play out of different formations/personnel, but the reads/routes can stay the same or simply get flipped. The defense is forced to react and change to the formation and the package on the field, but Brady can essentially stay with the same reads and just put on window dressing such as flipping the formation or shift concepts L-R to R-L, which is why he can just say "alabama" in no huddle a few times on the same drive and get totally different results. It's why we have been killing other teams in no huddle.

Manning's/Brady's progression reads are also different. Manning goes WR1-2-3-TE every single freaking time, but Brady's reads are scans (either L-R, or R-L) which is logistically better as his eyes aren't darting all over the field (unless the play breaks down).

Deus Irae said:
No, it's nothing like that, at all.

One of these posts is not like the other.

Wheelman · Aug 25, 2015

BradyFTW! said:
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a little concerned. He's played his entire career in a very simple offense, so we don't really know either way how quickly he can pick a playbook up. And by coming in in week 2 of the preseason, we're not giving him a ton of time.

He's by all accounts a really hard worker, though, so I'm sure there won't be any lack of effort. Wouldn't surprise me if he doesn't see the field much for the first couple weeks, though. We'll just have to wait and see how quickly he picks things up.

I remember when the colts were sucking for Luck and they were going to get Kerry Collins to play, Reggie Wayne was like "This ain't no simple offense". So I'm assuming it's not Chad Ochocinco simple offense like the bengals one.

Silver Blue&Red · Aug 25, 2015

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-s...why-drive-receivers-crazy-233247212--nfl.html.......

http://grantland.com/features/how-t...helped-maintain-dominance-tom-brady-patriots/ Pats offense is leaps and bounds more complicated than the C**ts offense.

manxman2601 · Aug 25, 2015

hypotherion said:
I liked this quote:

Jeff Howe‏@jeffphowe
Wayne told Brady: "During practice, whenever you want to go to the side and do something extra, I’m all for it."

https://twitter.com/jeffphowe/status/636247518356111360

Isn't that what a prostitute says?

BingoBrown · Aug 25, 2015

FourierSeries said:
He should ask Josh Boyce for some pointers. The guy clearly has an impeccable grasp of our offense.

I'm glad Boyce can grasp something,footballs ain't it

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