Patriots publish emails to nfl asking to correct false deflategate reports

Patsfanin Philly · Jul 31, 2015

SVN said:
At this point Iam shocked the corrupt league didnt doctor the PSI readings they wrote in the wells report.

Probably not for lack of trying!!!

ctpatsfan77 · Jul 31, 2015

Well, gee, Bert, maybe it's because no pro sports franchise has ever been stabbed in the back by its league like this?

SVN said:
Of course breer has to tweet this ambiguous bit

Albert BreerVerified account‏@AlbertBreer
For better or worse, I don't think I can remember a pro sports franchise acting the way the Patriots have this week. Really amazing.

Tony2046 · Jul 31, 2015

SVN said:
Contrary to commenters on PFT to this report who all are still blaming the pats, the reddit posters are very favorable towards the pats

https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/3fbo86/patriots_put_up_emails_showing_frustration_with/

I can't believe what I was reading there. Non Patriots Fan actually knew the real details about spygate? and another fan stated, "It's not the Pats vs the NFL it's the League vs the NFL". Wow.

ctpatsfan77 · Jul 31, 2015

Bella*chick said:
I tweeted Breer back, saying something like I couldn't remember a sports league acting like this ever either….wait, except Bountygate, Ray Rice, Etc…..

In the Ray Rice case there was an actual something there.

Bella*chick · Jul 31, 2015

ctpatsfan77 said:
In the Ray Rice case there was an actual something there.

I guess I meant more the lies and deception.

Betterthanmost · Jul 31, 2015

What is the trust that the actual recording of the pressures are what has been reported? Based on how this case has been handled, is it not fair for us to ask that question?

Kdo5 · Jul 31, 2015

Bella*chick said:
I tweeted Breer back, saying something like I couldn't remember a sports league acting like this ever either….wait, except Bountygate, Ray Rice, Etc…..

You know I was thinking about this earlier, how people will try to change the narrative if the Pats really start fighting back.

Either they will call the organization immature and unprofessional or they will complain about us "still talking about deflate gate".

Breer is basically heading down that route with his tweet.

Charlotte Pats Fan · Jul 31, 2015

Kdo5 said:
You know I was thinking about this earlier, how people will try to change the narrative if the Pats really start fighting back.

Either they will call the organization immature and unprofessional or they will complain about us "still talking about deflate gate".

Breer is basically heading down that route with his tweet.

Would you call failing to correct incorrect psi numbers for 4 months acting professional or mature? Who cares what breer thinks

SVN · Jul 31, 2015

Stephanie Stradley ‏@StephStradley 8h8 hours ago
The more pointed criticism of NFL GC Pash isn't without risk to Patriots. From May http://abovethelaw.com/2015/05/should-tom-brady-sue-the-nfl-and-roger-goodell-a-deflategate-email-exchange/

SVN · Jul 31, 2015

Stephanie Stradley ‏@StephStradley 8h8 hours ago
Stephanie Stradley retweeted Mike Reiss
Patriots Context Report is unique. Without this, we could only suspect, not know, what Wells left out of his report.

patfanken · Jul 31, 2015

SVN said:
Of course breer has to tweet this ambiguous bit

Albert BreerVerified account‏@AlbertBreer
For better or worse, I don't think I can remember a pro sports franchise acting the way the Patriots have this week. Really amazing.

I am exceedingly interested in finding how many times I could slap Bert Breer in the face before he FINALLY fought back. Then maybe he'd understand the logic behind the Pats motive to release those emails.

The guy is a ****ing idiot and most of what he writes is idiotic. The above quote just shows how much. Just how much crap was the Pats organization supposed to take before it fought back. I guess when Breer gets confronted, he merely hides in his locker.

ThatllMoveTheChains!!! · Jul 31, 2015

condon84 · Jul 31, 2015

Love it.

Screw everybody.

Throw everything out there.

F@(k em all

BradyFTW! · Jul 31, 2015

Tony2046 said:
I can't believe what I was reading there. Non Patriots Fan actually knew the real details about spygate? and another fan stated, "It's not the Pats vs the NFL it's the League vs the NFL". Wow.

On good days, the NFL subreddit is about as good as you'll find. On bad days (like when the suspension was upheld), it's as bad as anywhere else. It'll be generally pro-Pats one day and aggressively anti-Pats the next. Really weird place.

MitchKumstein · Jul 31, 2015

TruthSeeker said:
Everyone, including the other owners, sees how Goodell and the NFL treat one of their franchises - and they (excluding Jerry Jones) may begin to realize that they, too, could see this side of Goodell (as a few teams already have)

Last week I was pissed at Bob Kraft, and now I feel a little bad for him.

He was one of goodell's biggest supporters and was one of the few owners who publicly stood by rog when rog was getting destroyed in the Rice fiasco

And how does rog repay Kraft's loyalty? By sticking a knife in Kraft's back to try to rebuild his own tarnished image.

Kraft made the mistake of trusting goodell to do the right thing and instead he got burned by a scumbag

goodell is just a bad bad person. No regard for anyone but himself. He makes $44 million a year and would probably kick his own mother to the curb if he could make a few bucks by doing it

Patsfanin Philly · Aug 1, 2015

SVN said:
Stephanie Stradley ‏@StephStradley 8h8 hours ago
The more pointed criticism of NFL GC Pash isn't without risk to Patriots. From May http://abovethelaw.com/2015/05/should-tom-brady-sue-the-nfl-and-roger-goodell-a-deflategate-email-exchange/

You could make a strong argument that they aren't technically criticizing them, just giving context by revealing their own words and actions without comment.
Much like the truth is a defense to slander, here it is just revealing the truth.

SVN · Aug 1, 2015

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/patrio...emails-005610492.html?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma

New England released only select emails on Friday so who knows what else was written in the thread or what else it is holding back. What's clear is that early on in this, New England should have stopped trusting the NFL.

Instead Kraft did, got burned and is now eager to air some dirty laundry. With nothing left to lose, the Patriots may make Goodell wish he handled things differently.

It may also remind him that Kraft is as reasonable as anyone could hope for but hardly afraid of confrontation.

How tough is he? Consider back in 2013, when police were closing in on, but had not yet arrested Aaron Hernandez for murdering Odin Lloyd. One morning Hernandez showed up at Gillette Stadium to lift weights. Cops and media were hovering outside, helicopters churning above, as speculation ramped up. Inside Gillette, Patriots employees were smartly running for the hills, eager to not bump into a possible killer, if only because any interaction might drag them into a police investigation and maybe an eventual trial.

Kraft saw it differently. He heard Hernandez was in the weight room and against everyone's advice marched directly to it, found the tight end working out and promptly pulled him into a small office to the side. It was there he told Hernandez to look him in the eye and tell him, man-to-man, if he did it.

"He said he was not involved, that he was innocent," Kraft would testify at Hernandez's 2015 trial, where the owner was a critical prosecution witness because Hernandez offered an alibi that essentially forced his defense team to acknowledge his presence at the murder.

Robert Kraft really isn't someone to be trifled with.

Roger Goodell trifled with him though.

Earlier this week, Kraft apologized to Patriots fans for backing down on the fight and mocked Goodell as someone controlled by lawyers. This is like some kind of country club insult.

It was clear their one-time friendship was over and Goodell had not just lost a chief confidant, but created a bitter enemy. Kraft is savvy and freed from any sense of decorum or loyalty to the league. He knows very well how to speak a language of owners.

Friday's emails aren't about exonerating the Patriots. That ship has mostly sailed. It is about showing a league office drunk on power, overwhelmed by prejudice and completely ignoring the well-reasoned requests of a team.

How does Roger Goodell explain that kind of behavior, a league office perhaps making up stories about a team and, at the very least, letting them sit out there and cause havoc?

That's the question Robert Kraft wants front and center in front of his fellow owners and it's clear he's going to make it happen by any means necessary now.

So let the email leaking commence. "Personal and accusatory" may be just getting started.

JPsPats · Aug 1, 2015

This whole deflategate scandal has been so back and fourth like Super Bowl 49.

Guess who came out on top

.

skinnydog · Aug 1, 2015

SVN said:
Kraft wanted to do the right thing and as Bedard pointed out he still seems to think its goodell's miniions and not goodell himself how is the culprit. I guess the arbitration ruling cleared it up a bit. Not sure unless Kraft starts aiming at goodell next.

Ok, but it's insane. Someone in firing fing flaming arrows at you and you think if you roll over they will play nice??? Who thinks like that? Accepting an unwarranted penalty is never ever the right thing to do. Kraft was a tough SOB. But he is old and now he mostly cares more aha king a pretty blond on his arm and pats on the back from his billionaire buddies than what is right in the everyday real world. He didn't do right by anybody, he capitulated. When you capitulate to the bully the bully does not take pity on you, he is emboldened.

SVN · Aug 1, 2015

Rachel Nichols ‏@Rachel__Nichols 9h9 hours ago
The #Patriots are releasing a bunch of the email correspondence they had with the #NFL office over #DeflateGate: http://wellsreportcontext.com/league-failure-to-correct-misinformation/…
Scott Fujita ‏@sfujita55 7h7 hours ago
@Rachel__Nichols Crazy how eerily similar all this is to what we dealt with. Narrative shaped by leaks, mischaracterizations, & falsehoods.

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