Poll: Would you prefer Brady's punishment overturned or sent to a neutral arbitrator?

Ice_Ice_Brady · Aug 11, 2015

If it were overturned, it would be a win for Brady, but it wouldn't necessarily clear him since he would have gotten off on a "technicality." Still, most people don't really follow this stuff closely and would just see that he won and the NFL lost in trying to convict him. In addition, this issue wouldn't really be over, since the NFL would likely appeal, meaning the cloud would continue to hang over our heads.

Sending it to a neutral arbitrator would drag this out further and potentially lead to missing games later in the season, but Brady would get a chance to clear his name to the small percentage of people who really care about justice and don't froth at the mouth thinking about the Patriots. For many of us, though, a neutral arbitrator exonerating Brady or drastically reducing his penalty would likely be more satisfying because the Federal Court can "get him off the hook" but can't actually proclaim his innocence.

New England Pride · Aug 11, 2015

Whatever gets him on the field is fine for me. It's not the most popular opinion on this site but I really don't care what people think about Brady. I know he's the Goat and that's it.

PATS16N0 · Aug 11, 2015

Overturned since that would happen sooner.

The evidence is already there that Brady didn't do anything. I give no ****s what some hick in Denver or Indiana think, nor do I give a **** about the delusional conspiracy-ramblings that come from Jersey.

Ring 6 · Aug 11, 2015

If it goes to a neutral arbitrator there is no way he misses a game ever.
I'm not sure what you think 'overturned' means.
The court case is about the arbitration award. The court can't rule on the initial punishment.
It can only vacate the award. A win for Brady means it goes back to a new appeal, but this time with no morons in decision making capacity.

Ivan · Aug 11, 2015

"Neutral?" Does anyone really believe there is anything "neutral" in an NFL arbitration.

Overturned and then a huge defamation suit after the Super Bowl.

New England Pride · Aug 11, 2015

PATS16N0 said:
Overturned since that would happen sooner.

The evidence is already there that Brady didn't do anything. I give no ****s what some hick in Denver or Indiana think, nor do I give a **** about the delusional conspiracy-ramblings that come from Jersey.

Couldn't agree more with you my man. Let them think whatever they want to think. The truth is, Brady has been shredding defenses and winning titles for years now.

PATS16N0 · Aug 11, 2015

They're losers and so many beat downs from the Pats have damaged them psychologically.

Patriot fans that care what they think are doing it wrong.

NashuaPats · Aug 11, 2015

As much as I would enjoy an honest hearing from a neutral arbitrator that would most certainly humiliate the league, I just want this over. That said, I would love to see a defamation suit.

IllegalContact · Aug 11, 2015

overturned.....the entire nfl case is stupid and the people who are still convinced that brady cheated will always think that brady cheated

Tony2046 · Aug 11, 2015

Overturned. Guaranteed to play the whole season and get this thing behind him. File a defamation lawsuit later on to teach Roger a lesson.

PATS16N0 · Aug 11, 2015

I CAN'T HEAR YOU BEHIND ALL THESE LOMBARDI TROPHIES. YOU'LL HAVE TO SPEAK UP, BUT DON'T BOTHER. YOUR TEAM IS BAD, YOU'RE A JEALOUS LOSER, AND WE BEAT YOU ALL THE TIME.

(Just copy/paste this and spam it wherever needed. That is the right way to deal with haters, now made instantaneous/paste worthy by a 4th Superbowl victory)

PATS16N0 · Aug 11, 2015

NO WE DON'T USE MAGIC FOOTBALLS. YOU'RE KINDA DUMB AND BAD LIKE YOUR TEAM

resdubwhite · Aug 11, 2015

Option 3 please. Burn the whole stinking house down.

fnordcircle · Aug 11, 2015

Whatever gets him onto the field.

Minds are already made up, the how and when of it won't matter to anyone.

DaBruinz · Aug 11, 2015

Ice_Ice_Brady said:
If it were overturned, it would be a win for Brady, but it wouldn't necessarily clear him since he would have gotten off on a "technicality." Still, most people don't really follow this stuff closely and would just see that he won and the NFL lost in trying to convict him. In addition, this issue wouldn't really be over, since the NFL would likely appeal, meaning the cloud would continue to hang over our heads.

Sending it to a neutral arbitrator would drag this out further and potentially lead to missing games later in the season, but Brady would get a chance to clear his name to the small percentage of people who really care about justice and don't froth at the mouth thinking about the Patriots. For many of us, though, a neutral arbitrator exonerating Brady or drastically reducing his penalty would likely be more satisfying because the Federal Court can "get him off the hook" but can't actually proclaim his innocence.

The judge could overturn the ruling saying that it was clear that Mr. Brady did nothing wrong and that the NFL foisted this menagerie on everyone, including Mr. Brady, in an attempt to hurt Mr. Brady and the Patriots.

Patstopia · Aug 11, 2015

Yes to both

RobertWeathers · Aug 11, 2015

Ice_Ice_Brady said:
If it were overturned, it would be a win for Brady, but it wouldn't necessarily clear him since he would have gotten off on a "technicality." Still, most people don't really follow this stuff closely and would just see that he won and the NFL lost in trying to convict him. In addition, this issue wouldn't really be over, since the NFL would likely appeal, meaning the cloud would continue to hang over our heads.

Sending it to a neutral arbitrator would drag this out further and potentially lead to missing games later in the season, but Brady would get a chance to clear his name to the small percentage of people who really care about justice and don't froth at the mouth thinking about the Patriots. For many of us, though, a neutral arbitrator exonerating Brady or drastically reducing his penalty would likely be more satisfying because the Federal Court can "get him off the hook" but can't actually proclaim his innocence.

The way I see it, if the US Federal Court System finds that the NFL is out of its mind and rules for Brady is fine with me. That potentially helps the Pats get picks back (maybe).

I could care less if it goes to a neutral arbitrator. Get the guy on the field ASAP.

Anyone who thinks hes guilty now will still most likely still think he is guilty. You can't fix stupid.

The Gr8est · Aug 11, 2015

Vacating the suspension doesn't get Goodell fired, while a neutral arbiter displaying Goodell's huge bias and incompetence could grease the skids for him leaving.

Ring 6 · Aug 11, 2015

DaBruinz said:
The judge could overturn the ruling saying that it was clear that Mr. Brady did nothing wrong and that the NFL foisted this menagerie on everyone, including Mr. Brady, in an attempt to hurt Mr. Brady and the Patriots.

The judge is only ruling on the arbitration. He cannot overturn the Commissioners penalties, only refer it back to another appeal hearing before an independent arbitrator.

JJC · Aug 11, 2015

These could be one in the same thing. Suppose the judge determines the following:

The CBA allows Goodell the leeway to do everything up through the punishment assessed
However, the Player is entitled to a fair and impartial hearing
The appeal was anything BUT fair and impartial
The appeal decision is vacated and the whole thing is being thrown to an outside arbitrator

So, you end up with the appeal decision being overturned AND the case being thrown to a third party arbitrator appointed by the judge.

Poll: Would you prefer Brady's punishment overturned or sent to a neutral arbitrator?

Would you rather have Brady's punishment overturned or sent to an independent arbitrator?

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