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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/08/21/espn-legal-analyst-declares-nfl-will-win-brady-case/

A few highlights:

Regarding the Tom Brady suspension, ESPN legal analyst Lester Munson has been lying or uninformed for more than three months now.

or

Munson already knows that three randomly-assigned judges from a total available panel of 22 would unanimously agree that Judge Berman is clearly wrong. To support his certainty in this regard, Munson points to the Maurice Clarett legal attack on the draft from 11 years ago — which initially went against the NFL but went the other way on appeal — as proof.

Of course, the Clarett case involved entirely different facts, circumstances, and legal principles. But since the Second Circuit already has reversed a Manhattan federal court once before in a case involving the NFL, it’ll happen every time, right?

or

I don’t know Lester Munson personally, and I have no reason to question his intelligence or lack thereof. Except, that is, for the fact that he was once suspended by the Illinois Attorney Registration and Disciplinary Commission in a case that included a finding that he failed to maintain separate accounts for client funds from settlements and for his business expenses.

Which, as any lawyer can tell you, is incredibly uninformed.
 
Florio has been on top of this from the beginning. He is Agent Mulder always seeking the truth and ready to expose it for what it is.

I get the impression although a Steeler fan, he doesn't like what's going on here one bit. It seems very personal to him and I'm glad he has put this on his shoulders and called it like it is.

Very appreciative of his work the last 6 or 7 months.
 
Dan Lebatard kinda roasted Munson while he was on the air consistently grilling him asking him why no other legal expert who has commented on this agrees with Munson. Munson basically said he was more experienced and more educated than all the others.

I am surprised ESPN puts him on the air. He really comes off as that angry old man character that Dana Carvey used to do on SNL. "Back in the day, judges upheld arbitration rulings... AND THAT WAS THE WAY IT WAS AND WE LIKED IT!"

 
Calls out 1991 misconduct. Yikes.
 
I believe it means the nfl has said all they have to say and defense rests -- or prosection, wtfever they are
 
What does this tweet mean?

Daniel Wallach ‏@WALLACHLEGAL 8m8 minutes ago
It's almost official: with one hour left before deadline, NFL still hasn't filed an answer to Brady's counterclaim, and probably won't.

When the MN judge threw the NFLPA's case out of court. They filed it in NYC as a counter claim to the NFL's case. The NFL had until today to file a response to that counter claim. It judge gives the NFL more opportunity to give more written arguments to the NFL. Considering their whole case is that Article 46 lets Goodell do whatever they want and the judge legally cannot pass judgement on his decision (which is confusing why they would file a case in the first place to affirm his decision), I doubt they have much more to provide.
 
Munson is to the NFL what Comical Ali or Baghdad Bob was to Iraq.

He said all of these in spite of tomahawks raining down on Baghdad with Marines and the Army in Baghdad.
 
When the MN judge threw the NFLPA's case out of court. They filed it in NYC as a counter claim to the NFL's case. The NFL had until today to file a response to that counter claim. It judge gives the NFL more opportunity to give more written arguments to the NFL. Considering their whole case is that Article 46 lets Goodell do whatever they want and the judge legally cannot pass judgement on his decision (which is confusing why they would file a case in the first place to affirm his decision), I doubt they have much more to provide.


Sorry for the ignorance but how is that Brady's counter claim?
 
Florio has been on top of this from the beginning. He is Agent Mulder always seeking the truth and ready to expose it for what it is.

I get the impression although a Steeler fan, he doesn't like what's going on here one bit. It seems very personal to him and I'm glad he has put this on his shoulders and called it like it is.

Very appreciative of his work the last 6 or 7 months.

Steelers fans watched Roethlisberger get suspended for something that no charges were ever filed over. On that basis alone, they should be on our side. I think they just really don't like Brady and have a "we got ours, so you deserve to get yours" mentality in all of this.
 
When the MN judge threw the NFLPA's case out of court. They filed it in NYC as a counter claim to the NFL's case. The NFL had until today to file a response to that counter claim. It judge gives the NFL more opportunity to give more written arguments to the NFL. Considering their whole case is that Article 46 lets Goodell do whatever they want and the judge legally cannot pass judgement on his decision (which is confusing why they would file a case in the first place to affirm his decision), I doubt they have much more to provide.

I believe this is the gist of their case

 
Sorry for the ignorance but how is that Brady's counter claim?

When one side files first and then the other side files, it is always the counter claim. If the NFLPA won jurisdiction in MN, they would have had the claim and the NFL would have filed the counter claim. Although they might not have filed suit in MN since they only filed in NY to win jurisdiction. Which appears to be a strategy that has blown up in their face.
 
Steelers fans watched Roethlisberger get suspended for something that no charges were ever filed over. On that basis alone, they should be on our side. I think they just really don't like Brady and have a "we got ours, so you deserve to get yours" mentality in all of this.

Steelers fans: "Patriots fans didn't speak up in defense when..."
Saints fans: "Patriots fans didn't speak up in defense when..."
Vikings fans: "Patriots fans didn't speak up in defense when..."
Panthers fans: "Patriots fans didn't speak up in defense when..."
Cowboys/Redskins fans: "Patriots fans didn't speak up in defense when..."

And, for the most part, they're right.



First they came for the ...
 
Steelers fans: "Patriots fans didn't speak up in defense when..."
Saints fans: "Patriots fans didn't speak up in defense when..."
Vikings fans: "Patriots fans didn't speak up in defense when..."
Panthers fans: "Patriots fans didn't speak up in defense when..."
Cowboys/Redskins fans: "Patriots fans didn't speak up in defense when..."

And, for the most part, they're right.



First they came for the ...

Yup, we've collectively been on the other side of "31 fanbases like watching 1 get screwed over" a good few times. Hopefully we at least learn our lesson going forward.
 
When one side files first and then the other side files, it is always the counter claim. If the NFLPA won jurisdiction in MN, they would have had the claim and the NFL would have filed the counter claim. Although they might not have filed suit in MN since they only filed in NY to win jurisdiction. Which appears to be a strategy that has blown up in their face.


Isn't the NFL's argument during the last few weeks considered their response to the counterclaim?

How "big" of an issue is this?
 
Isn't the NFL's argument during the last few weeks considered their response to the counterclaim?

How "big" of an issue is this?

It is all more of a technicality. Both sides have filed multiple sets of briefs. The NFL just had one more bite at the apple at getting their case across with a response to the counter claim. They probably figured another 15 pages wasn't going to help their cause at this point especially if they were just going to argue the same stuff the judge has been blowing apart the last week.

BTW, I am speaking with fairly limited legal knowledge. So any legal expert can correct any of my posts on this stuff. I don't mind being called out on being wrong. I know my limitations on this.
 
It is all more of a technicality. Both sides have filed multiple sets of briefs. The NFL just had one more bite at the apple at getting their case across with a response to the counter claim. They probably figured another 15 pages wasn't going to help their cause at this point especially if they were just going to argue the same stuff the judge has been blowing apart the last week.

BTW, I am speaking with fairly limited legal knowledge. So any legal expert can correct any of my posts on this stuff. I don't mind being called out on being wrong. I know my limitations on this.

Limited Legal Knowledge? You have been pretty accurate thus far.

Thanks for the follow up.
 
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