Stephen A Smith: Brady's suspension to be upheld, Brady destroyed cell phone

The Gr8est · Jul 28, 2015

grux said:
I find it hard to believe if the Patriots were caught cheating and Belichick had nothing to do with it, he would be banned from the league. Steven A. Smith is a fountain of misinformation. Ignore the noise.

I find it outrageous that Kraft would accept a stipulation like that for Spygate when there was no cheating.

IcyPatriot · Jul 28, 2015

FWIW:

http://www.cfsiusa.com/Computerforensicimaging.html

captain insano · Jul 28, 2015

get the injunction and bring it to court already.

fair catch fryar · Jul 28, 2015

Stephen A. Smith and Ben Volin are screaming puppets that don't even listen to themselves when they speak. They will say whatever makes them relevant at the moment.

FreeTedWilliams · Jul 28, 2015

two different worlds when you are talking about text messageses versus emails.

Any email is stored on upwards of ten servers, so finding a deleted email is pretty easy (unless your the head of the IRS). An email is a message sent from a service (i.e. yahoo, Microsoft, google) through to another service an to multiple platforms, each one of those platforms saves a copy of it, so it is very easy to retrieve a deleted email.

text messages are very different, they are only on the two phones and the carriers server. If both phones are on the same carrier, it is even harder to find them once they are deleted. imessage (texts between two iphone users) are impossible to retrieve once they are removed from the phones. In fact they do not even appear on court ordered wire taps.

the carrier only dedicates a minimal amount of RAM for texts, and usually within two to three days, the text data is overwritten on the servers hard drive.

All of this is to show that Brady destroying his cell phone would have been a) useless because it's not like the NFL could come into his house and grab it b) useless because all he really had to do is delete the text messages and c) if there were emails they could be easily recovered from numerous servers.

I call BS on this story, because Brady's lawyers would have surely told him all of this right away.

ANGR89 · Jul 28, 2015

Again....would you give your phone to this guy,?

FrodoBagginz · Jul 28, 2015

Brady destroying his phone.....the new Patriots video taped team practices.

This whole thing is making me sick to my stomach.

Rob0729 · Jul 28, 2015

Sounds like Stephen A Smith is going all in with his silliness today:

I'm not finished yet. I'll elaborate on all of this news on the Stephen A. Smith Show SiriusXM @MadDogRadio Channel 85, 1-3pm EST Today.

https://twitter.com/stephenasmith/status/626043324751867904

Sicilian · Jul 28, 2015

ANGR89 said:
Again....would you give your phone to this guy,? View attachment 9759

I don't think I'd let him borrow my pen.

VrabelJr · Jul 28, 2015

As someone who works in software, anything that was ever on your phone and sent to another person is never destroyed. If the NFL really wanted Brady's cell phone data and felt it was important to their investigation they could subpoena Brady's cellular carrier and get it. Maybe if this case went to a real court instead of the NFL's Fantasy Court that is exactly what will happen. Until then, as a logical human being, this entire episode is frustrating and sad.

Patriot Missile · Jul 28, 2015

Prediction. This is one of the NFLs last smears before upholding the 4 game suspension. Get the public all sauced up on hatred and drop the punishment.

KDPPatsfan85 · Jul 28, 2015

Stephen A. Smith must still be mad that Brady didn't visit with Obummer.

KenSims · Jul 28, 2015

Look, I'm not saying you're not generally correct, but you keep using "RAM" on servers - which is not what is used to store anything (and they're not stored on servers anyway - they're stored on disk/tape outside of the "server"). If you want to present a technical argument, you may want to brush up on that a bit.

FreeTedWilliams said:
two different worlds when you are talking about text messageses versus emails.

Any email is stored on upwards of ten servers, so finding a deleted email is pretty easy (unless your the head of the IRS). An email is a message sent from a service (i.e. yahoo, Microsoft, google) through to another service an to multiple platforms, each one of those platforms saves a copy of it, so it is very easy to retrieve a deleted email.

text messages are very different, they are only on the two phones and the carriers server. If both phones are on the same carrier, it is even harder to find them once they are deleted. imessage (texts between two iphone users) are impossible to retrieve once they are removed from the phones. In fact they do not even appear on court ordered wire taps.

the carrier only dedicates a minimal amount of RAM for texts, and usually within two to three days, the text data is overwritten on the servers hard drive.

All of this is to show that Brady destroying his cell phone would have been a) useless because it's not like the NFL could come into his house and grab it b) useless because all he really had to do is delete the text messages and c) if there were emails they could be easily recovered from numerous servers.

I call BS on this story, because Brady's lawyers would have surely told him all of this right away.

Clonamery · Jul 28, 2015

Rob0729 said:
Sounds like Stephen A Smith is going all in with his silliness today:

https://twitter.com/stephenasmith/status/626043324751867904

I'm guessing Troy Vincent is his source. Or the meth addict on the corner.

RobertWeathers · Jul 28, 2015

Clonamery said:
I'm guessing Troy Vincent is his source.

That's exactly what I think.

SVN · Jul 28, 2015

Rob0729 said:
Here other thing Stephen A Smith said:

The League wants Brady to take this to court because they are confident that they will win (seems unlikely IMHO)

Kraft gave in because there is language in the Spygate punishment that if the Pats were caught cheating again, the League would ban Belichick. He gave in to protect Belichick.

Teh whole media witchhunt was all about to get BB. Even when the news broke these people wanted bb banned. When things turned to brady, these guys become confused. But all along this has been about getting BB hence bs stuff like this.

JackBauer · Jul 28, 2015

I would say there's next to no chance that this is true. The notion that Brady destroyed his cell phone and this is the first we're hearing about it seems unbelievable in the literal sense. Especially since it's coming from a clown like Stephen A. rather than actual legit reporters with real sources like Schefter.

Rob0729 · Jul 28, 2015

Patriot Missile said:
Prediction. This is one of the NFLs last smears before upholding the 4 game suspension. Get the public all sauced up on hatred and drop the punishment.

I think this is a counter to the owners pressuring Goodell's decision rumors. And they must have figured that Stephen A Smith would be the only one who would run with such a ridiculous story.

Rob0729 · Jul 28, 2015

#Patriots source on report Tom Brady destroyed his cell phone: "As far as I know, that didn't happen. Today was the first I heard of that."

https://twitter.com/CharlesRobinson/status/626051004983824385

It's good that the NFL is way too ethical to ever leak wild info in an attempt to smear a player just prior to a controversial decision

https://twitter.com/DanWetzel/status/626048638293311489

SVN · Jul 28, 2015

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...rs-doesnt-know-tom-brady-destroyed-his-phone/

The part about Brady destroying his cell phone — the part that Smith acknowledges he doesn’t “know” — just sounds silly. Brady has already refused to hand over his phone to the Ted Wells investigation. It’s not like Wells has the power to send the cops into Brady’s house to execute a search warrant and seize his phone. Why would Brady need to destroy it? And even if Brady did destroy his physical phone, that wouldn’t make the records of any texts or calls to the Patriots’ ball boys disappear. The “report” doesn’t make a lot of sense, and if the “reporter” “hears” something like that, he needs to express more skepticism and ask his “source” to clarify where this “information” is coming from.

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