Official Brady vs. NFL Federal Court 8/12 Thread (LIVE UPDATES)

QuantumMechanic · Aug 12, 2015

YOUGOTMOSSED said:
How did he get his cell phone into federal court?

Stephen BrownVerified account‏@PPVSRB
Glad to see so many people interested in the goings-on in SDNY. I was able to tweet that through a closed-circuit feed in the press room.

RhodyPatriot · Aug 12, 2015

Very smart move by Kessler, telling the judge Brady could have handled his meeting with Wells better, i.e the phone on advice from Don Yee. Opens the door for a "fine" for non-cooperation.
Also tells the judge Tom isn't perfect. I like it!!!!

Soul_Survivor88 · Aug 12, 2015

Kevin Duffy ‏@KevinRDuffy 3m3 minutes ago
This was the most important exchange to the point made in my previous tweet.

PatsGuy · Aug 12, 2015

YOUGOTMOSSED said:
How did he get his cell phone into federal court?

Good question as courts have metal detectors

upstater1 · Aug 12, 2015

It can still go both ways if they don't settle. If the judge is somehow convinced that deflation occurred, he may just punt it and say, that's the NFL's CBA discretion.

In fact, the only thing that might be holding Berman back from giving the NFL carte blanche is the extreme harshness of the punishment. He may feel that's where he has to step in.

If it was a smaller punishment, he might have just kicked them out of the court room.

JJC · Aug 12, 2015

YOUGOTMOSSED said:
How did he get his cell phone into federal court?

Claims he was tweeting from the press room, where he was observing the proceedings over closed circuit TV.

Kontradiction · Aug 12, 2015

SVN · Aug 12, 2015

Will there be a transcript of the hearing ?

upstater1 · Aug 12, 2015

Chiuba E. Obele said:
Kevin Duffy ‏@KevinRDuffy 3m3 minutes ago
This was the most important exchange to the point made in my previous tweet.

I have been saying this all along.

They haven't proven a thing abut the Colts game.

Hoodie · Aug 12, 2015

NECN says Brady was stoic throughout even when the courtroom was laughing. He looked straight ahead or down at the desk. Game face?

FourierSeries · Aug 12, 2015

I hope Goodell is swayed to change his plans for opening night and shows up in Foxboro so Brady can bathe in his blood after he annihilates the Steelers on national TV.

Fencer · Aug 12, 2015

DaBruinz said:
What are you going on about?? What does Ray Lewis have to do with this? I'm telling you what Kessler basically said in court..

The analogy is taking a small penalty for obstructing investigation of what an associate of one's may or may not have done, and having that not be a lingering stain on one's reputation.

I thought that would be evident to readers of the thread, but I forgot that you also would be participating here. My bad!

dales804 · Aug 12, 2015

JMC00 said:
So wait that guy that was tweeting was making it all up?

He's a verified court reporter. He says he tweeted it by this:

Stephen Brown ‏@PPVSRB 17m17 minutes ago New York, USA
Glad to see so many people interested in the goings-on in SDNY. I was able to tweet that through a closed-circuit feed in the press room.

QuantumMechanic · Aug 12, 2015

DaBruinz said:
You don't know who Garafolo was referring to. Stephen Brown is a court reporter. That's pretty official.

Brown is an employee of the New York Daily News. He is a reporter (in the journalistic sense, not the legal one) who apparently covers the Manhattan courts for the NYDN.

SVN · Aug 12, 2015

Stephanie Stradley ‏@StephStradley 8m8 minutes ago
.@beanie402 @uhatremblay @PPVSRB Deflation can happen for natural reasons--no big deal. Judge signaled he didn't need to be sold by Kessler

Soul_Survivor88 · Aug 12, 2015

Mike Loyko ‏@NEPD_Loyko 22s22 seconds ago
.@AdamSchefter and Sall said "Berman told the NFL that they better come to grips that a settlement in favor of the NFLPA is very possible"

turkeyneck · Aug 12, 2015

smurfalarm said:
This is a court case, not Pardon the Interruption. Kessler's job is to get Brady the best possible settlement or decision that is in his capability as a legal representative, not to salvage the reputation of the Patriots by convincing some judge that they aren't cheaters. Whatever line of answers is most likely to benefit Brady is the correct line of answers. Kessler is a high profile lawyer who probably came to the conclusion that directly contradicting the premise of the question and arguing with the judge over whether or not McNally deflated balls would not serve the best interests of his client in this case.

I understand that and I'll even concede that Berman might have telegraphed his (mis)understanding of the inflation issue in chambers beforehand; maybe, even, Kessler means to touch on that in this followup submittal. But I'd have brought it up anyway. Maybe I'm just more combative than a NY lawyer.

ctpatsfan77 · Aug 12, 2015

upstater1 said:
It can still go both ways if they don't settle. If the judge is somehow convinced that deflation occurred, he may just punt it and say, that's the NFL's CBA discretion.

Except the question isn't simply a matter of "Were the balls deflated?"

The question is, "Were the balls deflated, and, if so, did Brady have an active hand in causing that to happen?"

Using the first question would be like suspending Matt Ryan because the Falcons pumped in fake noise.

Soul_Survivor88 · Aug 12, 2015

SVN said:
Stephanie Stradley ‏@StephStradley 8m8 minutes ago
.@beanie402 @uhatremblay @PPVSRB Deflation can happen for natural reasons--no big deal. Judge signaled he didn't need to be sold by Kessler

And how would she know that?

patsinthesnow · Aug 12, 2015

In the end when Tom is freed and Goodell is destroyed, it will still be madness the NFL will get away with the theft of a 1st round pick. Whatever I guess.

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