Official Brady vs. NFL Federal Court 8/12 Thread (LIVE UPDATES)

JackBauer · Aug 12, 2015

Concussion Protocol said:
Kessler just threw an interception on 2nd and goal from the 1. WTF?

Think we're being a little premature.

XLIX · Aug 12, 2015

The Gr8est said:
Are those actually quotes from Berman?

No

SHOWTIME15 · Aug 12, 2015

R-E-L-A-X

-Aaron Rodgers

voluntarysaftey · Aug 12, 2015

Unfortunately Kessler has to prove 'Brady had no knowledge' and he doesn't have to argue 'nothing wrong was done' -- that was for Kraft to argue and he laid down

borg · Aug 12, 2015

nowayback said:
Not liking Kesslers answers, I assume he is going somewhere with it. Why say the balls were deflated cause of science ? Unless that would poison settlement talks

We are reading 1 sentence rehashes every 3 minutes. Pretty sure more is being said with the other 2 minutes 50 seconds.

Concussion Protocol · Aug 12, 2015

JackBauer said:
Think we're being a little premature.

You're right, he knows what he's doing. Just didn't expect that.

sb1 · Aug 12, 2015

Stephen Brown ‏@PPVSRB 1m1 minute ago New York, USA

Kessler: "Even the NFL...does not try to contend any player can be disciplined for being aware of someone else’s conduct."

turkeyneck · Aug 12, 2015

TommyBrady12 said:
he is saying bathroom deflation by mcnally acting alone is a possibility

Throwing the Dorito Dinks to the wolves?

FourierSeries · Aug 12, 2015

turkeyneck said:
Oh, come on, Kessler. That is seriously weak.

He was answering the question "why would someone do it without Brady's consent." That's all. he didn't say anyone actually did any tampering.

No need to overreact.

Soul_Survivor88 · Aug 12, 2015

karguy85 said:
Stephen Brown ‏@PPVSRB 11s11 seconds ago Massapequa Park, NY
Kessler: After all this money, all this investigation, he couldn’t get beyond…at least he was generally aware something may have happened."

^^ This is why I hate lawyers

dales804 · Aug 12, 2015

Stephen Brown ‏@PPVSRB 24s25 seconds ago New York, USA
Berman: Why did Mr. Brady not cooperate with the Wells investigation, with respect to providing texts?

Let's see what Kessler says...

Todd Bradley · Aug 12, 2015

This is so moronic....

Air leaks out of everything. Especially in the cold.

If you fill a ball up to the lowest possible allowed PSI (12.5) in a hot room, and then bring them outside where it's freezing cold and rainy, they're clearly going to leak.

Yet, we're in a federal court house.......seriously, I hope history brands this as the most moronic "scandal" of all-time. Goodell should have to serve time in jail for seriously wasting everyone's time and burning their brain cells. Unbelievable.

sb1 · Aug 12, 2015

Berman asking Kessler about Brady not wanting to turn over texts.

ctpatsfan77 · Aug 12, 2015

voluntarysaftey said:
Unfortunately Kessler has to prove 'Brady had no knowledge' and he doesn't have to argue 'nothing wrong was done' -- that was for Kraft to argue and he laid down

This isn't a criminal proceeding. Kessler doesn't have to prove Brady had no knowledge. He simply has to show that there is no basis for this punishment, by whatever means.

carpetbagger1 · Aug 12, 2015

turkeyneck said:
Oh, come on, Kessler. That is seriously weak.

We have no idea what was said by the Judge behind closed doors. Kessler likely got an indication of what the Judge thinks Brady's weaknesses are, and Kessler will specifically tailor his arguments to address them. Sadly, yet another opportunity for unsubstantiated speculation.

Bottom line, Kessler's presentation will be based on numerous bases we will never know about.

reflexblue · Aug 12, 2015

BradyFTW! said:
I would guess that he's leading to "even if you accept that the deflation happened as the NFL assumes, you still have little basis to assume that Brady was in on it". Ties back into Berman's argument that you have to show that Brady intended to be part of a conspiracy before you can punish him for it.

The fan in me wants him to lead with "there's no good evidence that deflation occurred in the first place", but there's a reason why Kessler gets paid a ton to do this and I'm just some guy on the internet.

Its possible kessler picked up on bermans line of questioning and is playing to that with his argument?

TinhWoodhead · Aug 12, 2015

TommyBrady12 said:
i can see smoke coming from goodell right about now....

might be Irsay sitting behind him

turkeyneck · Aug 12, 2015

FourierSeries said:
He was answering the question "why would someone do it without Brady's consent." That's all. he didn't say anyone actually did any tampering.

No need to overreact.

I wouldn't accept the premise of the question. I would point out that the evidence shows that there was no "it" that was done.

MitchKumstein · Aug 12, 2015

FourierSeries said:
He was answering the question "why would someone do it without Brady's consent." That's all. he didn't say anyone actually did any tampering.

No need to overreact.

That's what I was thinking. He answered a hypothetical question with a hypothetical answer

BradyFTW! · Aug 12, 2015

reflexblue said:
Its possible kessler picked up on bermans line of questioning and is playing to that with his argument?

That would be some quick thinking if so. I didn't make the connection until a full few minutes later. Again, why Kessler is who he is and why I'm some guy on Patsfans.

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