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This maneuver seems a bit juvenile, if you ask me (and no one did but I'm throwing my 2 cents in anyway :D). The way they are trying to maneuver around the filing deadline by sending a letter instead of an official filing. I almost feel like Berman's reaction would be just to roll his eyes at how childish it is.

I heard speculation on WEEI that now Kessler and the NFLPA will have to file their response to this response.... I think that maybe the smart thing to do is just let the immature children have the last word (for now) and hopefully the Judge views this letter for the silliness it is.
 
This maneuver seems a bit juvenile, if you ask me (and no one did but I'm throwing my 2 cents in anyway :D). The way they are trying to maneuver around the filing deadline by sending a letter instead of an official filing. I almost feel like Berman's reaction would be just to roll his eyes at how childish it is.

I heard speculation on WEEI that now Kessler and the NFLPA will have to file their response to this response.... I think that maybe the smart thing to do is just let the immature children have the last word (for now) and hopefully the Judge views this letter for the silliness it is.
I've never litigated anything in my life, but I don't think Kessler can leave this letter unanswered. Just my two cents, which might be worth just about that much. ;) By submitting it as a letter and not a brief, it seems to me that the NFL has left open the possibility that the NFLPA could reply with a letter of its own.
 
This maneuver seems a bit juvenile, if you ask me (and no one did but I'm throwing my 2 cents in anyway :D). The way they are trying to maneuver around the filing deadline by sending a letter instead of an official filing. I almost feel like Berman's reaction would be just to roll his eyes at how childish it is.

I heard speculation on WEEI that now Kessler and the NFLPA will have to file their response to this response.... I think that maybe the smart thing to do is just let the immature children have the last word (for now) and hopefully the Judge views this letter for the silliness it is.

I also think it might have been a strategic mistake by the NFL. By filing that response, they've implicitly acknowledged that their entire original argument is blown up. Originally, their argument was essentially "an appeal happened, the arbitrator made his decision, the end. Nothing else matters, and it's never the court's place to interfere with the results of a collectively bargained appeal process".

That has been the entirety of their argument since day one. Basic standards of fairness don't matter. Due process doesn't matter. Fundamental fairness doesn't matter. Law of the shop doesn't matter. Reasonable interpretation of intent doesn't matter. Lying and willfully misrepresenting evidence doesn't matter. The NFL claimed that it didn't even have to defend itself against these various charges, because the argument couldn't even get to that point. All that mattered was appeal happened, and the arbitrator decided what he decided.

In yesterday's response, the NFL felt the need to clarify that this case is different from all those other cases where awards were vacated. In those cases, there were problems with the arbitrator. Maybe he had a conflict of interest. Maybe he went beyond the scope of his authority. Maybe his award was contrary to his own findings.

But even in making this distinction, the NFL validated the whole point that Kessler was trying to make in the first place. When Kessler cited these 15 cases, the only point he was making is that the arbitrator's authority is not infallible. Misconduct by the arbitrator is grounds for vacating an award- that's all Kessler was trying to say. And clearly it was a point well-made, because now the NFL felt the need to go back and essentially agree with him. All the NFL has done here is seek to explain why Goodell's rampant misconduct is somehow different and more okay than other arbitrators' rampant misconduct that led to their awards being vacated. But just by participating in this debate, the NFL has acknowledged that the core point that Kessler was trying to make is the correct one. Goodell's word isn't infallible just because they want it to be.

The argument has now shifted from "it doesn't matter if Goodell engaged in rampant misconduct" to "sure, some forms of misconduct are sufficient to vacate an award, but we feel like the misconduct that he engaged in is better than those other forms of misconduct." Seems like a pretty clear win for Brady.

I dunno if it would've been better for the NFL to ignore those 18 cases and continue to assert its original position--I'm no lawyer and frankly I have no idea what I'm talking about--but it seems like their case just got a lot weaker simply by virtue of having to respond.
 
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Late sur-replies happen all the time. It really isn't that big a deal. Berman's law clerk is more than capable of finding and reading all of these cases.

What doesn't happen all the time is a ridiculous decision almost completely devoid of reality. Article 46 of the CBA doesn't address that and that is no surprise because no one expects a hearing officer or arbitrator, conflicted or not, to issue a punishment ridiculously disproportionate to the purported rule violation. This is especially true where the rule is honored in the breach and the evidence of the rule violation is so flimsy a senior partner in a large New York law firm and/or a general counsel to a famous football organization are forced to fabricate a new legal standard heretofore unknown to any practicing lawyer in the United States.
 
I've never litigated anything in my life, but I don't think Kessler can leave this letter unanswered. Just my two cents, which might be worth just about that much. ;) By submitting it as a letter and not a brief, it seems to me that the NFL has left open the possibility that the NFLPA could reply with a letter of its own.
From your lips to Kessler's ears! :D
 
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This is exactly what I was trying to articulate a few posts back. In that response, the NFL acknowledged that awards are to be vacated in the event of "extreme" arbitrator misconduct. Win for the NFLPA, since that's exactly the point they were trying to make in the first place. The NFL is now left to grasp at straws trying to explain how Goodell's conduct wasn't as bad as those other guys'. Whatever you have to say about the merits of their previous (now debunked, by their own admission) position, it was at least clear and wasn't subject to much in the way of interpretation. But now that firm line that they had nicely drawn in the sand is gone.

Also, I'm glad to see Kessler explicitly hammering on the point that "yes, the CBA entitles you to act as arbitrator. It does not (and cannot) entitle you to arbitrate without regard for federal law".
 
Time for Bob Kraft to start erecting a Jeffrey Kessler statue in front of Gillette.
 
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This is exactly what I was trying to articulate a few posts back. In that response, the NFL acknowledged that awards are to be vacated in the event of "extreme" arbitrator misconduct. Win for the NFLPA.

Also, I'm glad to see Kessler explicitly hammering on the point that "yes, the CBA entitles you to act as arbitrator. It does not (and cannot) entitle you to arbitrate without regard for federal law".

This was also another opportunity for Kessler to hammer the NFL on the fairness of the process - refusal to make Pash available for testimony, refusal to even discuss the delegation issue and withholding all of the Wells interview notes.
 
FWIW:
Michael McCann‏@McCannSportsLaw
Don't expect much impact from the dueling letters by NFL and NFLPA lawyers over last two days. Judges usually aren't fans of this practice.
 
I've seen several people say their was no deadline for the nfl to respond. ...I could have swore last week I seen a deadline posted for both to respond.....am I missing something?
 
I think this will settle in the 11th hour.
 
Time for Bob Kraft to start erecting a Jeffrey Kessler statue in front of Gillette.

Kessler is the opposition attorney to Kraft and the NFL.
 
FWIW:
Michael McCann‏@McCannSportsLaw
Don't expect much impact from the dueling letters by NFL and NFLPA lawyers over last two days. Judges usually aren't fans of this practice.

I believe Berman is pissed with all this childish discussion and is about to unleash the focking fury. This should not even be a case.

I have a simple question, it looks like they are playing a game right now, Berman sided with Brady, he wants to rule for Brady, the NFL knows that and is playing their only card. It looks like they are ready to lose and appeal and Berman might have a reason to want to avoid that so he is putting all his efforts in forcing a settlement.

My question is, the NFL appeal could be rejected? I mean, realistically, because from what I've read the chances are slim.

Because, if Berman when gets to rule the case, in his letter justifying his decision, if he goes nuclear on the NFL and humiliate then in a way that they would leave the court not even remembering their home address, would that be enough for the supreme court to reject their appeal, based on the fact that a federal judge just destroyed their case and explained all the inconsistencies on it? Like "seriously? you guys still wanna appeal, are ya focking serious?"
 
I think this will settle in the 11th hour.
I dunna know @SVN. It's possible I guess but I can't find any indicators that would let us hope that something like that is possible at this point.

Things have gotten contentious, bloody and personal.
 
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