So what has Brady been hiding?

rochrist said:

Hell, NPR led with the suspension plus phone destroying.

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Literally every single news network is.

rochrist said:

Nobody said he had to give them the phone. But destroying the phone was beyond stupid and the absolute nail in the coffin convicting him outside of NE.

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It pains me to say this, but I have to agree. Why would you destroy the phone in this situation? If you're never going to give it up, then there's no need to destroy it. Destroying it only serves to fuel the case for those who don't believe you. It's why I'm almost convinced that we're going to eventually find out he didn't destroy his phone. Well, at least I hope so.

VectorPrime said:

Exactly. What is so difficult for people to understand about this.

DESTROYING THE PHONE LOOKS BAD. And its inexplicable because he could have just refused to turn it in!

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I LOOOOOOVE Tom Brady, and have backed him blindly on this, but why on earth would you destroy the phone? That's a dumb move.

That was the plan. That's why the NFL released that information and they knew the news would lead with it. This is what's happened at ever single step, the NFL smear machine kicks into gear and we have to respond. I no longer care about the public relations battle. I'm focused on the bigger battle ahead.

Don Yee and whoever else needs to announce specific information on what happened to the phone and why. They need to try and get in front of this runaway train.

I heard from a source, that the reason why Brady destroyed the phone is bc he had a video of himself banging Roger Goodell's wife and daughter. I kid you not, the sources I have come from the same sources at Mortenson

Hoodie said:

That was the plan. That's why the NFL released that information and they knew the news would lead with it. This is what's happened at ever single step, the NFL smear machine kicks into gear and we have to respond. I no longer care about the public relations battle. I'm focused on the bigger battle ahead.

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And it's always on a Tuesday for the Pats. Not Friday. Very tactical.

Welker dropped the phone.

How it probably went down;
NFL: " NFLPA, tell Brady to accept the one game suspension or we will hold to
the four game suspension and tell the world he destroyed his phone.
NFLPA: " Tom did nothing wrong and will not accept even a one game suspension"
NFL: " so be it. "

the phone is just an excuse why the NFL is sticking to the 4 game suspension.
Reality ... Tom wouldn't compromise his belief in himself. Would you?

He destroyed his phone to protect his friends. You've known the man for how many years?
Do you really think he would instruct anyone to tamper with those balls AFTER the refs checked them?
I don't. He destroy his phone to protect his friends not because there was damming info about deflation of footballs on it.

VectorPrime said:

Don Yee and whoever else needs to announce specific information on what happened to the phone and why. They need to try and get in front of this runaway train.

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That and some proof. Activation calls etc. Something concrete that cannot be disputed. The list of people would be a nice start. See who's on there Patriots-wise. Bascially figure out if it's a BS list or an actual list.

PatsGuy said:

This truly adds a lot to this discussion

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FU too

I understand why Brady would destroy his phone- personal privacy and all that- but I don't understand why he would do it at such a time where all the scrutiny was already on him. Why not wait?

DC_Patriot said:

I understand why Brady would destroy his phone- personal privacy and all that- but I don't understand why he would do it at such a time where all the scrutiny was already on him. Why not wait?

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A very valid question.

VectorPrime said:

Literally every single news network is.

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Anderson Cooper and CNN tonight: Brady Hid Evidence; Destroyed His Cell Phone

rochrist said:

Nobody said he had to give them the phone. But destroying the phone was beyond stupid and the absolute nail in the coffin convicting him outside of NE.

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Brady was convicted by those outside of NE the day after the AFCCG. Nothing will ever change that, even if 100% proof he and the team is innocent, morons will still believe and say what they want. Hell, didn't you know Elvis is still alive?

rochrist said:

Anderson Cooper and CNN tonight: Brady Hid Evidence; Destroyed His Cell Phone

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Cooper is an idiot and his show sucks.

Silver Blue&Red said:

FU too

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Maybe u should ask the mods to start a gay forum on Patsfans n u could get it going!

Fencer said:

That Brady has been stonewalling a bit seems evident.

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I stopped reading right there.

Everyone on this board has blinders on. The NFL claims (and Team Brady has never refuted this) that the request was for Brady and his lawyers to sift through his emails and texts and hand over only those relevant to ball deflation. So, the thousands of posts on here about Brady not having to turn over his phone are completely irrelevant. The request was for relevant messages. The reasonable, logical man must assume that they wouldve been turned over if they were not inculpatory.

I could give a ****e, if he is hiding something or not. Ty for the SB . Its no wonder why non Pats fans are so suspicious when we Pats fans with any rumour about Brady , start doubting him. Pitiful .
oh and BTW we are talking about psi which wasn't even illegal.