August 19th hearing transcript now available

RunAmok · Aug 21, 2015

Here's my summary:

The NFL reminded me of the Colts in the 2nd half of the AFCC game.

pdangle · Aug 21, 2015

Reportedly, a portion of Brady's appeal testimony statement was read into record. Has anyone seen this, or mention of it, in the transcript? I couldn't find it, but only skimmed the 2nd half.

adam941 · Aug 21, 2015

Palm Beach Pats Fan said:
I thought it was interesting that Nash insisted that deflation was obviously an integrity of the game issue because it was an action that would create an unfair advantage (non-level playing field),

yet...

Kessler pointed out that some very specific wording under equipment violations rules, such as the prohibition on the use of stick-em, wherein the rule points out that a fine is warranted because such actions would create an unfair advantage.

So there are indeed well-defined punishments for actions that within a game are said to create an unfair advantage, yet the NFL seems to be arguing that this level of severity, to the point of creating an unfair advantage, is precisely what flips any ball deflation violation into being an integrity of the game issue.

Their argument is leaky.

And let's not forget how much of an unfair advantage it provided as evidenced by the second half when the Pats were FORCED to play on an even playing field.

Hammer of Thor · Aug 21, 2015

pdangle said:
Reportedly, a portion of Brady's appeal testimony statement was read into record. Has anyone seen this, or mention of it, in the transcript? I couldn't find it, but only skimmed the 2nd half.

Last few pages, I think 80-81. Talks about the rationale for the 12.5 psi setting.

Tony2046 · Aug 21, 2015

pdangle said:
Reportedly, a portion of Brady's appeal testimony statement was read into record. Has anyone seen this, or mention of it, in the transcript? I couldn't find it, but only skimmed the 2nd half.

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Deus Irae · Aug 21, 2015

Bobsyouruncle said:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentcloud.org/documents/2291304/deflategate-hearing-transcript.pdf

Thank you very much.

JPPT1974 · Aug 21, 2015

Really hope that this can come to an end. As it has dragged on way too long.

Tony2046 · Aug 21, 2015

A little humorous jab at Kessler.

MR. KESSLER: Your Honor, I will be brief and go in reverse order. I will start first with fundamental fairness. I direct the Court's attention --
THE COURT: I will anticipate that you get the order right, I'm not so sure that you will do it briefly.

eom · Aug 21, 2015

Daniel Wallach ‏@WALLACHLEGAL 3m3 minutes ago

I have a full print-out of the transcript in Brady vs. NFL, and will post highlights later tonight (and screenshots where possible)

JDot · Aug 21, 2015

@raduray props on the cliff notes.

Deus Irae · Aug 21, 2015

We know a Colts ball official took one of the balls, the so-called twelfth ball, and by the way, violated the rule by tampering with the ball during the game. He wasn't disciplined.

That one still makes me chuckle, every time.

Deus Irae · Aug 21, 2015

In fact, the reason, your Honor, you could say why am I not arguing delegation to you? I was never able to present it below. I have no record. I have no facts. All I have is Commissioner Goodell's testimony and his pronouncement that as the arbitrator I find I am credible and I'm telling the truth and I did nothing wrong. That's Commissioner Goodell's finding about himself.

Giggle factor: High

VectorPrime · Aug 21, 2015

Deus Irae said:
Giggle factor: High

How does that not get one literally laughed out of the court room?

The Boston Patriot · Aug 21, 2015

Bobsyouruncle said:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentcloud.org/documents/2291304/deflategate-hearing-transcript.pdf

Thank you. Beats the hell out of giving BN any clicks.

JDot · Aug 21, 2015

@Deus Irae can you give me that 5 point thing you posted in regards to the Garvey MLB case.

EDIT:NVM Deus I found your post explaining it. Thanks.

Bobsyouruncle · Aug 21, 2015

JDot said:
@Deus Irae can you give me that 5 point thing you posted in regards to the Garvey MLB case.

EDIT:NVM Deus I found your post explaining it. Thanks.

Where is it?

Froob · Aug 21, 2015

Deus Irae said:
That one still makes me chuckle, every time.

One might say he violated the integrity of the game.

JDot · Aug 21, 2015

Bobsyouruncle said:
Where is it?

Post #48. Should be 7 post from the top of the page if the link does not straight to Deus post.

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england...holland-vs-munson.1122533/page-3#post-4294943

Deus Irae · Aug 21, 2015

But Mr. Pash, they said well, we don't have to provide him because he didn't really do anything. Well, in all due respect, I'm entitled to probe that factually in a fundamentally fair hearing. So I asked Mr. Wells about this, he said he knows Mr. Pash made comments. Mr. Wells didn't know what those comments were. Why? Because he probably gave them to Mr. Reisner or one of the other associates or people at Paul Weiss. So Mr. Wells sort of isolated himself. He didn't even know how much those comments affected what was in there or not, nobody knows because there was no record, or what other involvement he had.

...

Gronkowski123 · Aug 21, 2015

even more proof that this whole thing is a ****ing sham.
nfl wasted millions on a witchhunt. such garbage...

August 19th hearing transcript now available

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