Florio Jumps Aboard the Wells-Columbia Story

BradyBranch39 · Aug 6, 2015

The irony is obvious. The NFL had leaked damaging and incorrect information to ESPN about the investigation — information that made an independent investigation inevitable and that put the Patriots on the defensive — and no one with the league office or the firm investigating the situation seemed to care. The Patriots repeatedly asked the NFL to direct Wells to investigate the leaks, and the NFL consistently declined. The Commissioner said in May that Wells had the opportunity to explore the leaks, but Wells obviously chose not to do so.

So Wells was “outraged” when the leaks undermined his efforts, but he was nonchalant when the leaks undermined the Patriots’ interests.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...-didnt-hire-columbia-physicists-due-to-leaks/

SVN · Aug 6, 2015

Dont know how the Judge will rule but I wont mind him being the next commish. Within 1 week he has done more for the progress and facts of the case which the NFL didnt do in 8 months and counting+millions of dollars.

shmessy · Aug 6, 2015

Your thread title does not match the point you are making.

BradyBranch39 · Aug 6, 2015

shmessy said:
Your thread title does not match the point you are making.

better?

Hoodie · Aug 6, 2015

The integrity of the League is certainly questionable but, at least we know the outcome of games are not in question. If they had been the NE Patriots would not be your Super Bowl Champions.

Betterthanmost · Aug 6, 2015

Wells is shady.
What was the need for this scientific findings to be so confidential? This is SHADY!!!!

VectorPrime · Aug 6, 2015

I think you quoted the wrong part.

shmessy · Aug 6, 2015

BradyBranch39 said:
better?

Yup. Subbed "story" for "wagon". Now it makes sense!

ViperGTS · Aug 6, 2015

Hoodie said:
The integrity of the League is certainly questionable but, at least we know the outcome of games are not in question. If they had been the NE Patriots would not be your Super Bowl Champions.

They may have been SB champions in 12 or 13 when they had a bag job game in Baltimore week 3. Phantom penalties on 3rd and long multiples times for the Ravens. The announcers were pointing it out. Granted replacement officials but still. That one game changed the playoff seeding. Baltimore misses the playoffs without that win. And don't beat them in the AFCG.

This years SB was hard to do much with. So much scrutiny was on the game that something such as the Eli non sack in 2007 may not have occurred this time around.

mgcolby · Aug 6, 2015

It's weird....because I read the entire transcript, so I can't get excited about articles that talk about information pulled from the transcript....

I am waiting for a reporter to actually dive in, point out all of the inconsistencies between the wells report, the 20 page upholding doc, the transcript and what has been publicly said - and tie it up in a nice concise, easy to read and understand monologue. Then just maybe enough people will really understand...."oh ****, if they can do this to Tom Brady....then what about (insert name of player who wishes he was Tom Brady).

Then folks, I will get excited. The piece mail stuff just doesn't do it. People have to short a memory or didn't happen to read an article with pertinent information. One example that comes to mind: "well obviously the Ravens had issues with the kicking balls, so those crazy cheating Pats were up to something" not realizing that it is not Patriot employees but NFL employees that insert kicking balls into the game, or the inconvenient fact that the dude responsible for that was outed for stealing in game kicking balls to sell on Ebay or wherever and ultimately fired. Again just one example of many.

That should be a Sunday front page article considering all the other BS that has surrounded this frame job.

Thanks for listening to the rant.

shmessy · Aug 6, 2015

mgcolby said:
I am waiting for a reporter to actually dive in, point out all of the inconsistencies between the wells report, the 20 page upholding doc, the transcript and what has been publicly said - and tie it up in a nice concise, easy to read and understand monologue. Then just maybe enough people will really understand...."oh ****, if they can do this to Tom Brady....then what about (insert name of player who wishes he was Tom Brady).

Well then, here ya go! 10+ minutes of Mike Florio's summary judgement:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...deflategate-decision-without-enough-evidence/

1960Pats · Aug 6, 2015

Hoodie said:
The integrity of the League is certainly questionable but, at least we know the outcome of games are not in question. If they had been the NE Patriots would not be your Super Bowl Champions.

Just because the Pats won in spite of the efforts of those responsible for administering the league, it doesn't change the fact that those dipsticks were trying to affect the outcome of games on the field. Luckily, most of them are former Jets and are as successful off the field as their team is on the field.

SVN · Aug 6, 2015

mgcolby said:
It's weird....because I read the entire transcript, so I can't get excited about articles that talk about information pulled from the transcript....

I am waiting for a reporter to actually dive in, point out all of the inconsistencies between the wells report, the 20 page upholding doc, the transcript and what has been publicly said - and tie it up in a nice concise, easy to read and understand monologue. Then just maybe enough people will really understand...."oh ****, if they can do this to Tom Brady....then what about (insert name of player who wishes he was Tom Brady).

Then folks, I will get excited. The piece mail stuff just doesn't do it. People have to short a memory or didn't happen to read an article with pertinent information. One example that comes to mind: "well obviously the Ravens had issues with the kicking balls, so those crazy cheating Pats were up to something" not realizing that it is not Patriot employees but NFL employees that insert kicking balls into the game, or the inconvenient fact that the dude responsible for that was outed for stealing in game kicking balls to sell on Ebay or wherever and ultimately fired. Again just one example of many.

That should be a Sunday front page article considering all the other BS that has surrounded this frame job.

Thanks for listening to the rant.

http://www.stradleylaw.com/nfl-brady-deflategate-transcript/

mgcolby · Aug 6, 2015

SVN said:
http://www.stradleylaw.com/nfl-brady-deflategate-transcript/

I read that but its not neat and tidy for the average football fan. She does a good job. But again its in multiple aricles. We need an article that really condenses everything with facts, that is easy for the average fan to consume.

mgcolby · Aug 6, 2015

shmessy said:
Well then, here ya go! 10+ minutes of Mike Florio's summary judgement:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...deflategate-decision-without-enough-evidence/

Thank you for that. It is what I was looking for sort of. It needs to be front page of a newspaper/website, Watergate style. Yes, I know what I am asking for is unrealistic.

GrogansArmy · Aug 6, 2015

shmessy said:
Well then, here ya go! 10+ minutes of Mike Florio's summary judgement:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...deflategate-decision-without-enough-evidence/

Not a fan of Florio, but wow... this needs to get more traction and visibility.

Patsfanin Philly · Aug 6, 2015

Who knows if the leak didn't come from the NFL when Columbia mentioned during the initial screening process that it could have been nature and the Ideal Gas Law causing the deflation...and Wells decided to find somebody who would tell him what he wanted to hear.....?

I mean, it's more likely than not that he was generally aware of it.....

Mack Herron · Aug 6, 2015

Robert, please take note:

Which serves only to further undermine public confidence in the game of professional football. Which cries out for the owners to demand significant changes to the way things work.

In the past three years, the Saints and Patriots have seen what can happen. If improvements aren’t made, the real question is which owner’s team is next?

n6249c · Aug 6, 2015

Patsfanin Philly said:
Who knows if the leak didn't come from the NFL when Columbia mentioned during the initial screening process that it could have been nature and the Ideal Gas Law causing the deflation...and Wells decided to find somebody who would tell him what he wanted to hear.....?

I mean, it's more likely than not that he was generally aware of it.....

Yep, I was thinking the same thing. I mean, it's not like the NFL offices never leaked anything else. They could easily have had somebody who thought consulting with Columbia would give their investigation some credibility, and leaked that info. Heck, seeing it leaked might've been awake-up call for Wells and Goody, made them realize that they wouldn't be able to control either the process or the outcome if they went to Columbia. That probably was it, regardless of where the leak originated. Or even more Machiavellian, they orchestrated the Columbia inquiry and leak to add credibility then did a bait and switch by going to Exponent.

archstanton543 · Aug 6, 2015

mgcolby said:
The piece mail stuff just doesn't do it.

Piecemeal.

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