Florio alleges NFL conspiracy

DarrylS said:

It takes a village to really be idiotic..

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Somewhere there's a village missing its idiot. But it's all good, the NFL* has a commissioner.

Support from PFT is huge. Here are excerpts from an article from June 15, 2009.
Profootballtalk.com acquired by NBC

"We look at it as a high-impact media platform," NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said. "It's phenomenal what he created, and it's very clear that most people in the business look at it. It has impact."

According to Alexa.com, which tracks Internet traffic patterns, PFT's online audience outnumbers that of most newspapers and sports sites. In March, when interest in the site spiked with the start of free agency, PFT attracted 1.7 million unique visitors and 25 million page views.

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/jun/15/sports/sp-profootballtalk.com15

Fencer said:

While I like the idea, I'm not sure what the supposed crime is.

Clearly there could be a tort, and the Patriots might even find a way around the "Do not sue" rules to pursue it. But what would be the crime?

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Conspiracy to commit fraud.

Misprison of Felony.

Perhaps RICO.

There may be more.

The thing is, we don't have all the information necessary for this type of thing.

Even so, let hope flourish. We've taken it on the chin for a long time now.

Patriotic Fervor said:

Conspiracy to commit fraud.

Misprison of Felony.

Perhaps RICO.

There may be more.

The thing is, we don't have all the information necessary for this type of thing.

Even so, let hope flourish. We've taken it on the chin for a long time now.

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RICO is not automatically criminal.

I say this as somebody who was party to an effort to sue the Federal Government under RICO. (This did not go well.)

Froob said:

Man and I've said this before but, all these years most of us (me included) thought he was insane. As it turns out, he was the most sane one on the board.

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I'm pretty new to this site, but one thing I noticed right away was that Joker knew what he was talking about when it came to the Jets connection to NFL HQ. Apparently, he had Goody pegged from the start.

Fencer said:

RICO is not automatically criminal.

I say this as somebody who was party to an effort to sue the Federal Government under RICO. (This did not go well.)

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I agree it is not automatic, but I have to ask...you tried to sue the Feds under RICO???

You already have my admiration....

Patriotic Fervor said:

I agree it is not automatic, but I have to ask...you tried to sue the Feds under RICO???

You already have my admiration....

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I was just along for the ride.

It had to do with the bailout around 1990 or whatever that left the Feds controlling a lot of real estate, including my co-op building. And they didn't sell to the highest bidder, nor the one most beneficial to the other owners. That's the series of events in which I got most of my courtroom experiences -- I was in Federal court, state court, and housing court, as well as happening to go to Small Claims court around the same time on an unrelated matter.

Fencer said:

I was just along for the ride.

It had to do with the bailout around 1990 or whatever that left the Feds controlling a lot of real estate, including my co-op building. And they didn't sell to the highest bidder, nor the one most beneficial to the other owners. That's the series of events in which I got most of my courtroom experiences -- I was in Federal court, state court, and housing court, as well as happening to go to Small Claims court around the same time on an unrelated matter.

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Well, if nothing else, that must have been one hell of an education for you!

Patriotic Fervor said:

I agree it is not automatic, but I have to ask...you tried to sue the Feds under RICO???

You already have my admiration....

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I agree.

That takes balls that could NEVER be deflated!

Fencer said:

I suspect double meaning/wordplay. He probably thought it was a hilarious pun.

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I've thought it was this since the start. He's an equipment guy- that joke is hilarious until someone thinks you deflate footballs illegally. Then suddenly it's incriminating. Even if it did meaning taking air out of balls too, that doesn't mean he was violating the rules. If he set balls up for games or practice, that would've been part of it.

RobAllan said:

I've thought it was this since the start. He's an equipment guy- that joke is hilarious until someone thinks you deflate footballs illegally. Then suddenly it's incriminating. Even if it did meaning taking air out of balls too, that doesn't mean he was violating the rules. If he set balls up for games or practice, that would've been part of it.

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Exactly. He liked to joke around about being some kind of a ball pirate. That doesn't mean he actually was.

Patriotic Fervor said:

Well, if nothing else, that must have been one hell of an education for you!

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Yeah. I'd say the main three parts to my amateur-lawyer education were that, the general experience of setting up and running a start-up, and the time I shoved a libel threat down the offending company's throat.

Fencer said:

RICO is not automatically criminal.

I say this as somebody who was party to an effort to sue the Federal Government under RICO. (This did not go well.)

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2 thoughts:

1. Yes, one can be sued in civil court under RICO as well. As I mentioned in another thread a couple of weeks ago, it happened to my father (unsuccessfully).

2. Attempting to sue the U.S. government rarely works as well as it sounds

Well..at least we have theme music for this thread now....

supafly said:

2. Attempting to sue the U.S. government rarely works as well as it sounds

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I don't know that it ever sounded good, but it seemed like the only recourse other than abject surrender.

Fencer said:

I don't know that it ever sounded good, but it seemed like the only recourse other than abject surrender.

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I'm just teasing you and giving you the business, but I think we'd all be surprised that it actually does sound good to people at times.

I'd be curious to know just how many lawsuits are filed against the U.S. govt every single year, and I'm guessing that it's much higher than I'd expect.