Devin McCourty "Frustrated" After Spending time at CB Saturday Night

Devin McCourty "Frustrated" After Spending time at CB Saturday Night

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There's no question that the Patriots are still in need of answers opposite Malcolm Butler at the cornerback position, and that didn't change much Saturday night.

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BB is genius. He has million scenarios in his head for future.
Mccourty getting money for safety and playing CB position for less value.
Last year i was scrathing my head, why they dont sign Revis during the season where he clearly show that he is back in his form. But BB knew that Revis ll be gone and he would get compensatory pick. He ditched Browner arrington. He gets some veteran CB in trial and thinks if they dont show, Mcourty ll be our Cb, thats way he drafted S in 2rd. If something doesnt show up, he has back up plan.
Mcourty to CB isnt permanent or maybe its just preseason, but the fact BB has plan shows u his value.
But if Mcourty would be moved to CB that means only one thing. Masterhoodie had a plan year ago.

My initial reaction to McCourty's reaction to playing CB is this. STFU, and man up. The Pats are paying him a lot of money to play football. His 5 year $47.5 MM contract averages almost $10MM/yr. Even in his cap friendly first year, McCourty has the 6th highest cap number on the team.

So my opinion is that Devin should play wherever the F##K Matt wants him to play and LIKE it. In fact I's sad to say that, if these reports are true, I've lost a bit of respect for him. Of course, an apology will be in order from me, if his words were twisted to evoke the most controversial take, Not that the mediots would EVER do something like that.

I agree I'd expect something more along the lines wherever coach wants me whatever it does to help the team win.
Hope the words were taken out of context and not Revis poisoning him one year on the squad.

fair catch fryar said:

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I was thinking the exact same thing...the secondary is better as a unit when Devin McCourty is at S.

If he was frustrated playing CB last night, then he should try to imagine my frustration watching him try
to play CB last night.

This is disappointing.

I don't see anything wrong with McCourty's comments.

This totally goes against "do your job". **** McCourty, he needs to stop whining. He's only frustrated with it because he sucks at playing corner and he knows it.

fair catch fryar said:

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Yes...Devin was not playing at Pro-Bowl level at CB...as he mentioned in so many words. I guess he was speaking the truth.

I think McCourty has shown that hes not a NFL caliber CB, however he is a top tier Safety. It doesn't make sense to have him NOT play safety,

The drop off between him and the next safety, is larger then the drop off between him and the next CB, considering hes not a great corner

chasa said:

I think McCourty has shown that hes not a NFL caliber CB, however he is a top tier Safety. It doesn't make sense to have him NOT play safety,

The drop off between him and the next safety, is larger then the drop off between him and the next CB, considering hes not a great corner

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I have to disagree with your uniformed characterization of McCourty as not being a good CB. Watching clips of the game on TV last night, they showed the TD pass McCourty allegedly gave up. I dont know about you, but it seemed clear to me that Devin was dropping back into a short zone and let his man go expecting him to be picked up by someone else. Now it COULD have been his own mental error, but either way, the man wasn't left open because McCourty isn't a capable CB, it was due to a mental breakdown of...someone.

Way too often the "experts" and mediots see a pass completed and assume that the guy closest to the receiver is automatically is the culprit. Sometimes it's the correct assumption, but more times than they'd like to admit, when the film is broken down, it isn't.

I know it's a lot easier to parrot the mediots when they tell you that someone was good or bad, however its probably wiser and more prudent to check it out yourself, before making blanket characterizations.

It is too bad McC isn't a top flight CB. I'd love to have him be excellent and shore up Butler's opposite side. And I think Chung/Harmon/Richards can be productive.

Having said that - there doesn't seem to be an advantage here and I hope that it is "just to see what can be done in an emergency". However : none of the CBs outside of Butler have been shining and I am hoping Brown is a potential solution.

patfanken said:

I have to disagree with your uniformed characterization of McCourty as not being a good CB. Watching clips of the game on TV last night, they showed the TD pass McCourty allegedly gave up. I dont know about you, but it seemed clear to me that Devin was dropping back into a short zone and let his man go expecting him to be picked up by someone else. Now it COULD have been his own mental error, but either way, the man wasn't left open because McCourty isn't a capable CB, it was due to a mental breakdown of...someone.

Way too often the "experts" and mediots see a pass completed and assume that the guy closest to the receiver is automatically is the culprit. Sometimes it's the correct assumption, but more times than they'd like to admit, when the film is broken down, it isn't.

I know it's a lot easier to parrot the mediots when they tell you that someone was good or bad, however its probably wiser and more prudent to check it out yourself, before making blanket characterizations.

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I've watched Mccourty play QB for full seasons. I'd much rather him be a safety and help the other guys at CB, then have him play CB, and have next to nothing in terms of help because our safties are not very good.

Mccourty is a top 3 safety in the league,
Mccourty doesn't break the top 10 for CB, I'd go so far as to say he probably isn't in the top 16.

If someone else messes up with Devin at safety, Devin can clean it up.
If devin messes up at CB it'll probably be a TD.

chasa said:

I've watched Mccourty play QB for full seasons. I'd much rather him be a safety and help the other guys at CB, then have him play CB, and have next to nothing in terms of help because our safties are not very good.

Mccourty is a top 3 safety in the league,
Mccourty doesn't break the top 10 for CB, I'd go so far as to say he probably isn't in the top 16.

If someone else messes up with Devin at safety, Devin can clean it up.
If devin messes up at CB it'll probably be a TD.

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I can see your point, and all things being equal I'd agree with you. However as coach, its your obligation to get your best players on the field. Now I have a much higher opinion of McCourty's CB play.

I DO believe he's a top 16 CB or at least could be if he played the position full time. He did a good enough job his rookie year to make the pro bowl. He slipped his 2nd year mostly because of a defensive change that forced into playing more man (which he'd never played much in college). Also he was the victim of several great passes and catches that when they happen are impossible to defend. Criticism of his 2nd year was warranted, but WAY over blown.

I also agree that he's a top 3 FS. But here's my problem. Looking at my roster I see a wealth of depth at te S position, and a lot of question marks at CB. Now I have a guy who was good enough to make a pro bowl at CB, I'd be a fool not to see if my best combination of DB's doesn't include him at CB. So I play him out there and see if the upgrade at CB is worth a possible downgrade at S.

At that point its just a matter to see how well your S's play in McCourty's absence, and/or bow much better your CB's play with McCourty out there. It could be that this position switch will never be seen again. But THAT decision will be made by the STAFF based on what they see on film and in the practices, NOT by the likes of us.

I stand by my original disappointnent in Devin's comments after the game. He has done such a great job as a young leader that I held him to a higher standard. I would have expected him to understand why this was being done and to seem a lot less selfish and think about what was best for the team.

patfanken said:

I have to disagree with your uniformed characterization of McCourty as not being a good CB. Watching clips of the game on TV last night, they showed the TD pass McCourty allegedly gave up. I dont know about you, but it seemed clear to me that Devin was dropping back into a short zone and let his man go expecting him to be picked up by someone else. Now it COULD have been his own mental error, but either way, the man wasn't left open because McCourty isn't a capable CB, it was due to a mental breakdown of...someone.

Way too often the "experts" and mediots see a pass completed and assume that the guy closest to the receiver is automatically is the culprit. Sometimes it's the correct assumption, but more times than they'd like to admit, when the film is broken down, it isn't.

I know it's a lot easier to parrot the mediots when they tell you that someone was good or bad, however its probably wiser and more prudent to check it out yourself, before making blanket characterizations.

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I saw that the same way as well. He was WAY too off of Cooks for it to be a clean beat, he had to have been playing another assignment. Like you said, whether that was the right thing for him to do or not in that playcall is something we'll never know.

I also take exception to some calling the play in the end zone a "drop" by the receiver. McCourty made a nice place to punch that ball out, and he deserves credit for that. If Revis did it, it would be a "veteran move by an elite playmaker." McC does it and it's, "He got beat but the receiver dropped it."

...but apparently not as frustrated as the Gronk. That boy is about to explode...

I didn't hear what he actually said and have only read about it, so I'm judging with a slight bias, but I was hoping that he was a little more thick skinned about the situation. Sure, he's playing out of his comfort zone, but as Bill has shown in the past, sometimes certain players will be called upon in a crunch to play outside their positions. And since it's only preseason, McCourty, rather than feeling down, should be more enthusiastic as this is the best time to practice and improve on his situation.

I don't think it so much as going against the team motto "Do your job [well]", but it feels like it's a letdown from what we've experienced in the past from the likes of Troy Brown.

patfanken said:

I DO believe he's a top 16 CB or at least could be if he played the position full time.

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I'm as big a McCourty fan as there is, but what leads to believe this is the case?