Even though the Pats back Brady, Is there any way they come out on top of all this?

It just seems like the NFL has completely brainswashed America. It seems like they have had a plan all along to make this happen. Let's be honest here. We can hope Brady wins in court, but I just get the feeling the NFL was ready for this to happen all along. I just get the feeling they will know to twist another story in the wrong direction or make another dishonest move, which would make all this fighting back all for nothing.

Hope I'm wrong, but not one good thing has come out of this.

Doubtful. Let's get over that. Us against the world. Only way is to keep winning and kicking ass.

Just remember its darkest before dawn, and to launch an arrow you have to go backwards first. This is a very tough fight ahead, but there's only 1 person that can grind through and take this thing head on, and it just so happens to be TOM BRADY.

19-0 followed by a defamation suit and Kraft suing Godell.

We can embarass the NFL by at the start of the game paying tribute to Tom Brady for 45 minutes and delaying the game. Then throughout the game we mock Goodell and the NFL

My dream is for Kraft to find a group of like-minded owners who may be jealous of the Pats' success but love money and prestige -- and withdraw from the NFL and form their own league. Some of the biggest names here are the biggest teams and cities - and would allow professional American football to grow internationally without being constrained by small markets.

Kraft could sway:
Jerry Jones and Dallas
Dan Snider and Washington
Jeffrey Lurie and Philly
Arthur Blank and Atlanta
Stan Kronke with the promise of moving the Rams to LA
Mark Davis with the promise of letting the Raiders own all of Northern California
Bob McNair taking the Texans knowing that he can compete directly with the Cowboys

With the entire NFC east involved and with the money out there to be had, he might even be able to sweet talk John Mara in taking the Giants there too.

Kraft tells them all that the rest of the small market teams have been holding them back, they'd get similar money new level TV contracts, would be well-positioned to enter huge markets in London, Manchester, Paris, Berlin. Talking real money now, not Indianapolis and Baltimore money. Leave Goodell and the rest of the slime behind to rot.

Not going to happen, but I can dream....

Joey007 said:

It just seems like the NFL has completely brainswashed America. It seems like they have had a plan all along to make this happen. Let's be honest here. We can hope Brady wins in court, but I just get the feeling the NFL was ready for this to happen all along. I just get the feeling they will know to twist another story in the wrong direction or make another dishonest move, which would make all this fighting back all for nothing.

Hope I'm wrong, but not one good thing has come out of this.

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There isn't much collective brain to wash in my opinion but if your goal is to have America "like" the Patriots again that won't happen. As for whether it's worth it to fight back, I point to Robert Kraft's capitulation in May and ask what did he gain.

Well, FWIW, we probably get this for the remainder of Brady's career:

Kdo5 said:

Doubtful. Let's get over that. Us against the world. Only way is to keep winning and kicking ass.

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With my post what I was meaning was the NFL likely has a way or a plab to make sure they win the court case against Brady. That they were prepared for this. I realize the public opinion is long set.

Three quarters have gone their way. Time for the most epic fourth quarter comeback of Brady's career.

Joey007 said:

With my post what I was meaning was the NFL likely has a way or a plab to make sure they win the court case against Brady.

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Where was this plan in all their other court losses?

TruthSeeker said:

Where was this plan in all their other court losses?

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Hmm well considering those cases were for something that was actually bad..