CORRECTION: brady willing to accept 1 game for failure to cooperate is UNTRUE

Wilfork#75 said:

Albert Breer ‏@AlbertBreer now5 seconds ago
Per source, no material terms were offered during Tuesday's settlement talks on Brady. Parties still stuck on facts (re: guilt) of the case.

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Another report that conflicts the report that Brady offered a game that will be ignored. ****head breer wouldn't have phrased it that way if Brady offered a game.

raduray said:

Listening to Zolak. He's treating Schefter's report as credible. Explains his own earlier report that Brady was pissed because he was willing to make this sacrifice but NFL unbending on his accepting Wells report.
Ugh.

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d%#*!@t

raduray said:

Listening to Zolak. He's treating Schefter's report as credible. Explains his own earlier report that Brady was pissed because he was willing to make this sacrifice but NFL unbending on his accepting Wells report.
Ugh.

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Zolak thinks that Brady would look guilty if he accepts a one game suspension, particularly on top of team penalties.

IF Brady accepts one game despite not having been a party to doing anything he sets a precedent just like Bob "Vichy" Kraft with his pathetic surrender.

It signals the myriad enemies of the Pats franchise that they can use their league influence and power to make **** up to derail the Patriots juggernaught.

Not a good idea at all.

What prevents something ELSE this or next season from coming out of the blue?

Schefter is most likely correct in his report.

The source has been lying the entire time, they are using Schfter and other as part of their PR war. They are doing spin because the facts don't support their position.

Berman may have tipped his hand and the NFL is positioning themselves in the post ruling PR war against Brady.

KontradictioN said:

Based on what we know, failing to cooperate is failing to hand over the cell phone... and even then there are conflicting reports about that. And looking at this logically is not being a homer. I see no reason for Brady to even accept one game if he's done nothing wrong and the evidence, or lack thereof, backs that up. I guess we'll just have to wait and see if Schefter's report is true.

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equating an admission to not cooperating to an admission that you deflated footballs illegally is what's not logical........hell, it doesn't even make sense

I'd rather have it "linger on" for two years and ultimately have a longer suspension than have Brady willingly accept even a one minute suspension.

A fine? Eh...ok. As long as Brady demands that the funds be used to buy fifth grade science textbooks for everyone in the league office.

There continue to be no reports of the NFL offering anything by way of concession. Still want Brady to accept Wells findings and 4 game suspension.

Still looks like no settlement is in the offing although sometimes things break loose at the very last minute. That would suggest at least another two weeks of this nonsense before September 4th "deadline."

Zeus said:

There continue to be no reports of the NFL offering anything by way of concession. Still want Brady to accept Wells findings and 4 game suspension.

Still looks like no settlement is in the offing although sometimes things break loose at the very last minute. That would suggest at least another two weeks of this nonsense before September 4th "deadline."

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I think the NFL would take a 1-game suspension at this point if it included acceptance of the Wells Report. That acceptance is critical for them as it validates the process.

I don't see how the NFLPA (not Brady) would accept a suspension for failing to cooperate given that previous precedent is a $50K fine. That would create an incredibly damaging precedent.

VrabelJr said:

I hate a settlement at all strictly because it leads to no reform in the NFL, specifically in regard to the Commissioner's ability to abuse power easily. The NFL needs reform.

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I think there's going to be a bunch of owners who will be pretty annoyed by how this whole thing played out.........once the emotion of wanting a guy or a team to be punished has passed, every single one of them is going to see this thing as a total ass-f*cking when it comes to PR

Shame on all of you for even thinking about buying into a report based on "league sources"

raduray said:

I don't see how the NFLPA (not Brady) would accept a suspension for failing to cooperate given that previous precedent is a $50K fine. That would create an incredibly damaging precedent.

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again, off-field versus on-field issues are separate........not saying I agree with it, but it is a valid point

JMC00 said:

Shame on all of you for even thinking about buying into a report based on "league sources"

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which is why I am saying 'if true'

you can start breathing again

scott99 said:

Any admission of guilt is worse than anything Brady can do. I rather he admits guilt and takes the 4 games, or fights this to the bitter end. There should be no in between when it comes to this fight. Berman already got the NFL to admit there is no proof, keep the fight going.

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I see your point. All or nothing. It's certainly a noble stance. My point is that this whole process is screwed up to begin with, that it is devoid of justice. There are other ways to create your own justice that doesn't revolve around relying on hyenas to do the right thing at the carcass

YOUGOTMOSSED said:

"I wanted you to see what real courage is, instead of getting the idea that courage is a man with a gun in his hand. It's when you know you're licked before you begin but you begin anyway and you see it through no matter what. You rarely win, but sometimes you do."
-To Kill a Mockingbird

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I hope Brady just comes out and says, "enough is enough. I'm innocent. The league is acting in bad faith. My offer is nothing. No admission. No suspension. No fine. Give the case to the judge and let the chips fall where they may."

raduray said:

I don't see how the NFLPA (not Brady) would accept a suspension for failing to cooperate given that previous precedent is a $50K fine. That would create an incredibly damaging precedent.

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Unless, of course, the settlement is written to specifically preclude the NFL from using any concessions therein as a precedent in future cases.

Of course they would. The length of the suspension has never been all that important to the league. Accepting the Wells Report is an admission of guilt and would allow the NFL to say they did the right thing all along. It's also a pipe dream to think that Brady would ever agree to this.

IllegalContact said:

which is why I am saying 'if true'

you can start breathing again

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"if true" is a form of thinking of buying into it.

Every Pats fan that has followed this thing closely should assume something from "league sources" is 100% false.

IllegalContact said:

equating an admission to not cooperating to an admission that you deflated footballs illegally is what's not logical........hell, it doesn't even make sense

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And yet that's what will widely be believed, reported, and discussed at length his HOF induction. Once again: why be willing to accept a suspension when:

1. There is no evidence you did anything wrong.

2. You cooperated with the investigation.

3. There is precedent of a fine if the NFL wants to go with the "you didn't hand over the phone" angle?

Those three questions are why I can't buy the report as being true.