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I am about halfway through the appeal document, and am now thoroughly convinced that the Patriots are innocent. After taking into account timing, there remained an unexplained difference in difference of about 0.4 PSI between the Colts and Patriots balls. Obviously this number is familiar: it's the difference between the Logo and Non-Logo gauge. Hence the suggestion that maybe Walt Anderson used a different gauge for the Colts and Patriots balls, and that the Patriots balls actually start at 12.1 PSI.

This is old news of course. The sticking point with that theory was, why would the Patriots set the balls to 12.1 PSI? It seemed more likely than not that their gauge was accurate. But this is where the new news comes in: Walt Anderson's gauges are off by 0.4 psi, so it was assumed that the gauges used at halftime were Walt Anderson's gauges. Which makes sense, except for one thing: a small note above the second column of the data sheet used to record the half-time measurements (pg 258 of appeal):

"Belonging to JJ"

John Jastremski's gauge, the gauge used to set the Patriots footballs, was off by roughly 0.4 PSI, just like Walt Anderson's Logo gauge. So when Anderson measured the Patriots balls, both gauges agreed that they were 12.5 PSI. Both Anderson's Logo gauge and John Jastremski's gauge were wrong, and the Patriots' fooballs all started the game at 12.1 PSI.

EDIT: HERE'S THE RELEVANT PART OF THE APPEAL, taken from my later comment. Page 215-217:

Q: Now I want to focus your attention on Finding 3 in your deck. Finding 3 says, "If the logo gauge was used to measure the Patriots' balls before the game, then eight of the eleven were above Exponent's expected outcome. Now, to reach this conclusion, your analysis assumes that the actual or true pressure of the game balls delivered to the referee by the Patriots was 12.17 psi, right?
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Q. So you understand that according to the Patriots themselves, the psi level at which they delivered game balls to the referee for the AFC Championship Game was not 12.17, right?

A. They used a gauge and we don't know what gauge they used and we don't know if their gauge had the same kind of differential that the logo gauge had versus the non-logo gauge.

Except we DO know which gauge the Patriots used, it was obviously John Jastremski's gauge. You know, the guy responsible for setting the Patriots' balls psi levels? And from this new piece of evidence, we ALSO know that his gauge was off by the same amount as the logo gauge.

Note: mods feel free to delete the other thread
 
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I think any references to personal PSI gauges belonging to Jastremski or McNally would best be left out, you?
 
I am about halfway through the appeal document, and am now thoroughly convinced that the Patriots are innocent. After taking into account timing, there remained an unexplained difference in difference of about 0.4 PSI between the Colts and Patriots balls. Obviously this number is familiar: it's the difference between the Logo and Non-Logo gauge. Hence the suggestion that maybe Walt Anderson used a different gauge for the Colts and Patriots balls, and that the Patriots balls actually start at 12.1 PSI.

This is old news of course. The sticking point with that theory was, why would the Patriots set the balls to 12.1 PSI? It seemed more likely than not that their gauge was accurate. But this is where the new news comes in: Walt Anderson's gauges are off by 0.4 psi, so it was assumed that the gauges used at halftime were Walt Anderson's gauges. Which makes sense, except for one thing: a small note above the second column of the data sheet used to record the half-time measurements (pg 258 of appeal):

"Belonging to JJ"

John Jastremski's gauge, the gauge used to set the Patriots footballs, was off by roughly 0.4 PSI, just like Walt Anderson's Logo gauge. So when Anderson measured the Patriots balls, both gauges agreed that they were 12.5 PSI. Both Anderson's Logo gauge and John Jastremski's gauge were wrong, and the Patriots' fooballs all started the game at 12.1 PSI.

Note: mods feel free to delete the other thread



Here is the deal. Only one gauge had to be out of calibration and that was Walt's Logo gauge.

IF the Balls from both teams were vigorously prepared, which happens all around the league, and the ball attendant checks and sets the air pressure in the balls before they cool down then the balls would be at 12.2 (Patriots) and 12.7(for the Colts). Walt would have measured 12.5 and 13.

One of many scenarios.
 
I think any references to personal PSI gauges belonging to Jastremski or McNally would best be left out, you?

No, you guys are not seeing the picture at all. Read pages 215-217:

Q: Now I want to focus your attention on Finding 3 in your deck. Finding 3 says, "If the logo gauge was used to measure the Patriots' balls before the game, then eight of the eleven were above Exponent's expected outcome. Now, to reach this conclusion, your analysis assumes that the actual or true pressure of the game balls delivered to the referee by the Patriots was 12.17 psi, right?
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Q. So you understand that according to the Patriots themselves, the psi level at which they delivered game balls to the referee for the AFC Championship Game was not 12.17, right?

A. They used a gauge and we don't know what gauge they used and we don't know if their gauge had the same kind of differential that the logo gauge had versus the non-logo gauge.

Except we DO know which gauge the Patriots used, it was obviously John Jastremski's gauge. You know, the guy responsible for setting the Patriots' balls psi levels? And from this new piece of evidence, we ALSO know that his gauge was off by the same amount as the logo gauge.
 
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Here is the deal. Only one gauge had to be out of calibration and that was Walt's Logo gauge.

IF the Balls from both teams were vigorously prepared, which happens all around the league, and the ball attendant checks and sets the air pressure in the balls before they cool down then the balls would be at 12.2 (Patriots) and 12.7(for the Colts). Walt would have measured 12.5 and 13.

One of many scenarios.

Yes, but look, that all adds complication which is why nobody bought that argument. It is now KNOWN FOR A FACT that Jastremski's gauge was off by the same amount as Walt's, because it was actually his gauge that was used for the half-time measurements, as evidenced by the note "Belonging to JJ." We know that the second half-time gauge was mis-calibrated. We know that it belonged to JJ. We know that Walt's logo gauge, which he recalls using to measure the Patriots balls, was mis-calibrated.
 
Bro the whole point of the case is that the nfl was blissfully unaware of the ideal gas law. You cannot measure balls inside and then expect them to have the same reading 2 hours later in colder wetter conditions. While i think your explanation is cute in a my kid makes pictures out of macaroni kind of way.. I can assure you that jj and the ref were not using the same logo gauge. Thats the whole point.. The refs have two gauges... Jj has another... The weather was a factor... The readings were bs.. Im pretty sure the case cannot be solved by oh jj and the ref used the exact same gauge.... Not the exact same brand of gauge but the exact same gauge and the weather had absolutely no say in the readings... So case closed.
 
Bro the whole point of the case is that the nfl was blissfully unaware of the ideal gas law. You cannot measure balls inside and then expect them to have the same reading 2 hours later in colder wetter conditions. While i think your explanation is cute in a my kid makes pictures out of macaroni kind of way.. I can assure you that jj and the ref were not using the same logo gauge. Thats the whole point.. The refs have two gauges... Jj has another... The weather was a factor... The readings were bs.. Im pretty sure the case cannot be solved by oh jj and the ref used the exact same gauge.... Not the exact same brand of gauge but the exact same gauge and the weather had absolutely no say in the readings... So case closed.


There was a lot of questioning regarding JJ's gauge ending up in the locker room. FYI
 
This is the main problem with this fiasco, they weren't dealing with finely tuned instruments, this whole thing never should have happened without precise protocols in place.
 
This is the main problem with this fiasco, they weren't dealing with finely tuned instruments, this whole thing never should have happened without precise protocols in place.


Exactly. There were a lot of unknowns in this investigation. Actual room temp, how wet the balls were, which gauge was used......on and on.

I will say that Exponent did a decent job defending their analysis although not convincingly.
 
I am about halfway through the appeal document, and am now thoroughly convinced that the Patriots are innocent. After taking into account timing, there remained an unexplained difference in difference of about 0.4 PSI between the Colts and Patriots balls. Obviously this number is familiar: it's the difference between the Logo and Non-Logo gauge. Hence the suggestion that maybe Walt Anderson used a different gauge for the Colts and Patriots balls, and that the Patriots balls actually start at 12.1 PSI.

This is old news of course. The sticking point with that theory was, why would the Patriots set the balls to 12.1 PSI? It seemed more likely than not that their gauge was accurate. But this is where the new news comes in: Walt Anderson's gauges are off by 0.4 psi, so it was assumed that the gauges used at halftime were Walt Anderson's gauges. Which makes sense, except for one thing: a small note above the second column of the data sheet used to record the half-time measurements (pg 258 of appeal):

"Belonging to JJ"

John Jastremski's gauge, the gauge used to set the Patriots footballs, was off by roughly 0.4 PSI, just like Walt Anderson's Logo gauge. So when Anderson measured the Patriots balls, both gauges agreed that they were 12.5 PSI. Both Anderson's Logo gauge and John Jastremski's gauge were wrong, and the Patriots' fooballs all started the game at 12.1 PSI.

EDIT: HERE'S THE RELEVANT PART OF THE APPEAL, taken from my later comment. Page 215-217:



Except we DO know which gauge the Patriots used, it was obviously John Jastremski's gauge. You know, the guy responsible for setting the Patriots' balls psi levels? And from this new piece of evidence, we ALSO know that his gauge was off by the same amount as the logo gauge.

Note: mods feel free to delete the other thread


I like your effort but that is not what it says. It says I don't know what kind of differential the Patriots gauge had.

The NFL argues that if the Patriots footballs showed up at 12.17 then why didn't the Colts footballs show up at 12.68? They then argue that both the Colts and the Patriots And Walt Anderson would all have to have gauges out of calibration by the same rate.
 
I stand corrected he has broke the case.

I wasn't saying he broke the case. I was saying the cute macaroni metaphor should be graduated to a cool Lego construction. haha
 
I like your effort but that is not what it says. It says I don't know what kind of differential the Patriots gauge had.

The NFL argues that if the Patriots footballs showed up at 12.17 then why didn't the Colts footballs show up at 12.68? They then argue that both the Colts and the Patriots And Walt Anderson would all have to have gauges out of calibration by the same rate.

Well that's not the only possibility, Anderson could have switched gauges between the Patriots and Colts balls. Alternately, you can look at it like this: if 2 out of 3 gauges were mis-calibrated, how likely is it that 3 out of 4 were? Look, one of these statements is true:

1. Anderson switched gauges
2. The Colts' gauge was mis-calibrated
3. Tom Brady committed perjury
4. There is some other explanation of the .4 psi difference.

Compared to 3, 1 and 2 don't seem that unlikely.
 
This is the main problem with this fiasco, they weren't dealing with finely tuned instruments, this whole thing never should have happened without precise protocols in place.

wwcd!!
 
Wait. Are you saying that the Patriots submitted under-inflated footballs to the refs (which would not be a violation, by the way), but that they have a good excuse for doing so?
 
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