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In another thread about Brian Hoyer, Hoyer mentions that he knows nothing about PSI and is only concerned with the feel of the ball. I think this is evidence that Brady wasn't doing anything since Hoyer would likely be aware of it. It's curious that Wells did not interview him or any other former Pats QBs. It made me begin to think about what else is not in the report that would support Brady and the team's innocence. What's not in the report is probably as telling to the dishonesty of the investigation as what is in it.

I'm listing a few items below, but I'd like for others to brainstorm and list things in this thread as well. It could be very interesting.

They don't talk to other refs to find out about McNally's behavior
They don't talk to other refs to see if they noticed the balls were soft in previous games.
This came about because it's "widely known around the league" that the Pats play with deflated footballs. Yet there is nothing in the report about anyone else making such an accusation.
There's practically nothing from McNally's 7+ hour interrogation in the report nor Jastremski's interrogation.
What about Brady's 5 hour interrogation?
What about the other Patriots employees?
How about questioning the other Tom that was mentioned in the texts?
Obviously no one talked to former QBs from the team.
Neither Wells nor Exponent obtained the Colts or Pats gauges or analyzed their pregame process to help in determining which gauge was used.
 
Good point. Linking this to Florio's post today about a "lose-lose", this is exactly the kind of information that would be released.
 
On the subject of McNally, if he was guilty of anything, then would he have agreed to be questioned by NFL Security right after the game for hours by himself with no counsel present? Wouldn't most people who felt they might be "found out" request a lawyer before being questioned?
 
Reports were that they did talk to Patriots QB backups for the past etc... You know why non of this was not put in the report, none of them said anything happened.
 
The thing about all of this is that admitting you let air out of footballs would not put you jail or parole or any illegal bind. If they did admit it there is a chance that they would even still have their jobs. It is not a big deal. So for them all to submit to interrogations and invasions of privacy and still say they did not do anything should really confirm to anyone that nothing happened. It just got cold and psi dropped naturally. It is the league and the media that is equating psi to double homicide. It is understandable for someone to lie about killing someone but no one would go this far to lie about stealing a cookie.
 
All good questions. The obvious is, though, is that Wells was told to find evidence of deflation, he was not told to conduct an 'independent investigation' and let the evidence speak for itself.

Listen to the Dolphins guys re: the bullying thing. It's the same exact story, Wells had conclusion to reach and he included 'facts' that supported the conclusion, ignored the others that didn't. That attorney-client privilege thingy they held on to, that's why it was there.

If this ever gets to an independent arbiter and he requests all documents and conversations through email/text god help the NFL. If Brady ever files a defamation suit and forces discovery on all of Wells info and Pash/Goodell/Kensil/Gardi/Blandino's phones god help the NFL. Frame job from the moment they realized IGL could explain away the entire media firestorm they created.
 
I think it's interesting that the likes of TMZ hasn't broken a story involving the two ballboys and their "cheating" for the Patriots.

There's a good reason for that.
 
Is there anyway that the NFLPA can have the full transcipts from the Wells Report released ?
 
The thing about all of this is that admitting you let air out of footballs would not put you jail or parole or any illegal bind. If they did admit it there is a chance that they would even still have their jobs. It is not a big deal. So for them all to submit to interrogations and invasions of privacy and still say they did not do anything should really confirm to anyone that nothing happened. It just got cold and psi dropped naturally. It is the league and the media that is equating psi to double homicide. It is understandable for someone to lie about killing someone but no one would go this far to lie about stealing a cookie.

Multiple interviews and 7 hour interrogations should have produced something if they were guilty. Like you said, it's not a crime. These guys aren't that sophisticated nor are they hardcore criminals. If they were guilty, they would have made mistakes or even cracked.
 
On the subject of McNally, if he was guilty of anything, then would he have agreed to be questioned by NFL Security right after the game for hours by himself with no counsel present? Wouldn't most people who felt they might be "found out" request a lawyer before being questioned?

Wow. If I am ever tried for a crime, I will pray that you are not on the jury.
 
Because, like most sane people, I will lawyer up immediately whether or not I am guilty. I can do without anyone on the jury inferring guilt from that.
There isn't a jury here, man. Just the point that the guy had nothing to hide.
 
There isn't a jury here, man. Just the point that the guy had nothing to hide.

OK, I see your point. Though McNally doesn't necessarily strike me as the kind of guy who would lawyer up in this type of situation even if he thought he had been caught red-handed.
 
Multiple interviews and 7 hour interrogations should have produced something if they were guilty. Like you said, it's not a crime. These guys aren't that sophisticated nor are they hardcore criminals. If they were guilty, they would have made mistakes or even cracked.

That's the thing. Perjury is a crime. Would Brady risk years in prison for lying about something that would result in no prison time at all? On first take S. Smith now says Brady is innocent but is covering up for someone. That would be perjury too. Brady would risks years in prison for covering up for someone involved in a scheme that would result in no jail time as well? How can people come up with this stuff. Anyone would confess or rat someone out if the outcome resulted in no legal penalty. Even a 4 game suspension is preferable to 5 years in jail.
 
OK, I see your point. Though McNally doesn't necessarily strike me as the kind of guy who would lawyer up in this type of situation even if he thought he had been caught red-handed.
Perhaps. Maybe not even a lawyer. Just to notify someone in the Pats front office about what was going on for some help. Instead, he was questioned all by himself for hours. The guy got paid like $11/hr part time to do his job. What is keeping him from telling all the salacious things some believe he's done? Another pair of sneakers? An autograph?
 
This is a very pertinent thread.

As most of us are completely tired and exhausted over this subject, I've been noticing a small "wind change" inside the Pats fan Base (here and in other places) in the opinions regarding what might or might not have happened with the footballs, and that Goodell and his minions are not in a mission against the Patriots, they are just incompetents, and a series of events and misfortunes (the text messages) lead them to act that way, thinking that the Patriots were running a scheme again. And that increased yesterday after Kessler considering the possibility of the dorito dink sticking a needle in the ball.

NO, JUST NO !

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FORGET IT. This was a setup, a sting, a hack job, a diabolic plan, WHATEVAH.

People and the books should not forget this event, after it's all said and done, fortunately unmasking those bastards SOBs, this should always be remembered as the most ridiculous and tragic attempt to sabotage a winning team and tarnish a HOF QB. I still can't see crystal clear the reasons (because there are several valid possibilities), but there are, for sure there are.

This should also, 20 years from now, tell a nice story about union members fighting for their rights against a diva dictator trying to install an insane regiment, there should be a ESPN 30 for 30 telling about the fraud called Roger Goodell just like that 30 for 30 about John Spano and the purchase of the New York Islanders . Unfortunately, Brady will have to fight this alone, no one is standing up for him, except, and I can't believe, Antonio Cromartie and Bernard Pollard. And although I think some QB's should have stepped up in this issue, I can't blame all the other players because due to Kraft being a spineless coward twice, 90% of the average joe think the Patriots are a cheating organization and they don't even wanna read the whole story.

It's game day and we are still talking about this ****. This is the most ridiculous episode in the history of sports. In the beginning I though Goodell hired Wells, and the message about what he wanted for the job was "implied between the lines", I believed they were talking formally, like this was a serious thing but with Wells knowing what Goodell wanted and Goodell knowing Wells knew. Now, I think it was really direct, I think it was dirty like "Do you want 5 million dollars officially plus bonus? We need another job like that you did in Miami, you need to go there and bring me Belichick's head in a plate, you need to incriminate the Patriots beyond reasonable doubt to the general public, plant evidence if you need, and don't worry about the questions, I'll back you up, just give me something".

It can be a little fantasy but man, 4 games for the QB, 2 high draft picks? You've got to be kidding. Godell shot himself in the foot, his greedy is going to backfire on him, if he had given Brady 1 game and a 3rd round pick only, this whole episode would probably be on the past right now.
 
I hope Kraft and coach Belichick hire someone to run psi levels during games and have the results displayed publicly. When the results coincides with the IGL there can no longer be any denial about what happened and all the haters will have a lot of crow to eat. The league would also have to admit they were wrong. It would be like freeing an innocent person after having served ten years that they found new DNA evidence that exonerated him.
 
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