Dan Wetzel :Roger Goodell's manipulation of Tom Brady's testimony leaves NFL on slippery slope

Excellent. That's the best summary I've seen that's likely to get through to the "science? bla-bla-bla" crowd.

At this point it's fair to say the NFL was immediately convinced the New England Patriots deflated footballs in the AFC championship game and then worked backward with great diligence and, at times, great duplicity to conclude it as true.

how does anyone in the NFL – owner, coach, player or fan – possibly trust the league office to investigate and rule on anything ever again?

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The answer, my friends, is to revamp the league office. Get rid of Goodell, hire someone respectable, vacate all deflategate penalties, restore credibility. Let's hope Robert is working the phones now.

All the faith in humanity these articles restore vaporizes when I read the comments. Holy hell people!

Oswlek said:

All the faith in humanity these articles restore vaporizes again when I read the comments. Holy hell people!

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Yeah don't read those. Fortunately we don't have to convince the masses. A majority of owners will suffice. Pretty sure they are not enjoying seeing their business dragged through the mud.

Oswlek said:

All the faith in humanity these articles restore vaporizes again when I read the comments. Holy hell people!

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It does kind of feel like we've been put in an asylum or a lot of people just escaped from one. I've seen numerous articles where the theme is "Patriots did nothing wrong, NFL framed them."

Then you read the comments and people say "Maybe if they weren't cheating..." I don't know how they could miss the point more.

Oswlek said:

All the faith in humanity these articles restore vaporizes again when I read the comments. Holy hell people!

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I know right!!! How can these people comment online when they're illiterate?!?

turkeyneck said:

Excellent. That's the best summary I've seen that's likely to get through to the "science? bla-bla-bla" crowd.

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Here's my question to Wetzel - in the last 2 thirds of his story he makes a compelling case that the Pats did nothing wrong, Brady did nothing wrong and the league is made up of duplicitous thugs. HOWEVER in the first third he goes out of the way to imply nothing has been proof that the Pats/Brady are innocent, which, when you read the rest of the post, they clearly are. Very curious.

Mack Herron said:

Yeah don't read those. Fortunately we don't have to convince the masses. A majority of owners will suffice. Pretty sure they are not enjoying seeing their business dragged through the mud.

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I usually avoid them, but the evidence is mounting so convincingly that I thought it would be more positive. Boy was I wrong.

Calls for Goodell to resign begin in 3.., 2.., 1....

Based on the leagues action, it has to happen. No one (except for the Jets) can allow Goodell to continue as commissioner after this fiasco

nabwong said:

I know right!!! How can these people comment online when they're illiterate?!?

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Those Jets fans have gotten so good at mashing letters on the keyboard they must be able to spell words out every now and again...

Wetzel clearly straddles the line here by saying the Pats might still be guilty because of Jastremski taking the balls with him into the bathroom and because of the Brady cell phone issue..

He does, however, lambaste Goodell for his handling of the situation.

DaBruinz said:

Wetzel clearly straddles the line here by saying the Pats might still be guilty because of Jastremski taking the balls with him into the bathroom and because of the Brady cell phone issue..

He does, however, lambaste Goodell for his handling of the situation.

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I can live with that if we get our draft picks,qb, and watch the empire crumble.

What is so sad about this entire thing is that you have probably a dozen cases of perjury if these guys were under oath and then you have 8 months, millions of dollars of lawyers, and nothing that implicates Brady, who, by the way, was the only one who spoke under oath. Does that matter? No, you've got Chris Cokehead and the 4 time Super Bowl loser calling Brady a liar.

I've been around for a long time and what I know is when someone claims to know when there are no strong facts, it reveals more about how that person would react under a similar situation.

I reminds me of an old girlfriend way back that used to think I was cheating on her (I wasn't). It ends up that she was cheating on me.

I wonder about these guys who are so sure Brady is lying when Brady is so consistent. Maybe they have such a hard time believing because they have their own character flaws.

I've lost so much respect for so many players because they can't keep their mouths shut.

Kelly and his "prove you're innocent" crap. I say prove there was a crime.

Mack Herron said:

I can live with that if we get our draft picks,qb, and watch the empire crumble.

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I wouldn't be surprised if that is the case. Still can't figure out how the Commissioner justifies a 1st round pick as a penalty for doing everything possible to comply and the league finding no proof of actual tampering with the footballs.

FirstAndGoal said:

I've been around for a long time and what I know is when someone claims to know when there are no strong facts, it reveals more about how that person would react under a similar situation.

I reminds me of an old girlfriend way back that used to think I was cheating on her (I wasn't). It ends up that she was cheating on me.

I wonder about these guys who are so sure Brady is lying when Brady is so consistent. Maybe they have such a hard time believing because they have their own character flaws.

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It's called projection and you are SOOOO right about this. No wonder Goodell and all his cronies are so focused on trying to convince everyone that Brady is lying. THEY are the ones actually lying and they know they would be lying in his position.

Bella*chick said:

It's called projection and you are SOOOO right about this. No wonder Goodell and all his cronies are so focused on trying to convince everyone that Brady is lying. THEY are the ones actually lying and they know they would be lying in his position.

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And these other clown ex-NFL players can't even fathom that maybe Brady didn't know anything about air pressure. Does anyone really believe that Montana, Carter, Rice, Brunell, Kelly, Elway, or any of the other clowns thought about air pressure measurements when they played or how the temp affects the ball? Yet... these clowns can't believe that Brady never thought about it or that even BB thought about it.

They're all asshats who know nothing about air pressure or the ideal gas law before all of this came out but now they're experts on how much Brady knew about it.

Another thing. Anybody catch the Wells testimony where he said the Ideal Gas Law was a theory? What a dipshit. It's a scientific law because it's been proven and there is no disagreement (at all). That's like saying 1 + 1 = 2 is a theory or that H2O is a theoretical formula for water.

I don't expect everyone to be a scientist but scientists have to know how to know something about other subjects. Is it really too much to ask for an educated man like him to understand what constitutes a scientific law or scientific theory? It's the entire basis for science. It's like asking a non-English major to understand what a comma is.

DaBruinz said:

Wetzel clearly straddles the line here by saying the Pats might still be guilty because of Jastremski taking the balls with him into the bathroom and because of the Brady cell phone issue..

He does, however, lambaste Goodell for his handling of the situation.

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That's the way I read it. Hedging your bets is gutless. Call it one way or the other.

To add a bit more context to those who haven't waded through the transcript, Brady explained that normally Jastremski would prepare a dozen balls for a game, but for the Super Bowl, because so many balls are taken out of play to be given away, he would have to prepare 100 balls. Jastremski had never participated in a Super Bowl and Brady had more frequent than normal communications with him to make sure that he was prepared for this additional requirement.