Point Blank: if this ends poorly are you done with football?

No...and it won't end poorly.

mosey threetupu said:

Should've been around back in the day. Obviously not a real fan.

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I am a real fan. I was going to continue be a fan long after Belichick and Brady left and the Pats eventually go into mediocrity or bad and suffer what some fans here suffered before the Brady/Belichick era. But this league corruption is turning me away.

As much as I love Brady and the team, football the sport is why I grew to love them. It's a part of me. I can't give it up, no matter how much BS occurs.

This current front office of the NFL is as corrupt as can be, but they won't last.

I don't think I'll ever be done with the sport itself, however, the politics of this sport can go **** itself in the ass.

Only the weak would walk away ...........

We must work harder for change regardless of the outcome ........

You know what'll happen? If we all stop watching games the NFL will claim its because even pats fan's can't stand the cheating from their own team and most all other fan bases will believe it because there won't be any of us around to refute it.

So long as the anti-Pats cabal is in power, what's the point in staying long term? Deck stacking possibilities looming over the team at all times? Disgusting. It would always be on my mind that things were rigged in some way. Just seeing the NFL logo would make me feel unclean.

TWO FIRST ROUND PICKS STOLEN!!!! All in the name of envious hatred and a twisted notion of parity. God, it's a good thing I'm not a psychopath!

No, just no. The PTB go or I do.

Can't give it up and good or bad I'm still watching.

I'm a lifer, tied to my teams with no possibility of parole. Even though I despise them with every fiber of my being, the Maple Leafs are still my team despite decades of incompetent ownership and pathetic performance and they always will be. The same could have been said of the Patriots at some point.

Like teams, league management comes and goes. We're stuck with them, and with sports in general because we grew up that way, playing the games, watching with our Dads, living and dying with playoffs and then "there's always next year". A bigger issue to me is how all the money rolling in has so badly affected ALL the games I love. Players almost never seem to stay for their whole careers any more whereas it was commonplace before. Whenever an issue of quality/integrity versus more money comes up, I've never seen quality/integrity win. Even when everyone involved is obscenely wealthy, it's not enough, the money train runs over everything in front of it.

It's also tied to the media explosion that's taken place with cable and the internet. Ever more writers looking for the same number of eyeballs. The crafty ones without ethics know they can troll their fanbases or others and delight in doing so, with no intention of having any logic or integrity - and they prosper as a result. The few good ones get shouted down by the mass of mediocrity, all pumped up by the individual bias and hatred of other fan bases.

So what to do? Retreat into a shell and live a life of quiet contemplation by throwing the TV and computer out and going for long walks in the woods while taking up yoga? Probably should do that, but like you, I won't. Because I've been sentenced to life without possibility of parole.

SEA_Pat said:

So what to do? Retreat into a shell and live a life of quiet contemplation by throwing the TV and computer out and going for long walks in the woods while taking up yoga? Probably should do that, but like you, I won't. Because I've been sentenced to life without possibility of parole.

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Hey, meditation can be fun. Visualizing a meteor striking NFL HQ, or maybe mobs of idiots howling in agony, their licensed purple-black/blue-white/green-white gear engulfed in flames. Ah, nirvana.

I made the decision to stop watching football. The outcome of the Brady suit won't change that decision. I just can no longer support the NFL. They killed it for me. I gave 'em a second chance after Spygate, but this whole thing, over nothing, pushed me over the edge. It's supposed to be fun and there has been absolutely nothing fun about the NFL since the SuperBowl. It just makes me so mad to think about what the NFL has done to Tom Brady that it wouldn't be healthy for me to continue watching.

IcyPatriot said:

Only the weak would walk away ...........

We must work harder for change regardless of the outcome ........

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I think you've got that a little backwards. Walking away from the NFL* is the only way to create change as the group of the corrupt 32 only understand one language: $$$$$$$$

If you don't walk away you're saying you're ok with their corruption or the drug that is the NFL* is too much for you to give up, or you're one of those who say if everyone doesn't stop watching the NFL then I won't make a dent so why should I stop watching.

We do all have to remember that football is a sport that goes farther than this league. And also until 2006 the NFL was well run and not corrupt or biased. Plus just remember Goodell won't be here forever even if he wins this debacle.

I guess the question comes down to how much do you truly love the Patriots and how much do you truly love the game of football.

VectorPrime said:

I don't count any of the months before the Wells report because we were all under a delusion regarding how things were going. It wasn't until May that we found out the truth, that we were being f.ucked.

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we thought it was independent.

the nfl is the national fellatio league because goodell blows.

Wheelman said:

I think you've got that a little backwards. Walking away from the NFL* is the only way to create change as the group of the corrupt 32 only understand one language: $$$$$$$$

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The issue is a few angry Patriot fans chosing to no longer support the NFL won't accomplish very much.

Let's face it: the tides can turn all they want and Goodell can be disliked by many other fans as it already is, but no other fans except ours are angry enough at him and the job he's doing to follow suit. They simply won't. They don't care enough to. And most Patriot fans admittedly won't care enough after a while either to attempt anything substantial.

I have not had much trouble with my decision. Keep in mind that I was an NFL junkie. My sirius radio was tuned exclusively to the NFL station, 12 months a year. I downloaded and listened to every NFL network podcast. I listened to PFW in Progress and the other Pats podcasts.

From the day Goodell handed down the Pats and Brady punishments, I stopped all of it cold turkey. I haven't read a single training camp report. Couldn't tell you the first thing about any NFL team.

I've switched to golf on TV and politics on the radio. I haven't watched basketball or baseball for years. I don't think I'll miss football. Honestly, the officiating last year almost pushed me over the edge. I now believe the game is probably fixed, at the top levels of the league office.

Joey007 said:

Let's face it: the tides can turn all they want and Goodell can be disliked by many other fans as it already is, but no other fans except ours are angry enough at him and the job he's doing to follow suit. They simply won't. They don't care enough to. And most Patriot fans admittedly won't care enough after a while either to attempt anything substantial.

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I'm not trying to send them a message. They just simply killed the fun for me. The highest levels of the league office conducted a sting and destroyed the reputation of one of the best teams, best coaches, and best players in the history of sports, all concocted literally out of thin air. I just can't watch it anymore.

Joey007 said:

The issue is a few angry Patriot fans chosing to no longer support the NFL won't accomplish very much.

Let's face it: the tides can turn all they want and Goodell can be disliked by many other fans as it already is, but no other fans except ours are angry enough at him and the job he's doing to follow suit. They simply won't. They don't care enough to. And most Patriot fans admittedly won't care enough after a while either to attempt anything substantial.

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After the whole Ray Rice incident I was pretty much in the I want to stop watching the NFL* but I'm not going to do it if everyone else doesn't. I would have stopped watching the NFL* if everyone else would have to send the NFL* and the 32 a message to get their house in order. Nobody watching the NFL* for 2 years would be a good punishment for them in my opinion.

After Framegate, I just won't watch it anymore after Brady and Belichick retire ever again.

When Brady and bb retirement im out

I live in California and I usually watch the games on free streams. Since this makes the NFL apoplectic, I will continue to watch. I was going to fly out this year to catch the opening game because I wanted to see the banner raised, but I'm not going to do that now. Not sure If I can justify spending money on the NFL any more.

VectorPrime said:

Its the 11th hour of this entire deflategate fiasco and there is still yet hope that there might yet be vindication. After 3 months of absolute crap since the Wells Report dropped the tide has finally shifted in the national media regarding everything. Back in May where it seemed like everything was ruined there is now room for optimism.

At the same time we are witnessing the NFL act in perhaps the most openly and shockingly corrupt manner I have ever seen a multi billion dollar company act. And yes, that includes Oil conglomerates, banking institutions, multinational corporations and the like because they are usually much better at hiding their evil from the public eye. Whether its through sheer incompetence or arrogance the NFL is being plainly open about how its acting. Its of course why so many national media people are now turning to Brady's side. But here's the scary part, none of it might matter. The NFL, and Goodell, might get away with this scott free because of the possibility that a judge rules in their favor because of a shockingly godawful CBA.

For me, I think its safe to say that I am staking my final bit of interest in the sport on the results of this case. If the suspension is vacated then I can breath easily for the first time in months. If it's not, I honestly think I'm done with the game. I don't even know if I would be able to stomach watching any game again, even with Brady and Belichick still in the game, if this sort of blatant corruption is allowed to win.

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Vector, I think it is safe to say my future of NFL fandom significantly relies on this outcome. I will always support Tom Brady. If he stays in the league six more years I'll watch as long as he remains.

But there is no way on God's green earth that I will spend a nickel on the NFL or watch it if Goodell or anyone like him remains in a position of power. I have watched 13 amazing years of football. I will never again experience and enjoy the sport like I have under TB12. An epic player, an epic leader, a legend. Tom Brady means more than this corrupt ****ing league.

If the NFL gets the upper hand in it I'm done after TB. If good prevails I might just raise my future child on a game I've grown to love.