Per Florio - Case assigned to a 'liberal' judge.

smurfalarm · Jul 29, 2015

Rob0729 said:
You can look at it the other way and he is screwing the NFLPA by giving them a short timeframe to put together an appropriate response.

The Patriots' first game is on September 10. How much later than August 13 could the NFLPA possibly push their response without risking pushing this close enough to the season to interfere with game preparation?

Rob0729 · Jul 29, 2015

BradyFTW! said:
Brady's team has presumably been preparing for this since the appeal. If they're really caught flat-footed by only having 14 days, then that's pretty much on them IMO.

I don't blame Brady's lawyers at all. When was the last time the NFL went to court to affirm their own ruling? It never happens. This is unprecedented and no one was expecting this. Even the legal experts were caught off guard by this move.

YOUGOTMOSSED · Jul 29, 2015

Rob0729 said:
Maybe not:

https://twitter.com/RMFifthCircuit/with_replies

Not that unusual. They move fast in Federal Court and you can ask for more time. Although, I imagine that Brady wants a ruling to be made regarding a stay of the suspension ASAP.

dales804 · Jul 29, 2015

manxman2601 said:
Now all we have to do is find a Goodell-Trump link and we're golden.

Looks like that link is Melania Trump:

manxman2601 · Jul 29, 2015

PatsFanSince74 said:
This case is going to make folks whose politics are normally a tad to the right have to hold their noses a bit.

Brady's appeal rests on grounds of due process in a labor arbitration as well as on his rights as an employee to have the stipulations of a Union contract upheld, normally staunchly supported by progressives and liberals, but not so much by fans of Rush and the O'Reilly Factor, who typically refer to such things as "getting off on a technicality because of some left wing, "Femi-Nazi" judge."

Goodell, on the other hand, is on the side of untrammeled corporate and management power, which feels it can lie, cheat and steal to screw the working person.

What fun!

New York politics always cause us who lean right to hold our noses

YOUGOTMOSSED · Jul 29, 2015

I just want them to get this friggen thing out of SDNY. I don't care how "liberal" they think the judge is.

PatsFanSince74 · Jul 29, 2015

resdubwhite said:
As long as hes not neo liberal. Union wont come out well there.

No, he's an old fashioned, lefty liberal, liberal. He has an MSW on top of his JD, which he got at NYU, and studied international law in Stockholm, which we all know is infested with commies and commie-sympathizers.

BradyFTW! · Jul 29, 2015

PatsFanSince74 said:
No, he's an old fashioned, lefty liberal, liberal. He has an MSW on top of his JD, which he got at NYU, and studied international law in Stockholm, which we all know is inhabited by commies and commie-sympathizers.

It would be kinda hilarious if this ended with a NY federal court ruling that Goodell can't arbitrate appeals there either.

Froob · Jul 29, 2015

So is this the real case or what? I thought NFL botched it. No Minnesota?

Patriot Missile · Jul 29, 2015

Am I naive to think Brady will get a fair hearing no matter whether it's in NY or Minnesota? The facts are the facts and science is on the Patriots side while lies and deception is on the the NFLs side. I'm certain any neutral arbitrator will see this. I doubt a federal judge would throw his reputation down the toilet and disregard common labor law to appease Jets fans in his own state.

I could be naive but it would be nice to get an away win in Rogers home state although the safer route would be moving it to Judge Doty in Minnesota according to some reports.

Onedaful · Jul 29, 2015

The NFL rushed it into NY, they were afraid that Doty would get the case.

Patriot Missile · Jul 29, 2015

Well that was quick.

http://itiswhatitis.weei.com/sports...n-minnesota-challenging-tom-brady-suspension/

NY may just defer the case over?

sambam94 · Jul 29, 2015

so my question would be, why wasn't the Brady camp ready to file the second after goodell's ruling came out?

TommyD4207 · Jul 29, 2015

Onedaful said:
The NFL rushed it into NY, they were afraid that Doty would get the case.

I know Doty is the preferred judge of the NFLPA, but I still think a nice little swerve would be filing in Massachusetts. The NFL isn't familiar with the judges, and there really shouldn't be any jurisdictional issues there.

Ross12 · Jul 29, 2015

Looks like the NFLPA has filed in Minnesota already.

Bobsyouruncle · Jul 29, 2015

PatsFanSince74 said:
This case is going to make folks whose politics are normally a tad to the right have to hold their noses a bit.

Brady's appeal rests on grounds of due process in a labor arbitration as well as on his rights as an employee to have the stipulations of a Union contract upheld, normally staunchly supported by progressives and liberals, but not so much by fans of Rush and the O'Reilly Factor, who typically refer to such things as "getting off on a technicality because of some left wing, "Femi-Nazi" judge."

Goodell, on the other hand, is on the side of untrammeled corporate and management power, which feels it can lie, cheat and steal to screw the working person.

What fun!

"Conservatives" or at least some of them would have a problem with the state changing the terms of a private contract entered voluntarily post agreement. The NFL wants to change those terms and claim the CBA says things it didn't say, and doesn't say things it does say. Unless I'm missing it there isn't any rash of right wingers supporting the NFL, in fact many of Brady's biggest supporters have come from that side. The problems only arise if you believe the contract should be enforced based on which party you like best as opposed to what was agreed to. There's simply no reason to do that.

patriot1136 · Jul 29, 2015

We need to make sure this judge has no ties to the Jets, Colts, or Ravens

PatsFanSince74 · Jul 29, 2015

Bobsyouruncle said:
"Conservatives" or at least some of them would have a problem with the state changing the terms of a private contract entered voluntarily post agreement. The NFL wants to change those terms and claim the CBA says things it didn't say, and doesn't say things it does say. Unless I'm missing it there isn't any rash of right wingers supporting the NFL, in fact many of Brady's biggest supporters have come from that side. The problems only arise if you believe the contract should be enforced based on which party you like best as opposed to what was agreed to. There's simply no reason to do that.

That too! Thanks for the comment. I was just trying to lighten things up and poke a little fun.

Froob · Jul 29, 2015

Ross12 said:
Looks like the NFLPA has filed in Minnesota already.

Any links? Like officially?

sieglo · Jul 29, 2015

VectorPrime said:
It's gonna be funny seeing staunch conservatives suddenly take an interest in labor unions and workers rights because their sports hero is involved.

PatsFanSince74 said:
This case is going to make folks whose politics are normally a tad to the right have to hold their noses a bit.

Brady's appeal rests on grounds of due process in a labor arbitration as well as on his rights as an employee to have the stipulations of a Union contract upheld, normally staunchly supported by progressives and liberals, but not so much by fans of Rush and the O'Reilly Factor, who typically refer to such things as "getting off on a technicality because of some left wing, "Femi-Nazi" judge."

Goodell, on the other hand, is on the side of untrammeled corporate and management power, which feels it can lie, cheat and steal to screw the working person.

What fun!

For what it's worth, conservatives are generally pretty staunchly in support of upholding the provisions of any contract -- union or not. It's the progressives that want to throw out any contract in favor of their special interest constituencies -- often unions. See for example how preferred creditors got screwed in the GM bankruptcy proceedings.

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