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Browning is one of the most underrated poets, at least these days.

He's basically known for My Last Duchess and a real-life famous wife, which is a shame.

He's not easy to read for most, never mind that it's, gulp, poetry.
 
Since Pro-Football Talk is part of NBC and Sunday Night Football is on NBC, you have to wonder why the NFL isn't pressuring NBC the way they are pressuring ESPN.

I'd have to go back and look, but I remember Florio writing when the NBC first approached him about taking over PFT, he wanted to run them off, so he made the ridiculous demand that he had final authority on all his writing and could get out of the deal if they ever refused. They accepted.

I may not have it exactly, but that's the gist.
 
Posted this elsewhere, this thread is better. Chad Finn...

I thought this was interesting. Dennis knows Kensil tipped the other three rats who tipped Mort...and Kraft knows it because he and Dennis are close from when Kraft owned channel 7 and Dennis was an anchor...

Wonder what happens if this ball of twine starts to unwind.

Dennis’s certainty in fingering Kensil as the main culprit is intriguing, because the host is known to have a tight relationship with the Kraft family dating back to his days as a sports anchor on Channel 7, when Robert Kraft was one of the station’s owners. The friendship, particularly with Robert and Jonathan Kraft, is an occasional source of humor on the show.

Dennis believes that Kensil told high-ranking NFL executives Jeff Pash (vice president and executive counsel), Troy Vincent (vice president of football operations) and Dave Gardi (senior vice president of football operations) that 11 of the 12 footballs were deflated to 2 pounds per square inch below the minimum, and that trio passed the information along to Mortensen, thus allowing him to report he had multiple sources.

If Dennis believes this, it’s a safe bet the Krafts do as well. Too bad we didn’t get to hear him confront Mortensen with his theory. The reporter never would have given up the source – he’d never be fed a morsel of information from anyone again if he did, and that’s his lifeblood as an “insider.”

But it would have been fascinating to hear his reaction. It would be interesting to hear anything from Mortensen about the bungled story, actually. An explanation, if not an all-out mea culpa, about why the story is still on ESPN’s site without a correction is about six months overdue.

[By the way, this Chad Finn is pretty decent (knows how to google), why do they need that incompetent Volin to write the marquee column?]

http://www.boston.com/sports/footba...story.html?p1=stream_sports_football_patriots
 
yeah, I just went over there and there were 52 comments and EVERY single one of them were at worst anti-Goodell and the league, and most were Pro-Pats.

In the past I would comment on Florio stories when he showed his pro-Steeler/anti-Pats bias. Most of the time my posts would be edited out, so I stopped going to the site. I'm beginning to wonder if my name is still on his "edit out" list.
I just responded to one of the comments over there....One anti-Patriots guy said, basically -- You guys are guilty. Your balls were 1 PSI below 12.5. I had to tell him even the Wells report said that was exactly where they'd be expected to be.
 
Posted this elsewhere, this thread is better. Chad Finn...

I thought this was interesting. Dennis knows Kensil tipped the other three rats who tipped Mort...and Kraft knows it because he and Dennis are close from when Kraft owned channel 7 and Dennis was an anchor...

Wonder what happens if this ball of twine starts to unwind.





[By the way, this Chad Finn is pretty decent (knows how to google), why do they need that incompetent Volin to write the marquee column?]

http://www.boston.com/sports/footba...story.html?p1=stream_sports_football_patriots

That is really interesting....It would explain the letter Gardi wrote. It's possible those three didn't lie to Mortenson. They believed it, too.

However, they never corrected it either.

On the NFLPA vs. NFL law suit, Judge Berman only wants more supporting information, not new information. This would seem to fit the first category, since Kessler mentioned the false reports and the failure to correct.
 
Since Pro-Football Talk is part of NBC and Sunday Night Football is on NBC, you have to wonder why the NFL isn't pressuring NBC the way they are pressuring ESPN.

They might be.
When florio agreed to partner with nbc he retained 100% editorial control as a condition.
 
Well Florio is also upset that his original scoop of footbals were a few tick underneath didnt get enough cover and mort screwed up. Regardless, he is doing a good job. I will two of the biggest NFL media companies in ESPN and NFLN were not anti pats. Else this could spread like crazy.

This nugget from florio should be in the wells context report.
Well Florio is also upset that his original scoop of footbals were a few tick underneath didnt get enough cover and mort screwed up. Regardless, he is doing a good job. I will two of the biggest NFL media companies in ESPN and NFLN were not anti pats. Else this could spread like crazy.

This nugget from florio should be in the wells context report.

Give them a chance - it will be
 
Multiple lies here:

-Mort goes back to his sources when new report surfaces saying Pats balls were only about 1 pound low vs. 2, source says "no, that's wrong, we are right"
-Sources say all Colts balls were within regulation - only 4 were actually tested, and 3 of 4 were out of regulation
-Sources say Colts also preferred balls inflated to low end of spec - Wells Report shows they actually wanted middle of spec

Maybe I don't remember this right, but didn't the league claim the 10.1 thing was some kind of simple error in communication?
 
Perfectly explainable......

Ummmm...,..
Ummmmm.........

BUT THE TEXTS!!!

........THE......PHONE...!!!!!

PAY NO ATTENTION TO THAT MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN!!!!
Anytime I get in argument with someone over this and they argue with false information so I correct them they always go back to the "deflator" texts, sad thing is I also hear lots of national shows using that also. Pretty sad 1 man's unfortunate use of a word has caused so many to assume guilt and not look at any other facts.
 
Maybe I don't remember this right, but didn't the league claim the 10.1 thing was some kind of simple error in communication?

The whole mess has been an error in communication (read: half-truths, untruths and out and out lies).
 
He's not easy to read for most, never mind that it's, gulp, poetry.

People don't even know his more accessible poetry, e.g. http://www.bartleby.com/246/644.html

I SPRANG to the stirrup, and Joris, and he;
I gallop’d, Dirck gallop’d, we gallop’d all three;
“Good speed !” cried the watch, as the gate-bolts undrew;
“Speed!” echoed the wall to us galloping through;
Behind shut the postern, the lights sank to rest, 5
And into the midnight we gallop’d abreast.

Not a word to each other; we kept the great pace
Neck by neck, stride by stride, never changing our place;
I turn’d in my saddle and made its girths tight,
Then shorten’d each stirrup, and set the pique right, 10
Rebuckled the cheek-strap, chain’d slacker the bit,
Nor gallop’d less steadily Roland a whit.

’T was moonset at starting; but while we drew near
Lokeren, the ****s crew and twilight dawn’d clear;
At Boom, a great yellow star came out to see; 15
At Düffeld, ’t was morning as plain as could be;
And from Mechelm church-steeple we heard the half chime,
So, Joris broke silence with, “Yet there is time!”

At Aershot, up leap’d of a sudden the sun,
And against him the cattle stood black every one, 20
To state thro’ the mist at us galloping past,
And I saw my stout galloper Roland at last,
With resolute shoulders, each butting away
The haze, as some bluff river headland its spray:

And his low head and crest, just one sharp ear bent back 25
For my voice, and the other prick’d out on his track;
And one eye’s black intelligence,—ever that glance
O’er its white edge at me, his own master, askance!
And the thick heavy spume-flakes which aye and anon
His fierce lips shook upwards in galloping on. 30

By Hasselt, Dirck groan’d; and cried Joris “Stay spur!
Your Roos gallop’d bravely, the fault’s not in her,
We ’ll remember at Aix”—for one heard the quick wheeze
Of her chest, saw the stretch’d neck and staggering knees,
And sunk tail, and horrible heave of the flank, 35
As down on her haunches she shudder’d and sank.

So, we were left galloping, Joris and I,
Past Looz and past Tongres, no cloud in the sky;
The broad sun above laugh’d a pitiless laugh,
’Neath our feet broke the brittle bright stubble like chaff; 40
Till over by Dalhem a dome-spire sprang white,
And “Gallop,” gasped Joris, “for Aix is in sight!

“How they ’ll greet us!”—and all in a moment his roan
Roll’d neck and croup over, lay dead as a stone;
And there was my Roland to bear the whole weight 45
Of the news which alone could save Aix from her fate,
With his nostrils like pits full of blood to the brim,
And with circles of red for his eye-sockets’ rim.

Then I cast loose my buffcoat, each holster let fall,
Shook off both my jack-boots, let go belt and all, 50
Stood up in the stirrup, lean’d, patted his ear,
Call’d my Roland his pet name, my horse without peer;
Clapp’d my hands, laugh’d and sang, any noise, bad or good,
Till at length into Aix Roland gallop’d and stood.

And all I remember is, friends flocking round 55
As I sat with his head ’twixt my knees on the ground;
And no voice but was praising this Roland of mine,
As I pour’d down his throat our last measure of wine,
Which (the burgesses voted by common consent)
Was no more than his due who brought good news from Ghent. 60
 
Man and I've said this before but, all these years most of us (me included) thought he was insane. As it turns out, he was the most sane one on the board.

The man has a nose for people who are full of ****e.
 
While I like the idea, I'm not sure what the supposed crime is.

Clearly there could be a tort, and the Patriots might even find a way around the "Do not sue" rules to pursue it. But what would be the crime?


Sue Kensil, Pash, Gardi, Blandino and Goodell individually not the NFL?
 
That is really interesting....It would explain the letter Gardi wrote. It's possible those three didn't lie to Mortenson. They believed it, too.

However, they never corrected it either.

On the NFLPA vs. NFL law suit, Judge Berman only wants more supporting information, not new information. This would seem to fit the first category, since Kessler mentioned the false reports and the failure to correct.



No, they had the measurement from halftime, they knew it was a lie. aLL of them.
 
I am thinking this is Kraft's plan to fight back. I wouldn't be surprised if he (well the Patriots) is the source for John Dennis' Kensil was the leak and giving Florio this interview. I think Kraft is definitely sending a message to the NFL that the Patriots have a solid defamation case against them and give into Brady and exonerate him during the mediation or he is going to go nuclear vs. the League.

The question is whether he will follow through on the threat.

How would Kraft and/or the Patriots know? I'm not saying they don't, merely that I want to know if/how that happened.
 
Posted this elsewhere, this thread is better. Chad Finn...

I thought this was interesting. Dennis knows Kensil tipped the other three rats who tipped Mort...and Kraft knows it because he and Dennis are close from when Kraft owned channel 7 and Dennis was an anchor...

Wonder what happens if this ball of twine starts to unwind.





[By the way, this Chad Finn is pretty decent (knows how to google), why do they need that incompetent Volin to write the marquee column?]

http://www.boston.com/sports/footba...story.html?p1=stream_sports_football_patriots

I am 100% sure this is the simple truth.

Past that it's simply cya + trying to maintain control
 
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