What happens this winter

When footballs start deflating of their own accord by 1 or 2 PSI or even more in extreme places like GB? Does the NFL apologize and give back $+picks? Haha sorry bad joke. Seriously though, I am curious.

What will be the NFL's spin? I mean they obviously cannot penalize every team nor can they give back our draft picks. And you know that everyone and their dog will be measuring football air pressure this winter cause the NFL made such a huge stink out of it. Then everyone will see the pressure drop to below legal limits, cause you can't stop mother nature.

The NFL is really going to need to think up an answer for this I think... but I can't imagine what excuse they could give that would satisfy anyone. I suppose they could claim that the conditions elsewhere were not "exactly" the same as in the AFCCG game and sort of get out of it with that BS reasoning.

I think the NFL screwed up big time by not waiting to see how footballs react to the cold this coming winter before giving out punishments. They think they're having it rough right now with Judge Berman coming down on them hard? Imagine what it will be like this winter during games when fans, networks (excluding ESPN and NFL Network of course), and even school kids start measuring footballs? I don't think they'll be able to get away with saying the school kids screwed up the measuring.

What can they possibly say to save face when (not if) this happens?

You'll never find out. No one will.

We can't jump to conclusions!

We really need HARD evidence to show that 2+2=4.

First we will get two things. Then we'll get two more things. Then we will look and see if we indeed have 4 things altogether. We will do this all over the nation just to solve this mystery.

We will keep an open mind though.

TommyD4207 said:

You'll never find out. No one will.

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Of course not.

How would we ever find out? The NFL will control the data collection, the results, and how they spin it. I'm not expecting any big stories about deflated air pressure in cold weather games. I think if anything, we'll actually see quite the opposite.

They'll simply release the info from warm weather cities with much less variation.

Expecting a "fair" study is similar to people who expected an "independent investigation."

Palm Beach Pats Fan said:

We can't jump to conclusions!

We really need HARD evidence to show that 2+2=4.

First we will get two things. Then we'll get two more things. Then we will look and see if we indeed have 4 things. We will do this all over the nation just to solve this mystery.

We will keep an open mind though.

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I guarantee you that every single ball will magically fall between 12.5 and 13.5 all season long. No deviation. No matter which gauge is used.

In other words, the NFL will lie. How do I know this? The NFL lies all the time.

(I added the wink)

This is what happens this f'ing winter:

What I actually meant is what happens when fans, networks and school kids are clamoring about the drop in PSI? Everyone's gonna be measuring and if you get a thousand people saying their pressure dropped by so much and the NFL says their footballs didn't drop at all, that just makes the NFL look even more shady and corrupt.

They'll spend all September and October telling us that their measurements show no loss in pressure, then will just happen to go silent sometime in November.

Or they'll just lie and make up numbers.

Please...anything but this again.

You can bet media people will be inflating footballs to 12.5>13.0 at room temp and they will be checking them as the game goes along .... NFL can bury it's head but you know many will be doing this from Buffalo and Green Bay and Minnesota and Denver ... Seattle and of course here in New England. Any game resembling the rain and temperatures of the Indy game will be the biggest coup.

Im posting this again because it represents how i feel. Winter is coming in New England.

GrogansArmy said:

What I actually meant is what happens when fans, networks and school kids are clamoring about the drop in PSI? Everyone's gonna be measuring and if you get a thousand people saying their pressure dropped by so much and the NFL says their footballs didn't drop at all, that just makes the NFL look even more shady and corrupt.

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It's not going to happen. We'll never hear about a single measurement that isn't in the acceptable range.

TommyD4207 said:

It's not going to happen. We'll never hear about a single measurement that isn't in the acceptable range.

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I think it will happen. ESPN and NFL Network may not show anything, but there are other networks that would, such as CBS I would imagine. Think CBS and Kraft are still on good terms last I heard.

GrogansArmy said:

I think it will happen. ESPN and NFL Network may not show anything, but there are other networks that would, such as CBS I would imagine. Think CBS and Kraft are still on good terms last I heard.

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CBS is also getting the Thursday night package this year.

Dream on.

Kraft starting on the Oct 29 night game and the other 3 reg season home games plus home playoff games, should prepare a game ball, to 12.5 psi, show the temp in the room the ball was inflated in.
show the process in the stadium. Bring the ball thermometer and pressure gauge outside to the field, with a camera continuing to document the process, and displaying the procession to the big screen in the stadium.

Place the ball on a pedestal with the measuring equipment, so everyone will know that the same eq was used for the entire time. Display the temp at halftime on the reference thermometer, show the anticipated psi as per the IGL, then measure the psi using the reference gauge, displaying the measurement on the big screen in the stadium. Compare measurement to the IGL.

Perhaps return the ball inside at the end on the game again on the big screen show the temp in the room, take the psi measurement and display on the big screen as the fans are leaving, announce all measurements on the PA system,

Have Stacy James issue a press release after each game.

they will get to the bottom of this by carefully scrutinizing the data from
-the Super dome
-the Georgia dome
-Ford Field
-Lucas Oil Stadium

and from brutal outdoor venues like
-dolphins /sun life stadium
-Raymond James stadium
-Qualcom stadium (San Diego)

they will figure this out!

An intrepid news station needs to hire Jim McNally and send him to the stadium with a football and a gauge to record and report on pressure for every New England home game. I have a feeling that guy could provide some serious color commentary.

GrogansArmy said:

I think it will happen. ESPN and NFL Network may not show anything, but there are other networks that would, such as CBS I would imagine. Think CBS and Kraft are still on good terms last I heard.

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I understand your point, but I think that those measurements are always going to have to come via the NFL. In other words, CBS isn't going to be able to measure the footballs, so they'll be forced to report the NFL's "findings."

Goodell and the NFL aren't going to be able to turn back now. They'll be doubling down like madmen on this specific issue.

As another poster mentioned, they'll likely base the majority of their "study" during the months of August (preseason), and September, with a tendency to look towards the warmer weather cities in October. Surely they will jump ALL OVER a 50 degree game in New York which may happen in November. There will be plenty of opportunities for them to control things.

I know this won't be news to anybody here but figure I'll share my recent encounter with the IGL and a football.

-Pulled a football out of my garage where it had to be 80+ degrees . at this point ball was much to flat to throw.

- placed ball in car parked on street where it was probably cooking at 105 (live in california) for 45-1hr

-got to field and pulled ball out of car to pump up. Ta daaaa. Ball was inflated nearly all the way.

Didn't do this on purpose and wasn't thinking about it at all so got a good laugh once I saw how much it inflated.