Yet more crooked Defamegate science

ctpatsfan77 · Aug 20, 2015

http://www.robertblecker.com/deflategate-the-smoking-gun/

Notice how easy it is to confuse the two.

Also notice how the two are measured in exactly the same way.

Angelpats · Aug 20, 2015

That's so funny. There are standards to scientific measurements. What you have here is the nfl standard. I'm not sure this would pass for a 5th grade science lab.

raduray · Aug 20, 2015

ctpatsfan77 said:
http://www.robertblecker.com/deflategate-the-smoking-gun/

Notice how easy it is to confuse the two.

Also notice how the two are measured in exactly the same way.

Those two measurements are a great example of Exponent's scientific competency.

chasa · Aug 20, 2015

I hope everyone reads the article and realizes that the person who wrote it is explaining how ****ed up exponent is, and not that they think this proves the patriots did it.

MagicMarker · Aug 20, 2015

Or Exponent's twisting of data to reach the conclusion they wanted.

Angelpats · Aug 20, 2015

There is another photo in the link where they show how crooked the needles are. In this photo they just rotated the curve towards the camera so don't see how obvious it is.

Tony Cahncuhd · Aug 20, 2015

Cool! My man parts, while not as crooked, are way longer measured the Exponent Figure 3a way.

NashuaPats · Aug 20, 2015

These types of tricks were used throughout the report.

The timing of when the Colts balls were measured. They intentionally did not show that the Colts balls would fall in line when measured later during halftime, which would be more in line with statements from the refs.

When building their transient curve, they used the lowest of the temperature range which Steve McIntyre has written about.

They misrepresented three graphs using the master gauge while representing them as the logo gauge. Again this was caught by McIntyre.

They pointed out that the pregame preparation of the footballs was irrelevant to the starting psi level, but ignored the fact they it would help determine which gauge was used.

Their water test with a spray bottle was a joke that in no way represented the conditions of the field. They found that it could only affect the ball 0.1 to 0.2 psi, while Headsmart Labs already proved that it could affect the balls up to 0.7 psi.

They did not account for the fact the Patriots dominated time of possession at the end of the half when it was raining the hardest.

Wells uses the same kind of deception throughout his report as well. He lists incriminating texts 20-25 throughout the report while only listing texts that put those into context as well as contradicting texts only one time in the middle of the report. He consistently makes every assumption against the Pats and chooses which statements to believe and which not to believe always in that same direction.

It should be obvious to any thinking person who read the report that this was not an honest collection and interpretation of facts.

nabwong · Aug 20, 2015

Stevie Wonder working for Exponent now? Damn, that dude is everywhere.

woolster22 · Aug 20, 2015

************. Brady should go after everyone for one billion dollars. No, I did not mistakenly press "B" instead of "M." Every corrupt, jealous, needle **** imbecile scumbag bag involved with this abortion of an investigation needs to be fired, and publicly ridiculed for 7 months on espn, CNN, ABC, cbs, fox...

I was feeling pretty good after the news yesterday, but God damn it, my head just exploded again.

roguepatriot · Aug 20, 2015

I get this feeling years from now, once all the details come out, that this case will be taught in law colleges as how a large corrupt organization can propagandize a case and its actions are seen to be fair to the general media until a judge cab can help expose them.

ChoWZa · Aug 20, 2015

roguepatriot said:
I get this feeling years from now, once all the details come out, that this case will be taught in law colleges as how a large corrupt organization can propagandize a case and its actions are seen to be fair to the general media until a judge cab can help expose them.

I think the root of the problem is you have a front office with an agenda. I've said it's like having another franchise. It's certainly not an independent office serving the best interest of the game. The league office is trying to garner public support and boost it's image, going after a hated franchise/player is a great way to do that. The league office is compromised, the CBA itself in my opinion is not the problem. The language in the CBA actually makes sense under the assumption the league office would be a neutral fair ambassador of the sport like it has been in the past, but once it goes skynet on the rest of the league the language in the CBA starts to feel pretty weak.

YOUGOTMOSSED · Aug 20, 2015

ChoWZa said:
I think the root of the problem is you have a front office with an agenda. I've said it's like having another franchise. It's certainly not an independent office serving the best interest of the game. The league office is trying to garner public support and boost it's image, going after a hated franchise/player is a great way to do that. The league office is compromised, the CBA itself in my opinion is not the problem. The language in the CBA actually makes sense under the assumption the league office would be a neutral fair ambassador of the sport like it has been in the past, but once it goes skynet on the rest of the league the language in the CBA starts to feel pretty weak.

If that was the assumption, the representatives for the players really did them a disservice. Goodell was the commissioner at the time so they should have known better. Even if we had that ideal "neutral, fair ambassador" in office at the time, he could have been run over by a bus the day after the CBA was ratified and replaced by someone like Goodell.

The Brandon Five · Aug 20, 2015

ctpatsfan77 said:
http://www.robertblecker.com/deflategate-the-smoking-gun/

Notice how easy it is to confuse the two.

Also notice how the two are measured in exactly the same way.

Science!

ChoWZa · Aug 21, 2015

YOUGOTMOSSED said:
If that was the assumption, the representatives for the players really did them a disservice. Goodell was the commissioner at the time so they should have known better. Even if we had that ideal "neutral, fair ambassador" in office at the time, he could have been run over by a bus the day after the CBA was ratified and replaced by someone like Goodell.

I agree the CBA needs to be written with commissioner abuse in mind next time, with no 'Patriot Act'-esque language, but he can still do the same stuff he's doing today and force people to court to get his punishments vacated. I just don't see what is preventing him from doing what the CBA explicitly says he cannot do, because he's doing this already and losing in court repeatedly. It's all about his PR battle, not getting these punishments to stick. The NFL just needs a new commissioner and the league office needs a complete overhaul, my thoughts.

The Brandon Five · Aug 21, 2015

From that blog post in the OP:

How could these sophisticated scientific/engineering PhD statisticians with all their complex simulations and graphs somehow mis-align two simple rulers? Accident — or con job?

Once you credit the referee’s memory here, and reject one other pseudo-scientific piece of twisted logic, science can fully explain the entire pressure drop.

Leaked mis-information, implausible assumptions and daring distortions obscure the truth.

Deflategate is a sham — an NFL cooked-up fraud. So who cheated: The quarterback or the League?

Oh, and:

Robert Blecker is a professor at New York Law School, a nationally known expert on the death penalty, and the subject of the documentary Robert Blecker Wants Me Dead. He formerly prosecuted corruption in New York's criminal justice system as a Special Assistant Attorney General and has been the sole keynote speaker supporting the death penalty at several major national and international conferences. A post-graduate Harvard fellow in Law and Humanities, Blecker wrote the stage play Vote NO! which premiered at the Kennedy Center. Profiled by The New York Times and The Washington Post, the subject of a USA Today cover story, and recently featured on ABC's Nightline, Blecker frequently comments for national media. He lives in New York.

YOUGOTMOSSED · Aug 21, 2015

ctpatsfan77 said:
http://www.robertblecker.com/deflategate-the-smoking-gun/

Notice how easy it is to confuse the two.

Also notice how the two are measured in exactly the same way.

Oh wow! This guy was one of my professors in law school!

Koma · Aug 21, 2015

Mark Greenway also addressed the differences between the gauges as tangent to a larger point he was making about an error in the way Exponent conducted their experiments.

He didn't catch that Exponent didn't measure the gauges from the same point on the ruler, but he re-created how much the non-logo gauge was bent. Here's the picture Exponent used of the two gauges side by side:

Here's how bent the non-logo gauge is:

Is it really believable that Anderson could get the two gauges confused over the course of checking 24 footballs? I think you'd remember using one where the needle was relatively straight vs. one with a 70 degree angle in the needle.

MagicMarker · Aug 22, 2015

Just to show the Patriots are stopping on this.....The WellsReportContext.com site continues to be updated and this article is posted there.

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